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Good luck Jem! Did you say you would continue acupuncture this month? I'm preserving with a further 2 more sessions, then that's it (if unsuccessful) Just not affordable. Got my next on Wednesday CD16 & 4-5dpo, then I'll do another CD21 or CD23 to help keep progesterone up.

I've got my last acupuncture this weds... Not sure if I will keep going. I think I'll try and claim the money back from work plan first and see how that goes before committing to any more. Too expensive! It has massively helped my stress levels though so I'm pleased with that.

Persevering not preserving

Sounds like you have nailed your dates tee. Really hope this is it for you this cycle.
Mimi you sound so relaxed about it all so well done you, hope it worked. Let us know when you test!! Exciting!!
Jem- agree that the accupuncture is expensive, if I had lots of money I'd try it all! Have to pay lots out on my back as it is.
Busta- thinking of u and hope AF didn't get you.

Well for me my temp was 36.60 this morn, and just when I relax thinking I've ovulated I get shed loads of EWCM today and sensitive nipples so now I'm doubting?! Wasn't just a small amount - loads of it which I haven't had any this cycle. I was so sure I ovulated with the temp spike and higher range temps so to cover myself in going to jump the "h" later! Dtd yesterday too. Keeping up the temps this cycle now and will do an opk tomorrow.

Footy I think for me cm would be the last factor I'd consider to point me to ovulation? I think sometimes it can be late 'coming down' if you know what I mean. Like when we get brown blood because it's old? Also, I find that leftover swimmers are very much like ewcm, I often have problems telling the difference! Do you have any opks lying around to confirm?

Obvs worth DTD either way!!

Tried an opk today, was dark but not darker than test line.? Not had a positive yet just dark? But I mentioned before the test stops are different make and much thinker. First time ever not had a positive. Temp def rose as u saw from chart. Am confused.. ? Maybe you are right tee, maybe late coming down. Going to try dtd tonight and see what temp does in the morn..

Thanks.. Loving that I can bounce these doubts on you girls! X

Took my first Clomid just now. Been having mixed feelings about it. And if this cycle BFN, do I carry on taking Clomid or just try naturally, unmediated and no IUI? Or do I take Clomid but no IUI? I think I'm over analyzing it all. And still debating whether to tell dad or not. DH will be flying over next weekend and I hope IUI will be on Saturday/Sunday, so I'm not completely alone. He then is flying home on Monday. But if IUI scheduled past next weekend, I've got nobody with me. I'm already having rubbish time as in a way dreading going home as memories of mum are hitting me hard. Big sigh. Trying to stay stress free. Got my acupuncture on Tuesday, and I agree, it is very expensive!
Jem, is your acupuncture fertility related? Or just general one? How do you find it?

Did this happen last month footy? It sounds as though your body has a few attempts at ovulating each cycle? You can ovulate more than once I think. Could it be the clomid having this affect?

Hugs for you Russ it sounds as though you've got an awful lot on your mind. Take one step at a time, focus on relaxation. Can you ask a doctor or nurse about the clomid question? Fx iui will be whilst your DH is with you. Re acupuncture - I am doing it for fertility reasons but to be honest I think it's just been good for relaxation and reducing anxiety. Not sure about specific fertility benefit - he's not really explained any of this?!

Jem, I think you are right. I seem to get a temp spike for a few days then it drops then goes back up? Whether or not it's the clomid I don't know. I know that if your ovaries are overstimulated this can happen. That's why so common for twins I guess on clomid? Having pains again today and temp dropped to coverline this morning.
Why can't this be text book??!!! Grrr

DH was not in the mood last night. Getting stressed out enough with it all and DH not supplying the goods at the right time is too much to take. Not sure if I've ovulated or not now.? Will see if temp goes back up tomorrow.

Russ- sorry I can't help as I only gave clomid without any other options so I don't know what would be best. I'm not overly enthusiastic with the clomid tbh, as its started to mess my cycles up and having cramps, pains and hot flushes all through this cycle so far it's not pleasant.
Hope you get the advice you need and agree with Jem that I think u need to take one step at a time otherwise you will get really stressed and confused with it all.

It must be frustrating footy, I think all you can do is keep up the DTD and hope that at least one egg catches. Hope your oh is game.

I had a a bit of an epiphany at the weekend. We had a lovely chilled time, went out for brunch with cocktails, a long walk, cooked a lovely meal watched a film etc etc and I thought when a baby comes it'll be amazing but all this will change and there's no going back - so I'm going to try and enjoy a bit more this time we have just as a couple.

Totally Jem! Enjoy it now! You can still do lovely things when baby is here, but you do miss the flexibility and chilled-ness that comes with no kids! We miss lie-ins the most x

Russ it's so hard not to over analyse things. I do the same, wondering about whether I keep up aspirin, what DTD pattern is best, determining ovulation. I hate overthinking like this, but when you want something so badly, it's impossible not too isn't it?
I really don't know anything about clomid or IUI at this stage, but all I can advise is go with your gut instinct and take things one step at a time. I hope you can figure out a path that you're comfortable with. Do you have a doctor or gyne that can support you through these decisions?

