Any temping experts fancy having a look at my chart?

[Vap0]

Hi

Thanks for taking the time to look. Would this suggest I ovulated? My opks say no as they only went about a third as dark as the control line. I definitely didn't miss it with the opks as I checked each time I went for a wee on the important dates. This is my 1st month charting and am struggling a little.

Hi rose what an emotional rollercoaster you've been on! Did you manage to dtd most days around ov? Pleased your consultant said its nothing to worry about. When did you have your follicle scan then? Was it before ewcm etc or after? Everything crossed you catch it this cycle. If it doesn't happen this cycle when can you start IVF? Will that be the next step or will they try you on femara again on a higher dose? Where are you up to in your cycle? When will you be testing?

Things aren't good here I'm afraid. Spotting started (brown) and cramping on sat, not much but enough to have me worried. Dr felt that it was another mc as the symptoms were the same and timing the same as last time. It's just wait and see now though. If the last mc is anything to go by I'd expect proper bleeding to start tomorrow or Wednesday. Not cramped today but still spotting. She had a poke around my tummy which was painful last time which is one of the last threads of hope I'm clinging to. Everything is just exactly the same as last time which is making me think there is little hope. Been signed off work this week as I'm in no fit state to be out for dinner with colleagues twice this week. Pregnancy tests are fading. Will see what happens in the morning. Had a dr appointment today and really twisted her arm to let me have a blood test today and on Wednesday for hcg and will have a telephone appointment on Friday. At least I will then know for sure what is going on if bleeding doesn't start by then. It's so bloody shit! Having this happen once was bad enough. Now it appears to be happening again. She herself said as it was the same time it is probably a mc which basically means to me there is clearly a problem with hormones or something if it's happening at the same time. So bloody do some tests! So annoying!

Oh Vap I'm so sorry that you are going through such a shitty time again The spotting and cramping itself doesn't necessarily mean its an mc, but I can understand you thinking the worst esp with the fading tests I really hope things work out for you. I'm glad you have been signed off work- make sure you take it really really easy and try (I know its pretty much impossible) to keep your mind active with other things. There's nothing you can do right now to change things; don't forget that xxx

We DTD on CD5, 7 and 8. I had EWCM all day on CD7 and 8, and the right ovary pain was from CD5-9. FF thinks I ov'ed on CD8 so it does all tie in! I also had the pos opk and temp rise on CD8. My scan was on CD9 so potentially after I ov'ed, so that may account for not seeing the follicle.

So if FF is right and the scan just missed the follicle we are still in with a chance.... will just have to wait and see! I'm CD13 now and 5DPO according to FF.

Fingers crossed the scan missed it.
Good luck got a pre Xmas bfp
I think tomorrow's hpt will tell the story more clearly.
Will update tomorrow

Oh I'm so sorry Vap0 it all seems so cruel. Keeping everything crossed for you.

Glad to hear you're 5dpo Rosebud and appear to have hit the right days. Good luck to you in 10 days time!

Hi
Thought I'd update
No bleeding yet
No symptoms of anything
Spotting seems to have held off today, maybe a bit this morning
Just kept busy today cleaning the house trying to keep my mind off things
Hpt today looked slightly darker than yesterday's
Looking forward to testing tomorrow and see what it says

pcr you're good suggesting testing at 15 dpo, I'm a maniac at early testing. Although the twice I've had positives with frer I've had one on 10dpo (this month) and one on 13dpo but hadn't tested any earlier. I think if I need to use another I'd try 9dpo, maybe even 8dpo. The lines I've had are quite strong.

When will you test rose what kind of test will you use? I can very strongly recommend frer as the most accurate although not as kind on your pocket as Internet cheapies. I bought some on Amazon for a lot less than boots. Do you have any tests already or will you go out on the day and buy one?

Morning!
So, 7dpo for you today rose any symptoms? Don't know why I'm asking as I never had any before getting either bfp but I know some ladies do. Everything crossed for you!
So, today's test has gone noticeably darker. Bottom one in the pic. I'm really really hoping this turns out well. I'm getting excited again. Probably shouldn't.

pcr when did you make your 1st mw appointment? Is it too early to contact them now? I was thinking it may be a good time to sort it whilst I'm off work. How are you getting on with your sickness?

Vap So pleased to see your ics getting stronger- this is a really good sign! I am keeping my fingers and toes tightly crossed for your little bean! How many dpo are you now? When are you due to get your two blood test results back?

