Thread 21 TTC #1 - The one where all our cycles went haywire but we DID NOT GIVE UP

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Calling all clomid-ers, OPK-ers, temp-ers and anyone else on the TTC Bus.

We are long past cervix prodding (in fact we know where it is at any given time just by closing our eyes) and we have ditched the Gregorian calendar in favour of the TTC Cycle Day calendar. We don't do baby dust, or baby-dancing, we just keep legs spread and fingers crossed (LSFX) We love a baby bomb from a prior bus-mate, but if we get told to 'just relax and enjoy it' ONE MORE TIME you will get a punch in the face. You get kwick-cake if you behave, and talked down from the ledge when you need it.

Hop on board, post your stats and prepare to be dazzled by the wealth of TTC knowledge we long-timeys have to share....

Hey wanting I'm feeling okay, had an awful migraine just before bed last night but not much else, quite gassy too we've looked at getting an early scan too but won't be 7 weeks till 27th Dec so not quite in time for Christmas. We fly to New York on 6th January so I'm praying I don't get bad sickness!!

Hey everyone. Have enjoyed doing a MN catch up this morning!

kwik I am so sorry that this round wasn't successful. I've been thinking of you and know that you will get there soon. Your PMA is an inspiration for me and I use your mantras to get through the tougher times.

alexia any sign of that temp rise yet? Hope you've been maximising your dtd action in the meantime!

EJ I love your use of the word pilchard in your post - it made me laugh! What a thoughtless woman. Sign me up for a t-shirt too.

harriet has AF shown up yet? An OPK is not as sensitive as a normal hpt so it wouldn't necessarily show up on one of those yet if you were pregnant. You didn't want to be up duffed yet did you(?) so FX AF does come for you! I'm also on b vits for the first time and they seem to be lengthening my cycle so far. Touch wood!

gee lovely to hear from you. Chilled cycle sounds perfect at this stage. Not temping must be liberating! Please do keep us updated with how you're doing when you can. FX this is the lucky one.

moose that sounds like a really anxious time. I'm glad there are good tests out there so that you can be as informed as possible. Hope the waiting isn't too tough for you and your OH.

I have been trying to not stress out in the tww. I have been completely unsuccessful. My aim this cycle was to lengthen my LP from 8 days by taking Vit b complex. AF was due yesterday and I had a temp drop so thought I was out. Kept strong while I was at a family do yesterday although kept rushing to the toilet to check whether she had arrived. Temp is up a little this morning so potentially (FX) she won't come today either. Don't want to jinx it though. If I could get through to tomorrow I would have gone up to a 10 day LP. It's stressing me out though this constant waiting! Going for a sunny walk today to clear my head.

jam how's the tww going for you? How many dpo are you?

AF due dates are so nerve wracking, hope she stays well away music

I'm 8 DPO today and got all my usual PMS - sore boobs, emotional, anxious, racing heart (does anyone else get that?). If anything had happened it should be implanting around now - did any of the grads feel anything around implantation?

Couldn't sleep for worrying last night. I really fear we will need IVF and will have to wait months and months. DH is still on booze and coffee so I don't see how his morphology will improve. Also worried that stress might be preventing it - I am quite highly strung and often feel anxious.

1 week to go! I hate the TWW!

Harriet the first cycle I took b6 I did get a mega long cycle. I'm usually 27-28 days but had a 36 that time, but it has happened since apart from even I really hammered the luteal lengthening diet and I got a 31 day one.

london I got bad wind - lots of tummy gurgles and felt like I had a bug, tummy ache etc. Then had period like symptoms - back ache and sore boobs mainly. Didn't poas until I was 3 days overdue as I was so worried about getting a bfn after feeling so grim.

Don't worry about stress, you'll only stress yourself out more. Fx for you and all others in the 2 ww

Sorry about the migraine mrs can you take anything? I suffer too, was told I can take paracetamol if really bad (not that that will do anything! ) my Dr had bad migraines during pregnancy and she took paracetamol and codine. She said if it gets too much to go back to Dr and they can prescribe. Have you been to Dr yet? How far gone are you? I'm 4+6 today.

inspector what's the difference between having polycystic ovaries and PCOS??

music yes you're right - being upduffed now not part of plan as DH has career-making work trip next summer. I'd still be happy if I was though!!!

Still no AF but honestly don't feel pregnant (I had a mc at 7 weeks aged 24 and had horrendous symptoms before AF was due - really sore boobs, nausea and cramps) so I think I'd know if I was this time.