Oh God Footy what a bloody nightmare. It's hard enough timing DTD when you have a rough idea of OD... Sounds to me like you might be better if DTD every other day throughout the month if you and DH can manage it?!

Tee I'm so stressing now. So difficult to get DH on board with dtd frequent. He's just always tired. Absolutely pants! I'll do my best.

Really tired today, combination of swimming and stress maybe?! Opk was darkish but by no means positive. So I'm even more confused.

Thank you Footy and Tee. I don't have any docs or gene in here as I've been doing it all in Riga clinic. After they removed polyps, I stayed with them and haven't re-establish my contact with the London City fertility clinic. But I'm going to when I'm back. But because I had my results/consultation with them in June 2014, they're now expired, and I have to start all over again. So had another painful GP appointment, just to get a referral for blood tests! And a CD21 blood test which I now got! DH is having blood tests done tomorrow. Once I've done my IUI in Riga, I come back home and if /when needed I'll go to to Londin clinic. My GP practice is so useless, I never met these useless and uncaring doctors ever in my life! And I'm still waiting for a letter which apparently I meant to receive a week ago! Speechless!

Hi all. Five weeks today. Symptoms: tender boobs, waves of nausea at times but otherwise OK. Dh asked me to do another test which I did and it was darker.

Russ, that all sounds so stressful! Glad you have got your bloods sorted at least.

Footy, I'd Dh had to persuade me to dtd them I think we'd not be successful as I'm always tired. But as it's me that wants this baby the most (though he is on board) I've persuaded myself into it.

Tee, I know I miss lie ins, though actually I'm really lucky as Dh gets up naturally about 8 and the kids usually get up and play until he gets up so I got more than before when they were younger.

I'm exhausted, stopped to be watching stranger things but I'm off to bed instead. Night night.

Hi All!

Sorry you are feeling a bit stressed Russ - I have not discussed ttc with my of my family, in fact I have deflected any suggestions as I don't want them to know bout my heartaches (I have a difficult family dynamic, hence why I live in the UK).

Congrats Nim! Must be terribly exciting to see darker lines!!

Well the tww is flying! Work is so busy! Off to Famingoland on a trip today! I avoid rollercoasters, but I might be tempted because it might be awhile before I can go on em! CD 31 8 dpo. Going to test Saturday (12 dpo). Not long yet at all!

Glad to hear all going well nim

Fingers crossed kate enjoy flamingoland!

CD7 here and nothing to report, no DTD yet ooops BUT I am waiting for DH to visit the Create fertility centre and get his sperm analysis done - you have to abstain for a few days before. I told him he needs to go today or tomorrow! We need to crack on! I won't ovulate until Wednesday or Thursday next week so we have got time.

In other news I did my first ceramics class last night I signed up a few months ago after years of thinking about it. Ttc sadness was the trigger to make me book it! It was wonderful - three hours of clay, meeting new people, being creative. Here are my pinch pots - yet to be glazed and fired!

Wow jem that's impressive.at least you have something to keep your mind off of ttc.

Stupid witch got me .cd2 and realized relaxing also doesn't work .am so tired tired

Waves ladies

Hi all,

Jem- love those pots! Hopefully the clay class might help distract you when needed. Sounds fun.

Kate- I love rollercoasters, enjoy!! Am I right in thinking you are Canadian? My DH wants to move there one day..

So as frustrations go.. I'm utterly frustrated and annoyed! Today my temp fell even lower 36.21 (usual just after AF temp) which suggests I haven't ovulated. Gutted . Opks neg today. Not sure what is happening? Tee, you are right I think I'm going to have to dtd frequently incase I do ovulate later. Managed yesterday and the before.. Hoping the dip means I could ovulate today but all the days I've had cramps.. Typically today nothing! Not even a twinge. No EWCM either today ? Might have to call the gyne man to see what he suggests. Looking at my chart the temps are quite low compared to the first 2 months on clomid where I def ovulated. Worrying thoughts is if I haven't ovulated then what was all that pain last week? Worried something is blocked.

Nim- glad u got a stronger positive. You can start getting excited now. DH been a bit better last two nights so will wait and see if he can keep up the good work.
Tbh I'm exhausted too all this trying.. Just want to achieve the goal so I can relax a bit.

Sorry it wasn't your month mimi definitely keep up the relaxation - it's good for you regardless. Each month there is another chance. Look after yourself and don't give up.

footy how confusing and frustrating! If you can ask your gynae I would. Glad to hear your DH is cooperating.

Oh and I managed to get DH an appointment today , so we will know later today hopefully that his swimmers are all good. Will hopefully be one less thing to worry about!