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Haha at your DH footy hope you get another clear temp rise in the morning to confirm O

Oh dear I feel very low about it all this week. Just can't help but fear we will need intervention. Can't bear the thought of going down that route. I feel like it's dawning on me over again that we've been trying 10 months with nothing. This whole year spent in a fog of ttc

Hope our madness didn't scare off newyork!!

Russ it all sounds like things are REALLY positive for you!!!! I am so pleased for you and how well those follies are sounding!

Cd 3 here. Bleeding is light, if not merely spotting. Work has gone to hell in a handbasket. Applied for new job, so now I have to stop wanting it! Oh and I want a baby and to start a family... I never was one to make life easy for myself!

Hurrah for job application kate

Is your temp still up footy? Fx

Any signs or symptoms yet tee?

We DTD again last night. DH was still a bit on edge, I'm worried about him getting a mental block about it. We were fine last night though.

Nothing going on here today! 5 days to go!
DS's 4th birthday today! Wouldn't have believed at the start of this that he may even turn 5 without a younger sibling. So much of a bigger gap than I'd hoped for, although I know there are pros to this. Hope you're feeling less down Jem, well done with keeping up DTD! Any sign of a positive opk? You were thinking OD likely tomorrow right? x

Morning friends, yes the temp went up further to 36.60 this morning. Had a few cramps in the night.
So I'm hoping it will continue to stay high.

Kate- glad u applied for job, sorry to hear your current position is driving u nuts.
Tee, feeling tired as now got to wait another 2w if I've just ovulated. We didn't dtd last night but did the night before so fingers crossed. Happy birthday to little Tee! :) are you baking a cake? X
Jem-I feel like that too - bit deflated. My DH would not even consider other options. So if we can't that's it. Feeling stressed out today, bit of a dingdong with DH over pulling the duvet off and didn't sleep well. Hoping the temp rise is just not down to that
Hope u get a good run up of dtd before you O.

Great news on the temp front Footy, but get the frustration of starting 2ww again! Better to start from this point than CD1 with Clomid tho eh?? Fingers crossed you nailed this one.
My sister is making his cake. My house is still in bits with all the building work. Another thing in my life taking way longer than expected! Stress stress and more stress!!

Happy birthday to little tee.how nice of your sister to make a cake,enjoy!!

I'm impressed with your energy jem .good on your oh.plan on jumping dh tonight

Good luck starting the marathon again kate and hope you get the job and the bfp.

Good news on the temp rise foot,here goes the tww.really hope that we all get upduffed.

Haha I'm not scared off! :).

My gynae appt went ok, they did an sit test which they said was standard and having a internal scan of my tubes next week. They said dp should call for a sperm analysis appt.

Now this is going to sound very insane but here goes! Ha! I've been quite insecure lately, I don't know why but I've put about a stone on, I'm not overweight but don't feel great and I'm so happy with my dp keep wondering if it's too good to be true! All I could think when they said sperm analysis was that they will put dp in a little room with dirty magazines and he is going to look st other women in those magazines to produce his sample and I don't want him being aroused by other women!

Am I mad?! I feel very silly typing that!

Hi newyork, can understand you feeling that way as think I'd be the same! I suppose if it has to be done for a good cause it has to be. I suppose u could look at the positive and it's one day off u don't need to release his swimmers gearing up to ovulation. Or just an idea.. Maybe take some saucy pics of yourself in the buff and make your own little comic (for his eyes only)! Give him your body to focus on.
Think it's one of those situations where u need to trust him and his thoughts and try and think of something else.

newyork I know what you mean. My DH just had his SA. He said there was "average porn" available on tv and magazine. He also has some rude pics of me on his phone.

To be honest I couldn't give a stuff what he looked at. At the end of the day, novelty is sexy and when you've been together a long time, well novelty does wear off! We love having sex don't get me wrong. But to jizz in a cup, if he looks at some pics of other women to get there I don't find this offensive. It's more human nature to hold responsible I think!

That's just me though

Just got a lovely strong shiny happy positive OPK. Very glad DH stayed home ...

Horrible day of work. DH comes home from a night away to tell me my SIL is 8 weeks gone (accident) and that when I recently went out to dinner with my in-laws (for FIL's bday), MIL thought we were going to make an announcement... SIL has a 12 year old and a 9 yo. She's my age. And it was an accident.