It can only be the flipping B6! winging interesting you had the same - how much were you taking again? And did you carry on taking it but they went back to more normal lengths or did you stop?

Penguin! Also lovely to see you great news on your tubes. I wonder if they can try clomid or similar to help you ovulate? Wishing you all the very best with it, and hope you do continue to pop in and see us

Moose I wouldn't be able to avoid temptation either. Got everything crossed for Mon/Tues and sending positive vibes that all is well with little bub.

Inspector nice to see you back lovely, and thank you for such kind words I'm doing okay now, happy to be on meds and ovulating. It's a relief! I second Jam, I think Clomid or Femara with a trigger shot (to help release the egg(s) if they're being stubborn) would work wonders for you. I think you said DH's sperm was good before so IUI with Clomid & trigger would be something good to try before IVF as well. I think there are some great options out there for you and you will get your baby! Best of luck with your relaxed cycle and do pop back whenever you feel up to it

Music that's fab news your LP is longer this cycle, I'm so pleased for you! You never know the dip yesterday could be implantation! Enjoy your walk and let us know how it goes lovely. I had a temp rise this morning finally! (see chart). We didn't dtd loads but I think we have it covered with 2 BDs the nights before O. Pretty sure I ovulated yesterday afternoon as I had O pain and a tiny bit of spotting when I wiped about 6.30pm.

Jam if you do need IVF you will get through it together, and you will get your baby (or twins!). I know it's not the way you wanted it but it will all be so worth it in the end. Wishing you so much luck in this tww As for symptoms I'm always really nauseous. Everyone's different though! Some don't feel anything until 6 weeks pregnant etc.

Harriet are you going to test? It's probably the vit B but I'd have to test sorry!

Thinking of you Kwick

sk1pper it is all to do with smoke & mirrors (my PMA)... have been feeling low but you know what I am NOT ready to give up hope yet as AF arrived today, tomorrow I will and see consultant- but hopefully can start IVF this cycle.

Thanks to everyone for such nice messages - I have not been AWOL on purpose just been very busy!

geeup thanks for grapefruit juice reminder

Amazeballs tips fxskip - fanks!!

sk1pper this is such good news!!! Your Dr souds ace!!!

Okay my dears I am out of time again - I still have loads to catch up on!!!

Afternoon all :)

I'm doing well Wanting, thanks - no further symptoms, boobs a little less tender now and gassiness has subsided. I'd be worried but had a really strong clear line on the test I took this morning, which calmed me down. Mostly just a bit tired, really - and head spinning now on what I do about work, and tests and such.

Keeping fingers crossed for you Moose and thanks for the advice on the Harmony test. I'm going to the doctor on Thursday and I'll ask her then about it I think ... I'll be 38 when I give birth too (assuming this sticks) and I feel for you. So hope it's good news from your scan - it's a lot of money but the peace of mind it sounds like it could buy would be so worth it.

Heya Penguin! I hear you on needing to withdraw. I had to as well as if I was camped on here every moment of the day TTC was always front and centre in my mind and I couldn't ever properly relax.

Jam - no implantation symptoms for me, though I had reflexology pretty much on the day I would have implanted, I think. No clue if that made a difference but it relaxed me. I just had what felt like AF symptoms - mostly tender boobs - but without any of my usual AF cramps. I guess I was emotional as well (hence my rather mournful post the day before I found out I was pregnant) but there were no neon lights for me. I was just carrying on with business as usual. Can you book yourself a massage, or a spa day or something to help you relax, maybe? I just had to distract myself all the time.

I hope the best for you for your next round of IVF kwick - so sorry it didn't take this time but it will!

Jam I didn't have any implantation symptoms. look after yourself.

i'm 7dpo. no symptoms at all.

Sorry about AF wing

That is lovely news about starky's boy... although surely his name is "cub" Alexia

jam sorry about your H&H moment.... recently all baby contact has been with them screaming their heads off which certainly makes it easier.
Great photo BTW - thanks for sharing

Sorry pug

I am very lucky - I am on 3 MN TTC threads and all 3 are brimming with lovely supportive ladies

Keeping my fingers crossed for Harmony results

I try to think that stress plays no part in all this but if it does it is no surprise that the last IUI did not work. It has been a shit-shit-shitty time at work recently.

fxskip that was an amazeballs rejoiner - well done!!

