Thread 18 TTC#1 We have cats, courgettes AND cake

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Hugh enjoys ISW and his love affair with Doreen. He watches out for skittle tits and weepyitis. Mrs Arseholey Fucknut (Af) shows up when you least want her but brings wine and soft cheese as a consolation prize.

We don't have rules as such but expect to be talked down from the ledge with kind and well meaning but firm words if you get too hysterical. But most importantly don't convince yourself you're pregnant in the tww That is paramount! It messes with your head and makes you crazy crazier

We don't get a lot of baby dust in these here parts. We want a fanny full of determined Doreen, not unicorn farts and gnome tears with extra sparkle. We've been going a while now so the novelty has somewhat worn off and we're slightly battle scarred and bruised in the cervix area.

Post your stats and add your dates. A more lovely, supportive group of ladies you couldn't wish to meet. We've got a few grads sticking around I won't leave and no question is too daft. We have opk experts, cervical mucus management teams and symptom spotters extraudinaire!

nicky his count was 105 million and motility 45% progressive - both good. Yes I think not DTD every single day is better for low count. It's terrifying getting your head around all this but I would rather know what we are up against. I hope you get your bfp and don't have to investigate.

Thanks alexia fx for your oh results. I will check out the fertility friend threads. Only just got my head around female fertility - this male route is a whole new ball game!

Hi all, please can I join? I have been on before but not the best time for me then.
I'm 29, TTC #1, not sure number of cycles but it's been just over 18 months of trying now.
We've recently started tests with GP, I've had day 3 bloods and DH will be doing his SA next week, day 21 bloods booked for me too. At least we're getting somewhere with something!
Good luck to everyone, congrats moose
Oh, I've been a little irregular lately but I think AF is due 12/10

Hi Love - great to have you! Good luck with your tests. It must feel good to be doing something positive to help you towards your BFP.

sk1pper what happened with your temps today? Has it made anything any clearer?

Hi everyone. I was the one having a breakdown a couple of weeks ago when my best friend announced she was pregnant. This carried on for a week and I'm still agitated now (this is due to work though I think, been a stressful week!).
Been using OPKs this month. 2 of the fertility apps I've been using had me down to ovulate 5 days ago and today. I've been using the one predicting today more though so got up this morning all excited to POAS to be disappointed when only one line came up again. I know the apps are only rough but I'm starting to stress now that I'm not ovulating monthly. Do you all ovulate every month?
Saying that I am 99% sure that I did last month as whilst DTD 4 weeks ago my DP was horrified by some EWCM. At the time I just said it was normal but then googling afterwards it showed it was a sign of ovulation. My next question is if/when you have EWCM does it mean your definitely ovulating?

Welcome LoveYou ! I have added you to the list.

Mummy i don't know about EWCM... it depends on the person. I didn't really notice much correlation between EWCM and opk.

I think my hormones are (almost) back to normal ? I have my normal flat , nonsensitive boobs back, and my resting heart rate is back down to 60-63. I think i am going to brave not wearing panty-liners again, as I think i have stopped bleeding again. (touch wood...)

So feeling quite positive.... any way, I have been thinking (dangerous I know , It took me 10 months from stopping the pill to getting pregnant the first time. However 2 months I wasn't having AF (so presumably wasn't ovulating either). Another 2 months I can discount because we failied to dtd during FW. So really we only took 6 cycles/months to conceive .... So if i start ttc in mid october, I'll certainly be pregnant by April and before my 38th birthday in May. Simples . Plus, I am clearly an OPK expert now

please - no one spot any flaws in that logic

mummy no ewcm is your body telling you is preparing to ovulated . But you can not tell for sure you have ovulated based only
On cm . The ontly thing that can confirm ovulation is a rise in your basal body temperature for 3 days in a row . The rise comes from
The production of progesterone after ovulation this is the hormone that the doctors check during a blood test to confirm ovulation

Welcome loveyou !

One thing i forgot to mention that i found intesting.
During my fertility mo at create fertility clinic the doctor took half an hour explaining the ins and outs of conception . He then said that a woman up to the age of 35 usually has 1 in 10 eggs that is viable for pregnancy ( i was shocked by that stat) and this is why they say it ahould take a year to concieve !
He also said that some bodies can identify when a fertilizer egg is no good and prevent it from implanting while other dont and it ends up in miascarriage
I was very suprised by these facts ! Thought i should share :)

Hi loveyou good luck with your tests

mummy EWCM usually appears just before you ovulate, ready to help the sperm up. I usually get it before I get the positive OPK. Why was your partner horrified? Ignore the apps, relax and keep up the OPK and DTD is my advice

hep sounds perfectly logical to me lovely PMA

Couple of days in using preseed and I'm a fan. Definitely helps gets things going more quickly.

Welcome Love

Hep sounds perfect to me! LSFX you're upduffed well before April/your birthday Glad you're feeling positive and getting back to normal.

Mummy unfortunately cervical mucus isn't that reliable. It's possible to have several patches of fertile cervical fluid in the same cycle. Nicky is right, the only way to confirm you're ovulating (other than a blood test) is to chart your BBT where you should see a clear and sustained temp shift after ovulation. Even OPKs aren't 100% reliable. You can catch the LH surge but not go on to ovulate for whatever reason (happened to me this month). If your cycles aren't regular I'd take the App fertile week predictors with a pinch of salt. They're always way off for me, it's best to have sex every 2-3 days to give yourself the best chance if your body is unpredictable. I learnt the hard way and totally missed the FW a lots.

Nicky thanks for sharing!

