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[QueenMolotov]

You can't beat a Freddie Mercury-themed title to get a new thread going

Hello everyone! It's been a busy few days so I haven't posted but have been lurking And what about David Bowie?! He can't die! I've very much admired him and felt strangely deflated to learn of his passing.

Woah, Imps, that's a lot to take in. I think I would push the question and certainty re. whether you had an ectopic pg, as surely this might affect future pregnancies? £12k+ sounds like a hell of a lot of money, but worth it as you will have your baby or a 70% refund. Do you have/can you raise that kind of cash (please don't answer if you don't want to, it's more a consideration for you although I'm sure you've given it much consideration). And even if it doesn't work, there are many children in this world who desperately need loving parents. Adoption would be a wonderful option, I think.

Beedle and keep, I am looking out for the double-whammy pregnancies that you two will soon have. I am double-whammy-brooking!

So far, keep, I have avoided pg testing. It's been hard, but I have resisted and have lived a non-pre-pg life this month However, I don't actually think I am pg because I am on CD25 and have been getting cramps as well as some scanty brown spotting. It's all the usual pre-AF crap. AF is due on Saturday cow

My DF, who is usually very reserved but visibly adores being a DGF (he was a loving and supportive but quite a stern Dad to me He is so lovely and fluffy around our dds), apparently said to my DM 'I do hope Molotov has another baby'. Maybe this was my DM trying to dig a little, but I gave the lady the answer she wanted and told her that were not preventing a pregnancy atm. I said that I wouldn't go through fertility investigations again, but for her to let Dad know he might get another DGC

I just hope we do manage it soon.

Yes you would pay up front. You can pay per cycle or pay for a job lot without the 70% option - both of these options would be much cheaper than the £12k - I guess they charge more because in some cases they will have to give £9k or so back. It's a gamble either way!

Keep deffo sleep all day. I will be booking holiday for both EC and ET - last year I didn't (I worked from home on EC day and popped out of the office for ET) and it was mega stressful. Deffo not doing that this time.

Back again 😊

Fingers firmly crossed for beedle and keeps that your treatments work this cycle.

Imps, re the £12k. What happens if you pay £12k and get a baby from the first attempt. You've paid for 3 go's. Do you get to use those in the future?

Things ok here. I'm on CD12 today. Am on the metformin and took clomid cd2-6. Had a scan on Monday (cd10) and no sign of OHSS. Various follicles on both ovaries, including one on the left 10mm and one on the right 10mm. Consultant said that one of them might become dominant and ovulate, but a possibility that they might both ovulate as they were the same size. Going back to be scanned again on Friday and they said they should be more certain as to when I will ovulate (at the moment he has said at a guess it might happen on Sunday) No idea if they will be able to tell if it will be one or two eggs though as this is all new to me!

Oh and lining was 6.4mm in scan, which I thought was thin but he said that's fine for that stage in my cycle and that it will get thicker, so will be interesting to see what it looks like on Friday. One downside of the clomid is that I am yet to be swamped with obvious fertile cervical mucus, just hope there is some up there by the time I ovulate else this is all for nothing.

Good luck for today keep

Thanks x

loopy my clinic says 8mm minimum for lining, and it grows about 1mm a day on average, so you're fine I'm sure. Sounds like all is going well, how do you feel about twins? ;)

Good luck today Keep! Am heading off for a weekend away with Mr I so poss won't be able to post much - will try to check in later to celebrate your egg haul though!

8
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8 is good keep, if fertilisation goes ok you should have enough for them to continue to blasto. I assume they want you to have 4/5

Anyway I hope you are resting now and not feeling too sore

Thanks beedle they say 3 good ones on day 3 and they'll go to blast. I'm home now, and not too sore
Sperm were OK for ivf :)

Fingers crossed for your 8 eggs keep. Thanks re the info about lining thickness, I hadn't a clue that it could grow that fast! So in theory that should mean by tomorrow I would have a lining of 10.4mm with one or two follicles 18mm. Will be interesting to see if I have textbook growth or whether my body wants to throw up another curveball. Re twins, after so many early losses a massive part of me thinks that even if 2 eggs ovulate this month, I'd be lucky if just 1 implants. If by some miracle two implant and survive and they are both boys then I have no idea how on earth I would cope. My sons are extremely boisterous boys and very smart and incredibly hard work, every doctor/nursery staff/teacher/anyone who comes in contact just looks at me in sympathy and comments how exhausted I must be. They literally do not stop talking from the second they wake. If it were twin girls I might be in with a hope of coping, as they might balance our family and act as a calming effect to the boys. I always wanted 4 children but after what I've gone through in trying to have a third since having ds2 in 2012 and the fact I will be 40 later this year, I know that I only want to go through one more pregnancy. So guess fate will decide how many children end up in our family...

Hope scan goes well tomorrow loopy how many months will they let you take metformin?