Inspector and any others with PCOS please take a look at www.inofolic.co.uk - I have been taking for about a month now - no side effects.

harriet poly-cystic means you have cysts on your ovaries; PCOS means you alao have one or more of the symptoms - here are mine:

• weight gain

-insomnia

• hair where you never had it before
• dry eyes
• fatigue
• difficulty in TTC

-mood changes Others include

• irregular periods
• skin problems
• thinning scalp hair
• depression

Given my diabolical week at work and devastating BFN on Friday I have actually had quite a nice weekend.
I actually let myself drink a glass of Cava (it was my SIL birthday) I am back on the wagon again now.
I also ordered carpet and laminate for communal hall - so sick of state of it have decided to bite the bullet and pay to get it redecorated.
I also had a bit of a Superdrug splurge and got great excitement from my beauty advent.
AF kind of came but not in usual tidal wave way... after months of not taking my usual painkillers though (as I read small print over a year ago and a possible side effect is infertiity... wish I had bothered to read in 1995 when I first started to take) because I just cannot handle the pain this time (paracetamol does not even take the edge off).

Have loads to catch up on!
💐 For you quick sending you good vibes for your next round.

Had a lovely weekend at a Christmas fayre and putting tree 🌲 up but have had a wobble this weekend again.

Am just so snappy and miserable all the time. Also had MIL say that SIL had asked about if we were thinking about starting a family. She then went on to say about how SIL sister got pregnant on cycle 2 after coming off the pill.
MIL Has no idea we are TTC. I nearly fell apart when she said this.

Did have a moment of clarity last nigh though when I couldn't sleep. DH and I had been saving for like 4 years before we moved in together and brought a house. We had been together like 9 years and had never lived together . I never thought we would move in but we did eventually. My point is that it did happen eventually. Which I am clinging onto with TTC.

miw

I am borrowing my Dad's car (its bigger) whilst he can't drive. My mum was trying to convince me to take their spare booster seat with it !! was kinda speechless !

We have also had DB asking if we want their old baby stuff as they don't want anymore. Its hard, but try not to take it personally.

Hep that's ridiculous of your family! Do they know anything about you ttc? Hope you can let it wash over you as much as possible. Hope the tww is going okay for you.

Alexia that looks like a great temp jump! I definitely think you have it covered with your dtd. And O spotting is kind of exciting - it's like your egg was raring to go!

Harriet I second advice to poas to check for sure!

No AF here yet. Now on 11dpo which is pretty exciting for me. Although I hate that I have to get right through to tomorrow before I can say I have had 11 days in my LP! Definitely an improvement on 8 already though. Can't believe b vits work so fast?! No symptoms to indicate it might be anything more exciting though. Boobs are completely normal. My face is breaking out but sadly that is normal for me!

Hep

On way to see consultant to discuss next steps...
I had a really wierd dream last night where I was getting back together with old boyfriend (I really do not want that to happen - he is a nasty piece of work) and was explaining to him it was all very well but I might have another man's child due to magic potion... ????

I'm raging at myself. Just poas, I'm 8dpo. Obviously bfn. So annoyed I did it. I told myself I'd wait until Thursday at least. Ugh. Someone slap me.

I do not want to slap you Tenner I have been there too. The good news you are still in with a chance - ok?

Consultant has gone off to confer about my case....

Consultant conferred with head honcho - medicated IUI it is!!!

Sorry your families are being so insensitive miw hep those comments would really upset me too

Great news on your LP music

Go easy on yourself tenner sometimes you just have to poas

Kwick ooh great you know your next steps, do you have this with your next egg?

kwick you will have to explain... what medication? follicle stimulation ?
(sounds good news though?)

Sorry Hep I was not clear - this will be a follicle stimulated cycle - I will take (ie stab myself) hormones on alternate days from day 3. As per usual they will monitor growth through up the fanjo scans & likely take bloods to monitor LH levels (as injections can interfere with opks). This will be my second medicated IUI cycle. My 7th IUI cycle in total... 9th attempt if I count IVF...
The thing is, the older I get (I am now 42) the more the odds equal for IUI and IVF....
The good thing with this cycle is that I will be off for most of 2ww - and hopefully in an environment where I can keep stress levels low and cosseting high
I only have one vial left of magic potion... so if this does not work may try a clinic in Spain.

ooh a pampered tww !
that is good news !

(I tried some pineapple today .... still bleurgh but i ate some. hope your proud ... yeah wrong time of the month and all)