Jem good to hear you're a fan

Hi LONDON

I've never really paid attention to stuff 'down there' up until now so when this jelly stuff (sorry if tmi) came out of nowhere it did seem a bit strange!!
I need to stop googling, it's got me paranoid I've got PCOS now. Esp because 10 years ago I had to go for a scan as I didn't have a period for 6 months. The scan came up normal but it was mentioned that there was something on the scan indicating that I could have PCOS. No further tests or treatment was actioned though, and when I was 18 I didn't care, I was too bothered about going out every weekend and getting drunk. Then getting caught 3 years later made me think that it was nothing.

Not tmi at all I know what huh mean. Before all this ttc shite I never noticed fertile cm really either. Not it's so unmistakable I wonder how I ever missed it.

Keep calm and carry on DTD is my new mantra!

love - welcome!

music - temps rocketed to 36.87 today, just as alexia said it would, so feel a bit sheepish for freaking out now

nicky - that is really interesting stuff. I hope I'm the former and my body's just rejecting the dodgy eggs. There's no way I'd be as strong as Hep and others have been with dealing with MC.

Great news Sk1pper! Let me know what your next few temps are like :) I still haven't ovulated my body hates me! Temp was only 36.13 today on cd37

Was also meant to say don't feel sheepish at all. It's all so new the first month so it's hard not to freak out over every little thing. I didn't find your concerns silly at all x

Thanks all for the welcome and luck

Thanks music just glad to be doing something now!

Loving the PMA

Thanks alexia, I think if I wasnt struggling to conceive the chart wouldn't have freaked me out so much but I thought i was having somewhat of a eureka moment when I saw the dip. But nope, still no idea what's going on in my body.

CD37 is insane though, surely you must ov soon?

Sk1pper I understand, it's hard not knowing what's up. How long have you been TTC?

Lol yes it's crazy. Really hoping I Ov soon because I'm bored now!

Cycle 14 now. I thought I'd have given birth by now. FML.

Are your long cycles because of the MC you had?

interesting reading about temping. I bought a thermometer but never used it as intend to stir before actually waking up each morning and so wondered if it would actually work?

I've been using OPKs only but realised I won't be able to use my trusteed CB monitor next month as I'm away with work and don't have it with me (OH away too). Even thought you don't start peeing on sticks until day 6+ you have to set it up by day 4. So perhaps I should temp next month instead.

Aww Sk1pper so did I! How naive lol. Yes my cycles and LP are messed up since. I've never had reliable cycles but they were always around 31-38 days with the odd exception here and there, and fluctuated no more than 5-6 days each way (if one month it was 32 it could easily be 36 the next).

purple it's worth a try to see how you get on, especially as you already have a thermometer. If you stir before waking you could set an alarm for a time you know you'll be asleep. To ensure I temp at the same time each day I set my alarm for 6:30am but I don't get up until 7.30am and sometimes later as I work from home. I temp with my eyes closed, thermometer beeps when done and I usually fall back to sleep straight away and check the temp when I wake up. (hope that makes sense!)

LSFX Nicky and Music hows it going?

hope are 3 grads are all well and have a heathy pregnancy.

not sure temping will be for me, I am not a morning person.

Nicky 28/09/2016
Musicgrrl 30/09/2016
sl1ver 01/10/2016
geeup 02/10/2016
sk1pper 05/10/2016
wingit 07/10/2016
kav 09/10/2016
inspector 09/10/2016
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bluebird 11/10/2016
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LoveYou 12/10/2016
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peaches 17/10/2016
Alice 19/10/2016
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Alexia ?
kwick ?
catinthecorner ?
miw ?
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Hep ?
EJ ?
Fishy grad 09/09/2016
ArtOfKnit grad 13/09/2016
moose grad 24/09/16

Congrats moose! It's reassuring to know it is still possibly to get a bpf!

Finally on cd18 I got a peak reading on cb although I did suspect it might have just got fed up and given one anyway so will be checking temps to be sure I ovulated. Temp higher today but I'll see what the next few days bring.

purple I do generally stir a bit before testing but like alexia do it in bed with eyes shut and check reading later. It seems to give relatively ok results. I do keep it in for an extract 30 secs after it beeps though to check def getting the true reading.

I've gone good shopping and bought every luteal lengthening food I can find. We have pinapple, eggs, fatty red meat, kale, brocolli, walnuts. ...an interesting culinary week ahead!

Hi everyone, please can I join in?

I've been lurking for a week or 2 since we started ttc. I've learned so much from these threads and surprised myself by spotting ewcm and feeling some slight twinges that might have even been ov?

AF is not very regular (anywhere from 24-38 days) but mostly around 30-32. Not holding out much hope for this month (OH was poorly) but going to test around 9/10 if the witch hasn't shown up.

jem I agree with Alexia if you decide to go down the treatment route IUI is much less intense than IVF - just learn from ne and get your tubes checked from the off!

Welcome back love!

That's the spirit hep! I will be right there with you

Nicky so when I got a BFP from the first round of IVF and then got a MC they thought that my body had recognised that the embryo was not a-ok. Now with the second round and a bfn, the consultant reckons same thing and my body did not allow for implantation. Very sad but I am doing all I can to improve egg quality (DHEA and co-enzyme q10) so thems the breaks.

Welcome mabel! I am a thread junkie too

Saw Bridget Jones' baby yesterday - much funnier than I thought it would be. Even though fiction has given me hope - she is 43 and with child.
Had a lovely dream - then had to get up at 4am to catch plane - am on my way to Heathrow at fhe mo... (big yawn)

Hep really feel that af is comming any time now :( feel really heavy down below . i hate the two las days before af the most !!
Kwick i really hope next round will be succesfull for you :)!