Don't stop us now! We're having such a good time, we're having a ball and BROOKING NO ARGUMENT!

[QueenMolotov]

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Evening lovelies

Cups sorry to hear that your father passed away. It must be an emotionally confusing time. I agree with Mol that funerals are a formality - you will be able to come to terms with his death in private, as I'm sure you did when coming to terms with his absence. Much love to you.

Excellent news re: stabbing Keep! What a great consultant! There shall not be a cyst and AF shall be thwarted once and for all.

Sorry about the BFN Mol - it was just the wrong pee stick you picked up.

No news here really - still oozing old blood. Next appt on Mon. I really really want to avoid taking Mexothrate (or whatever it's called) - I've done a bit more reading and didn't know that it's a drug they use in chemotherapy (although this would be a much smaller dose). I always feel a little uneasy even when taking paracetamol so don.'to like the idea of Mex at all. So fingers bloody well crossed that my body has made good progress naturally.

Oh gosh I'm so blimin' tired, Brookers. I feel I have bitten off a bit more than I can chew this December and have another v busy weekend, along with busy week at work next week, loud and busy Christmas with my family, work again and then busy New Year. I'm almost pleased that we won't be having next IVF round in Jan - I think a few months of rest and relaxation will be ideal before treatment. Am knackered.

Oh imps that does sound like a nasty drug. But it doesn't matter as you won't need it! Sorry to hear you're so tired, though most of it sounds fun I'm sure this Mc is physically draining too, don't do too much. Is there anything you can cutback on? Can you take a few days off sick? I'm surprised you don't have a holiday coming up ;)

I echo what keep has said, Imps. You have been through/are going through so much, you need to make sure that you give yourself a break

Imps, to reassure you, methotrexate isn't exactly chemotherapy in the way that a lot of people might think. Chemotherapy just means drug treatment really.

It is really very commonly used for patients with rheumatoid arthritis, lupus, psoriasis, and using it itself wouldn't concern me at all. I've prescribed it loads myself and can't think off the top of my head of anyone who had side effects as a result.

The only thing, in your case, would be that you would be very strongly advised not to TTC for 3 months afterwards, which, given everything, just does delay things for you and it really would be a balance as to how sensible that might be. Not an expert, obviously, but would the folk at BH advise?

That's great news keep now fingers crossed there is no cyst

imps take care of yourself, hope you manage to rest a bit over Xmas. Have you got Another holiday booked?

dino Lovely to see you,, how is Everything with you?

We're off to see star wars tonight, its more for MrB than me, he has made me Watch all the other episodes over the last few weeks as he was worried that my star wars knowledge wasn't up to scratch :o

Beedles, have fun tonight. I've never seen any of them and I feel it is a bit late to start now so DH will have to find a friend to go along with. I'm doing okay, still being very sick, so sitting in a cinema wouldn't be great anyway!

My dh is going tomorrow with his brother, I can't stand star wars. My excuse is babysitting... Have fun beedle!

Hi dino how many weeks are you? Is all going OK?

I don't think I've had a cyst before in my hundreds of dildo cams but there's always sod's law.. Omg did I tell you the Hosp said we were welcome to bring kip on EC day...

HIRRAH PROPER BLOOD WITH PROPER CLOTS ALL AFERNOON!! I think it's all coming out! Hurrah!!

Thanks for advice Dino. I would have had it if necessary but would prefer not to. The 3 month thing wouldn't actually be a problem as we're not starting IVF until April anyway (holidays and weekends away means we can't start earlier!) and we're not going to try naturally before then anyway - it would likely just end in miscarriage and delay things even more.

But fingers crossed I don't need to worry thanks to the wonderful real blood and clots!!

hurrah for real good and clots

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I didn't think I'd ever cheer passing blood clots, but I will today for you, Imps - hurrah!

AF is still due. I'm spotty, tearful, nauseous and tired from nights of disturbed sleep. Dd1 is misbehaving and I shouted at her yesterday afternoon and this morning (she was being rude and cheeky). I hate doing that. That's the one bit of parenthood I would change because being the object of a child's anger/frustrations makes me feel like shit (I'm a big fat softie and it hurts), then needing to discipline them makes me feel shit, too. And none of that is good when you're hormonal!

I guess she's tired and ready for a rest, too. It's their last day at school before Christmas today and it's been a busy term.

Morning lovelies

Am in the EPU again - had some pain this morning and it looks like I've got some blood in the wrong place. They've taken bloods for iron and HCG - depending on those results they may choose to operate this afternoon.

