TTC for 10 months or more, and now we're moving onto thread 4! Ten plussers welcome!

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Thread for anyone TTC for over ten months. Please feel free to join us!

Took the liberty of starting a new thread (with what is obviously a brilliant piece of rhyme!) as I assume everyone else is sleeping peacefully right now :)

Bean, I had a 4 cell on day 3 as well and it made it to hatching blast before I froze it so you really never know. Try to keep positive and don't listen to that embryologist. I've read of plenty of people having success with ones that appeared to be a little behind.

If Lucie's 4 cell made it there is every chance yours will Bean.

I've heard of ladies having 2 in the lead up to transfer Lucie but I just assumed that was because their NK cells were really high. Would be great to know what mine are now but would cost more than the intralipids to find out and take a few weeks.

bean yes what lucie said - you just don’t know what embryos will do, some will speed up - same with people who have morula transferred at day 5, they can and do speed up to implant, despite being supposedly a day behind

lucie the way the Dr explained it was that LH levels rise in response to rising levels of oestrogen: in a short protocol the oestrogen doesn’t start rising until you’ve started stims, so the Cetrotide added in a few days later nips it in the bud (although Dr Sher argues that antagonist protocols are the work of the devil, as they already cause premature luteinisation and anything that isn’t his A/ACP protocol is completely horrific for egg quality!) If your oestrogen levels are already rising well before you start stims, then your LH levels would potentially start to rise earlier, so the antagonist might be needed earlier

This is one way it’s done - ivfmd.net/fertility-treatments/in-vitro-fertilization-ivf/ivf-protocols-for-low-ovarian-reserve/estrogen-primed-luteal-antagonist-protocol/

This cycle my Dr actually had me start the Cetrotide at the same time as the Gonal-F, as my LH was pretty high and my follies were a decent size and he didn’t want anything racing off. Thought that’s nothing to do with oestrogen priming, more just about the general point of the timing of the antagonist

stealth woohoo for stealthini! So, so, so pleased for you.

trixie never heard about weekly intralipids. Even Dr Sher says fortnightly is overkill. The plan for our FET would be IL 3 days before ET - not sure about how many if I get a BFP, but think it’s max 1-2, like lucie said. So sounds like you are right on track. And your follies won’t have vanished (even though I have exactly the same fears - I can be the voice of reason for others, if not myself!!)

Will be thinking of you!

Oh and discussed PGS with the consultant this morning, the plan is to go ahead and biopsy our frosties to batch together with anything we hopefully get this time round, for testing. The lab said that they’ve observed that euploid embryos do generally survive the thaw - it’s usually abnormal ones that don’t. Dr was v hesitant about risking the frosties, so if the lab have the data to convince him otherwise, then I’m happy

bean I think we have well and truly established that your embryologist was a complete bitch face from hell. I know it's good to be realistic but I wouldn't write them off just yet - as the others have said, 4 cells can and do make the grade.

lucie am hoping your hcg is well on its way down and you're right on the border of testing positive on hpts. Really hoping this is the end of it for you.

trixie GOOD LUCK. Your follies won't have disappeared and sounds like you'll get a great crop. Will be keeping fx for you.

Lots of things looking up on this thread today, it's good to see!

I'm due on today, will come on tomorrow (according to my current cramping!) and then my meds turn up on the weekend ready for day 21 - aaaahghhg!

Too excited, don't want to think about it too much... How does everyone keep calm? I literally want the next few weeks to go by and wake up when I know if it's worked or not. I literally can't cope with the waiting.

Thanks banana, yes I know dr shers thoughts about short antagonist protocol but in my experience his a/acp is no better. Perhaps I better not do the priming then as I don't want to mess things up. Was hoping it might get me a couple more follies though.

Banana ooo good to hear about the follicles! Sounds like a good plan going slow and steady with the stims! Eep to Wednesday EC!

Stealth YAY to little bub! So relieved for you - must have been amazing to hear it's little heart beat!

Lucie hope the blood test show differently to the pg tests by Wednesday. Not long to wait until July (although it will feel like an age!).