I'm determined not to test until AF due date (as decided by FF) which is 14dpo. My chart temps are very very shallow though and I'm not convinced FF has my ov day right! I'm beginning to seriously consider whether I have even ov'ed yet this cycle! Here's my chart:

www.fertilityfriend.com/home/5790c0

See what I mean??? Usually I get really sore nipples post ov, but this cycle nothing! Ov hasn't happened, I'm almost certain.

I have 4 x FRERs and at least 30 ics in my bathroom cabinet! I seem to be hoarding tests with no reason to use them! Sad huh?!

Hi

That is an unusual looking chart. But you never know cd13 could have been implantation.... Oh I do hope you ovulated! Your opk's say yes, ff says yes, ewcm suggests yes. Lots of pointers make it sound like you have. Also looks like you dtd at exactly the right time to catch it. Fingers crossed! So next Wednesday morning you'll be testing then? If af doesn't catch you 1st which I really hope she doesn't! Good luck! Looking forward to hearing about how you get on.

Today is 18dpo. It feels like it should be longer but I tested early so knew at 10dpo. Although still feels like I've known longer than just 9 days. Blood test results from Monday and Wednesday are due back on Friday mid morning/early afternoon. Will let you know the numbers...

Rosebud I think you probably have ov'd this month. Your other signs suggest you did (EWCM, +OPK)

Vap0 glad to see the test is nice and dark. I did a self-referral to the midwife at 7 weeks and the sent a booking in appointment for 9 weeks.

My sickness is about the same, randomly every few days. I think it's here for the duration but I'm kind of used to it now.

Hi all. Iv been readying your thread, can I join in?

I came off the pill in July. 1st period 98 days. This is 2nd cycle, started temping to make it a bit clearer what's going on. But I think FF has my OV date wrong, what do you think?? I know I had temp rise before my pos OPK, but OPK was darkest on sat day 32 (which it's put as OV day) but very obvious OV pain day 33. OPK neg by day 33.. But I had a temp dip that day.. So does that fit better with OV?

I do struggle to do temp at same time every day, don't sleep that well so wake at different times and struggle to be asleep for solid 3 hours before... Does this make a big difference?

Thanks in advance xx

H sunny
I've only temped for 2 months so am not the most reliable source although rose and pcr seem to breathe charts.
I would have guessed cd32 by looking at your chart however if it was cd33 you still dtd at the right times so hopefully it doesn't matter too much. Timing does make a difference I believe as the later on in the morning the warmer you will be, although just wait for one of the others to confirm this before taking my word for it. I don't suppose you have a clue to when af is due? And in turn won't know when to test?
You're above the cover line which is good and so I would imagine you have ovulated. I suppose time will tell. I'll bet you're finding people's stories about "getting caught 1st month off the pill" or "bouncing back into a normal rhythm immediately" all pretty annoying about now. Best of luck. Keep in touch and let us know how you get on.

Thank you for your reply vapo. You are right, as long as Iv OV'd it doesn't really matter when. It's only 1st cycle temping (although it's been a long cycle!) so I'm just a bit worried that FF was telling me my temps and OPKs disagree. I guess I will have to dtd as much as possible around positive OPKs. We didn't really make the most of fertile period this month cow I really wasn't expecting to OV. And we are supposed to be just "waiting to see what happens" rather than really really trying! Also a bit worried that temp isn't very high, isn't that related to low progesterone??

Any way. Guess I will wait and see. Yeah.. I'm a midwife as well so I see loss of people who get pregnant 1st cycle/accidentally! Haha. I do also see those who have tried for ages and it's worked so that's reassuring too. Iv seen you recently got BFP.. Congratulations!! On the midwife appointment front it differs slightly from area to area. Usually booking appointment is between 8-12 weeks. We try to do it between 8-10 in my area. You don't need to see GP unless you have complicated condition/ on medication etc. can self refer to midwife usually via your GP reception or local midwife unit. Xx

Sunny that's great to have a midwife on the thread . You'd probably know more about progesterone than us. I have low progesterone too. My day 21 blood test was 27.1 and should be a min of 30 on day 21. Dr wouldn't entertain giving me any supplements though until I've had 3 mc. It's just a joke that you have to go through hell 3 times before they will help. I would suggest asking for a blood test but imagine it would be tough to get a blood test until your cycle settles down and you know when af is due.

What actually happens in a booking appointment? Do you scan then? Or just ask questions and fill in forms?