I've had a good sob on the consultant and nurse. I'm not worried about surgery, but I'm just so damned tired. They've been lovely and put me in a room by myself while I wait for the blood results which will take a few hours. Feeling a bit sorry for myself and I think having a good old sob is doing me the world of good (but for being a little embarrassing.)

Mol sorry you're feeling low today too. Let's hold hands and do it together. Anyone else want to join us in a group cry today? We can get back to brooking tomorrow.

Oh imps hope you're ok, is MrImps there with you? If they operate does this mean tube removal? Sorry you're having to go through all this crap and so close to Christmas as well. Nothing wrong with a good cry, I sobbed on one of colleagues shoulders a few weeks ago, for no real reason at all (he was rather lovely about it though - obviously very well trained by his wife!) Big hugs xx

Mr Imps is in Vienna! He'll be back tonight though.

Feeling much better now that I've rearranged the Ocado delivery for tonight when Mr I will be home, and told the butcher that we may be picking up the turkey for this weekend tomorrow rather than today. It's just all such a massive inconvenience - I think that's what gets me down the most. Never mind, it will all be okay.

Oh and re: tube - consultant said it doesn't necessarily mean the loss of it, but I'm prepared for the likelihood of losing it which I don't feel is too much of a problem in the grand scheme of things.

Oh no imps sending you lots of love, wish one of us was there. Good on you getting there quick. And you're right, who needs tubes anyway if ivf is order of the game xx

Hoooooray am heading home! HCG has dropped massively and my haemoglobin levels are fine so consultant remains happy that body is getting rid of it naturally. Will head in again on Sun morning for another scan/bloods.

Thanks for the cry group, Imps. I'm sorry to read about your day. It sounded quite frightening, actually, but I am relieved for you in that everything is dropping away naturally.

I had a better day. Dd1 was in a lovely mood this afternoon/evening and dd2 is so happy not to be at school for a couple of weeks! She loves it, but loves being with me, too So, it has been a really lovely start to Christmas.

AF is taking her time to arrive. Cow.

Hmmmm you sure you're not diffed Mol? Nausea? Disturbed sleep? Weepiness? No AF??

imps glad you're home and hope mrimps is with you. Make him look after you, and do not do all your social activities planned for the weekend, you need to rest, lovely

Thanks Keep. Mr Imps is here now. I just have tomorrow to get through and then I can put my feet up a bit.

Do you think you've ov'd now? Your surge was yesterday wasn't it?

POAS and another -ve this morning. No sign of AF, either! Going out for the day so have to make sure I pack oodles of sani pads :-/

AF is slowly coming and I reckon it'll hit me properly tomorrow. I annoyingly inevitably noticed every baby and bump on our trip, but it really serves as a reminder to not think about getting pg all the time, then wondering if I'm pg in the 2ww and to NOT TEST SO FUCKING EARLY.

We had a lovely day, but I did feel pangs of sadness at times. That's silly, I know. We have 2 dds are are so lucky to have them, so deep breaths and all that.

I used to have a rule (which I was good at sticking to): never test before day 35. I'll bring that back big time next cycle.

I read about the lesser common side effects of my new medicine and one is nausea, so that's a big mystery solved. I am so tired because my sleep has been disturbed for a couple of weeks - you know when you wake at 1am, then 4am, and then have to get up at 6am? It's like that. So nausea+tiredness doesn't = pg, as I was hoping it would.

Those weird stab by cramps must have been late ov.

Bollocks to symptom spotting. I'm going to get drunk this Christmas and new year and not give any of it a second thought because none of it means anything anyway.

How are you doing Imps? How is your blood flow? Good luck for your scan tomorrow.

*stab by = stabby

Sorry if I sound grouchy. I get horrible PMS, plus I'm pissy because I'm not pg! I'll be back to normal in a few days thank fuck for that, I hear you say

I probably ov'd on Thursday I think imps tis weird to not have to DTD... Hope you are doing OK. Brooking for Monday's scan

Sorry mol, it's still early days for you though, this is only your ?2nd cycle. I think your rule is sensible, shall we remind you of it next month?

You're right keep, it was only my 2nd cycle (this is day #1 of cycle 3). I think I have unresolved issues from ttc dd2. Yes please, all remind me of my 'day 35' rule in case I go symptom-spotting crazy again!

Thinking more positively, this was the first month in a very long time that my PMS symptoms resembled what I can decipher to be normality: mildly tender but not extremely painful boobs; tetchy for only a few days leading up; spotting just the day before, rather than two weeks before. I think the asthma medicine has reduced other inflammation, so we'll see if the same happens this cycle.