Everything crossed for you bean and for you too Trixie!

Itsme AF is trying to show her face for me too - eugh can't wait to see the back of her so I can at least keep trying whilst I wait for my letter for IUI - hate waiting for the letter! Eek meds at the weekend - TTC seems to make time go so slowly so the wait is awful!

Waves to everyone else!

Thanks all. I kind of agree but they weren't prepared to try to take them further as they felt they weren't behaving properly. I think after the utter soul destruction of being told nothing had fertilised when we had such a good number of eggs means that I'm already convince it's failed and almost scared to hope.

Hi girls, I'm home!
We had the most amazing break. Completely chilled out, I read 4 books in three days! Only left the hotel to go in to town for our evening meals, which were delish.

Have come home to all the IVF paper work. Haven't read it properly but noticed the pessaries are a different type which have to be done three times a day. I too will be on lunch time fanny bullets

Will catch up with everyone ASAP but for now congratulations to stealth on seeing your babies heartbeat Xx

When is your OTD Bean?

Good luck with the fanny bullets Sammy glad you had a great break.

How are you feeling today Lucie and Stealth.

DDog and I slept through the night and I woke up this morning to no floors needing mopped. He didn't explode on his walk either. I am going to try him with some boiled rice this morning.

Brenna a week today.

Welcome home sammy! Sounds like you had a great break - any good book recommendations?? Woohoo to IVF paperwork but boo to fanjo bullets!

Bean I'm sure this week will drag for you but hang in there. I know it's hard to stay positive and scared of being hopefull but at first they were not fertilised but they still made it back home, they have a fighting chance! I will be hoping for you x

Brenna Sounds like ddog is on the mend, hurrah! What breed is he

Sammy, that sounds like an amazing break! I'm hoping for something similar on my holiday. Only one month to go!

Trixie, good luck for egg collection. Hope it all goes well.

Brenna, glad all is well with ddog. I don't feel too bad physically today but I really don't think the hcg is dropping looking at the pg tests. I don't think I can take much more of this. I'm so fed up. It feels like it's never going to be resolved!

Trixie I've been thinking of you. Hope it's gone ok and you recover really quickly. Hope your little eggs are all nice and mature and having a great time in their test tube with your DHs spermies.

That is our wedding anniversary Bean. I will be thinking of you.

DDog is a hooligan border collie.

Thanks Lucie and Boris
Just back home now. All went well, was so different to my last collection. Wasn't knocked out so DH was able to come in with me. We got 14 eggs, we were expecting more but obviously over the moon with 14. Remember being in loads of discomfort last time too but feel absolutely fine at the moment.
Our fertilisation results weren't great last time and DHs motility was a tiny bit low today (31%) plan had been to do 50/50 ICSI/IVF but they suggested IVF for 9 of them and ICSI for 5. Will get an update tomorrow late morning.

Oh and I have a chart and have to measure my liquid input and output due to the OHSS risk.

Well done Trixie, 14 is brilliant! How many did you get last time? Fingers a crossed for good fertilisation x

We had 16 last time and 1 was immature. Stimmed for longer this time but at a reduced dose from day 6.

Hadn't read back properly before.
Sounds like a perfect break Sammy.
Banana, thanks for the input re intralipids. Great that you can have PGS on your frosties. DH and I may consider that in the future.

Glad you got a good amount Trixie. Best of luck with them.

Amazing news trixie - that's a terrific haul! Hope you can rest up and that the pesky OHSS keeps away

Yay Trixie for all those eggs! And glad you are feeling a lot better than last time! Fingers crossed and sending those eggs and sperm positive fertilisation vibes!!

Trixie - that's brilliant and glad you are feeling ok. Being awake for egg collection must have been very odd! Fingers crossed you get a good fertilisation rate - glad they are doing some icsi.

Banana - with the zyka questions how far back are they going on travel history? I've been to loads of Zyka countries over the years but not for 2 and a half years...

For women they say in the last 28 days

For men they say in the last 6 months - if yes they recommend delaying 28 days if no sign of symptoms, but 6 months if he's shown any symptoms:

Fantastic news Trixie.