Thanks for the congratulations but I'm very concerned about it all. I can't enjoy this pregnancy as recently had a mc and this one appears to be going the same way. Any advice for me? I've been spotting for 6 days now. More like a brown discharge than actual spotting. Dr reckons it's most likely another miscarriage. Had a couple of blood tests done this week, I'll get the results back tomorrow. Do you see many ladies with a brown discharge? I'm on the brink of tears every time I go to the loo just waiting to see actual blood. Last time we made it to 4+6, today we are 4+4 so I'm sure you can imagine I'm on tenterhooks waiting for 4+6. I know there is not really anything that can be done at this stage other than wait.

Aw bless you, you sound like you are having a tough few days. We see lots and lots of people who have spotting and even quite heavy bleeding in early pregnancy and go on to have healthy pregnancies. It's not always the way sadly, and the difficulty is you won't know until you get your results back. But try not to worry too much. Every day must feel like such a long wait. Good luck with your blood results tomorrow.

At booking it's routine stuff: medical history, family history, prev prev details, talk about screening tests ie down screening, take screening bloods, height weight, blood pressure etc. CO testing. Routine advice. Took early for anything exciting like scans or hearing heartbeat. Book your dating scan which you have between 11-14 weeks. You can find info on appointment schedule/screening etc on NICE website/Nhs website/perinatal institute/screening council website. Xx

Too not took!

Hello Sunnydays I think you have ov'd because you had other signs and your temp is definitely higher. FF may be a day out as your temps are at the different times, but it's normally still clear if you've ov'd or not. I found taking my temp just before bed, the temp was always about the same and higher post ov, but only had about 18 days to test this theory.

I think you're in with a chance as definitely dtd day before. I would assume AF is due in about 10 days. Fingers crossed she's not coming, but if she is, let's hope it is in 10 days as that's a good sign of your cycles getting shorter and more regular. Good luck!

Sorry to hear you're still spotting Vap0. I remember that wait until 12 week scan was awful and I had no reason/past experiences to justify my anxiety so it must be a million times worse and longer for you.

Sunnydays, I think it's impressive that you managed to hit the day before OV when you had no idea when your FW was!

Thanks mrs pcr. Dtd the day before was pure fluke.. When I look back at this cycle we have dtd every Sunday for 5 weeks and generally one (sometimes 2) others days in the week... I think we are too tired/lazy the rest of the time! But I guess we will have to up our game if it takes a while!

That's interesting about taking temp at night. Im not sure how reliable I find my thermometer. If I do my temp more than once in the morning in a row, it's completely different, I think I put it in a slightly different place under my tongue each day.. Can fluctuate by whole points of a degree. X

I gave up temping orally as it was so inaccurate, especially if you sleep with your mouth open. Found temping vaginally was a lot more accurate and consistent but you need to do it at the start of your cycle as your temps will be higher.

Haha. Not sure what hubby would say if I started sticking thermometers up my vagina at 7am! Lol! He thinks I'm a bit bikers already considering we just said we would be relaxed and see what happens!

Had a nice little temp rise this morning so a bit further above cover line which makes me happier.

Xx

Bonkers not bikers! :)

Any news vapo? Has the spotting stopped? Are you still getting positive tests? X

Hi ladies,

So FF took my crosshairs away and now doesn't think I ov'ed which just confirms my suspicions! Here's my chart: www.fertilityfriend.com/home/5790c0

The plan is to wait a few more days and then take provera to end this cycle and move into the next one- I want to get a HyCoSy booked in for the beginning of next cycle so the provera will enable me to control when AF comes, which is good.

Reprofit are in the process of arranging my protocol- a combination of clomid tablets and menopur injections. I'm a bit nervous about taking clomid again after my last experience of it but they know my history so I'm willing to put my trust in them. Just waiting for confirmation of the doses and a date!!!

Sunny Hello! That definitely looks like ov to me! I think FF have got the date correct so you are officially in the 2ww!

Vap How did your bloods go? x

Hi rose. Your chart looks more like the beginning of your September chart.. And you did ov then, just a little later. Is it worth waiting a bit to see if you OV?

Thanks, temps def stayed up, so think I have OVd don't think I'm preg tho. No sx, (I know it's too early anyway) just the nipple tenderness I had after OV last month but that seems to be going today... It went before AF last month. Hey ho. Least I OVd and that's what I was worrying about. What are the implications of oving late in terms of getting pregnant? Will lining be any good then? I OVd day 32. I think it's just all settling down post pill still but suspicious about pcos. X