I cried. A lot. And then I felt like a horrible person for feeling so jealous and selfish.

cd 4. Sexathon starts next week as I tend to ov late and we don't want to peak too early and wear ourselves (DH) out!

Good good Jem. Jump on it

Ah man I'm still worried ive not ovulated. Had some cramps all day! The opk today was still quite dark. Anyone else had a dark opk after ovulation? It's almost same colour as the test line but not darker like it was 2days ago. Also I'm stupid I know.. But randomly took my temp this afternoon (I can hear u thinking I'm mad) and it was lower than my temp as soon as I woke up?!?! So now been sitting wondering if it's happened or not. Grrrr

Sorry Kate, posted at same time.
That really sucks and I totally get it why u feel upset. I'm so sorry.. Hope DH is supportive for you.
Chin up girl, it will happen xx

Hugs kate it stings to hear of people close to you falling - that doesn't make you a bad person. Really hope you get your bfp soon and your little ones will be cousins close in age

footy sorry I have no idea about temping I do sometimes still cramp post ovulation though. I think you should get your bloods done so that you absolutely know one way or the other

DH text me on my way home this evening saying let's DTD before dinner. I've created a monster!

Feeling sorry for myself and selfish, because if I do fall in the next year or so, my baby will be an afterthought of the wider family. My parents (and family) all live 7000 miles away. So my in-laws are my closest family (and we get on well), but their daughter will have just had the baby.... so mine will be overlooked. I know that is stupid. In fact, I can't even believe that I think that and that I wrote it out... but that doesn't stop it from being a fear...

Oh love. I think it's completely natural to think these things when you are hurting and you want it so much yourself. It must be hard being so far from your own family too. I think when your baby comes you won't care about any of that all that will matter is having it in your arms. And I'm sure your in laws will adore it regardless of other grandchildren around xx

I agree with Jem, think that feeling of holding your own baby will outweigh any thought to how everyone will be. You will get your bundle of joy! Think if it's their 3rd child too your MIL will be more excited with your first anyway.

Jem- you have got your man hungry for your love!! Good for u. X

Hey everybody,
Newyorklover, take a little video of yourself for him to watch when he's in the room?! It's horrible to feel insecure. I don't really feel that way about porn tho tbh, it's just a means to an ends! I really don't think they enjoy the experience overall, the material is just a minor prompt to get them going and get it over with!
Kate that's tough and your feelings are natural. I bet you'll feel different when your babies are born though. My DH is an only child, and my DS is the youngest in their family after DH! No cousins or even 2nd cousins. Everything is soooo focused on him, I'd love there to be another little one around to shift the focus a bit!
Footy, this is bonkers, you poor thing being messed about by Mother Nature! Having said that I would dismiss the temp until the morning, but I do understand it troubling you. I do get cramps after OD.

Go on MrJem!! Perfect after your strong opk!! Whoop whoop here comes the conga train to upduff town!!

Good point from footy about it being your first kate - there will be extra fuss for baby no 1 for you guys I'm sure.

Haven't got as much ovulation pain this month. Had a blazing positive yesterday so I'm thinking egg will be making her appearance today. I feel very tuned into my tummy region come along!

Temp dropped a bit but ff has drawn another line of ovulation. I'm not feeling it tbh. Opk today was positive, i have cramps and felt a flush last night so I really don't think it's happened AGAIN!
Grrrr. Really annoyed. Fell out with DH so nothing will happen as he avoids intimacy for ages. Fed up of it.

Just want to end this cycle..

Sending hugs your way foot hope some magic is happening behind your back and a baby is in the making already.

Fx for you jem and I think after lots of work you and mr jem deserve your bfp this time.

How was the little chaps birthday tee?hope he enjoyed his day.

kate don't stress hun.those grandparents have enough love for all the babies.my mom has 16 and she treats each one as if they were the only one.

Getting ewcm so more dtd tonight .hope we catch that mischievous egg lol.

Glad your appointment went well newyork and you got to do what you have to do to get the ball rolling .did you eventually make a movie for your oh or you will just let him see the magi

How are the graduates doing?hope all is well and you need to give some motivation that all this ttc stress is well worth it.

How is everyone else?