Waiting for the fertilisation call is one of the toughest parts isn't it?

keep will they ring today with the progress so far? I hope you're home and resting today as well - preferably without kip bouncing on your tummy!

loopy good luck for today

Keep I think I will be on the metformin long term. They said that PCOS raises risk of diabetes, stroke and cancer amongst other risks to health so presume I'll be on it for life? Only been taking it a couple of weeks but can't believe how it's changed me. I have spent my whole life feeling hungry and I've never lost weight unless I reduce calorie intake to 500-700 per day. For the last 2 weeks I haven't felt hungry, haven't snacked at all or had a single drop of alcohol, sweet tooth has gone, and I've been eating the same old 3 meals a day as I always did and I'm losing weight. Never have I lost weight without starving myself and living off bowls of cauliflower and zillions of low cal cup soups! Looking forward to the scan, I'm a nosy person by nature and intrigued to find out if my body is doing what it's meant to, as have been told with PCOS eggs aren't always released at the right time and can be under or over mature? So am hoping this cycle will be a good one and that maybe just maybe there are 2 follicles that both pop and one has a normal egg in it and there is a baby to end this horrid few years. The rest of me feeling like its never going to happen though.

Gosh what a change loopy, hoping that's a good sign it's working for you

beedle I'm working today, I feel fine. Though have a meeting this morning then will wfh this afternoon I think

Yes, they'll call between 9-11. I asked them to call dh - wimp... Kip did knee me in the stomach yesterday

7/8 fertilised normally? (The last fertilised with 2 sperm) we will hear tomorrow if transfer is Sunday or Tuesday
Go, little embryos, GO!!

That's great news, shame that some of MrK's sperm were a little too eager! though I Think that can be fairly common, with our PGS testing it was only ICSI even if we hadn't needed it, as they need to be sure there is only DNA from one sperm there, and no others that got nearly there.

Go little embryos!!

That's great keep.

Scan wasn't as good as i hoped. Now have 3 follicles on right ovary that have increased, but only one that might have done something which is the one that was 10mm on Monday but today it had only grown to 13mm and he said it was an irregular shape so not looking good and he basically wrote it off as being capable of doing anything. The left ovary has one dominant follicle which was 10mm on Monday and measured 15mm today. Consultant from Monday had said to expect 2mm a day so should be 18mm today. Today's consultant was a different one to Monday, and he said it could be ok as they say 1-2mm a day and that's 1mm a day for 5 days that I've done, but he would have hoped by cd14 that it was a bit bigger. He said lining is good, he said it was 8 something but didn't say what the something was. He wants me to go back for another scan on Monday or Tuesday but not sure if I can. The only time they offered was 8.30 am on Tuesday but it takes a good hour to get to it from here and park and walk to the hospital, and at 8.30 I will be just loading the boys into the car for taking ds1 to school and there is no one else that I can ask to do that for me. So waiting to see if they can come up with something else that I can get there for! Feeling down and like its never going to happen. Bloke today said that he thinks it's a 50:50 chance as whether there will be an egg this month. He said for clomid they look for it to grow to 20mm which if I continue at 1mm a day would be next Wednesday which would be cd 19. They say ovulation is usually 5-10 days after last tablet but sometimes it can be up to 15 days after last tablet, so that would equate to any time between cd11-cd21. Trying to think positive that my body is just working on a slow growth but that it will still produce an egg within the expected timescales.....He said it could grow and release a mature egg but it might stop growing/collapse/shrivel up, and said that next cycle they may need to increase the clomid dose or probably try me on a different drug that is like clomid but doesn't dry up cervical mucus as much, suspect he means letrizole but he didn't state a name. So no twins, no double chance of getting one good egg and one bad egg, at best we have one egg to aim at this month, with barely any mucus 😞

Oh loopy I'm sorry it wasn't better news, but you naturally have long cycles, so maybe you just grow your eggs quickly. I'm confused - are you on metformin and clomid? It must be hard being so far from the clinic. I guess if you don't have another scan you can just smack the rat for the next week or so, or do they really need to see what's going on. I'm v lucky my clinic is 2 miles away
Brooking for you

PS. I'd say make the boys dh's issue for the day - seems this is all on you and he needs to help out

Just took first clexane - apparently it will bruise lots...

Yes keep, am on metformin for PCOS and clomid to speed up cycles so eggs and lining aren't too old and crap hopefully.

There is nothing DH can do to help, he works in London. Leaves here at 6.35am each morning and gets home 8.20pm at the earliest. He has a 1 minute walk to the train station from our front door so we only need/own one car so even if he wasn't at work, if I am using the car to go to the hospital he won't have a car to get to school.

Ps re clexane, most of mine didn't bruise much, but if you don't get them right then you get some massive dark bruises, and they kill when they go into the skin. But I can't help re how to avoid bruises as DH has always done mine for me, can't bring myself to jab them into me!!

Any news keep?

Sorry you didn't get better news loopy hopefully one of those slow growing eggs will be the one. Or maybe they just need to tweak the drugs a bit.

Yes, all 7 still going, grade 1, 4 cells ET on Tuesday

I woke this morning, POAS, and it was positive! OMG, OMG, OMG!!!

I'm feeling very happy and a little nervous (thinking about securing and having another ELCS). Overall though, I am really happy. I am shocked its happened so quickly; somewhat in disbelief but feeling that this baby (!) is meant to be.

At least I know why I've been feeling so fat! I couldn't do my coat up comfortably yesterday. I've been cramping a lot overnight for the last few nights so I've wondered where AF is.

I've told DH. We both think my asthma medication has had an effect because 9m, 2y and now just 3m to conceive is such a difference in ttc times.

I'm seeing my parents today and will tell them, but not telling dds until 12w. Dd2 will faint, I think! Dd1 will be so happy to be the big, big sister

Shit! We have to move house by the summer!