TTC for 10 months and the rest. Ten plussers welcome. Thread 2.

[lucieloos]

We have been so busy chatting I've started a new thread. Welcome all 10+ ladies. Hope we all have some luck on this thread.

Hi everyone, how are you all doing? Sammy will you be testing this weekend? I really hope it's worked for you.
Is anyone else testing soon?
I'm still feeling really flat. Found out a friend is pregnant and I know she only came off the pill in May when I'd already been trying for 6 months. I didn't cry or even get upset really - feel like my emotions are a bit deadened. I know I'm only 12 months into this journey and many of you are much further along but did you feel like this at the 1 year mark? I think I'm resigned to the fact it won't happen naturally and now it's all the waiting for appointments and treatment

Oh and trixie, what is a scratch? Is it a test or treatment? Trying to get informed about what might be next on this journey.

Trixie - I actually tested this morning, but it's a very definite bfn :(. My temp is still up, but at 9dp5dt a positive would surely be showing on a frer by now? Feeling very low now as that was a perfect embryo stuck in with glue and I still can't get pregnant.

Star, yes, the 12 month mark was really hard for me. Try to find other things to do/think about to stop you feeling low. Distract distract distract. Xx

I'm so sorry Sammy it's so hard. Big hugs to you. If this doesn't work out then I think I would be looking at your lining but really hoping af will stay away for you and you will get a nice surprise in the next few days. Hang in there lovely x

What do you think could be wrong with the lining Lucie? It was definitely thick enough this time . Are there more things that could be wrong? Xx

I think it's the thickness to be honest. It was 6.7mm when you ovulated and so wouldn't have got thicker than that after ovulation. If you look around even 7mm is too thin. They like it to be at least 8mm, preferably 9. I was surprised they did it at that thickness and I know my clinic have cancelled women at 6.5mm who are on estrogen and still have a little while to go until transfer.

There is lots of info out there like here and here The doctor who I have been consulting with recently also gave the advice in the pic to someone else.

It can and does work for some at that thickness though so you could still be in with a chance especially if af hasn't arrived and it was due today that has to be a good sign. I'm just saying that if it turns out that it hasnt worked then that is what I would be looking into as you should have good eggs at your age. I think it easily treatable too. I know it sounds weird but my clinic use viagra which seems to thicken it up nicely. It's quite commonly used in IVF clinics. Just my thoughts anyway, I don't mean to be all doom and gloom and I could be completely wrong but just trying to work out what it is for you based on my research and other peoples cycles this year xx

Sammy I am sorry :(

Oh Sammy, I'm so sorry it was a BFN today. I did loads of googling last month re late BFPs and it happens. I guess you will have to see what tomorrow brings, sending hugs. The thing that confuses me is that if your temp is still high then I guess AF won't arrive and if you had a trigger for ov and no meds then what else could be delaying AF....I am really hoping its a late BFP for you, we are certainly due one!

Star, everyone I know seems to get pregnant straight after coming off birth control....I think it is taking me ages to average it all out.
I found the 12 month mark really hard. Joined this thread around then and it helped. Don't give up on it happening naturally, stay positive.
We had a failed IVF cycle in the summer and a failed FET a few months ago. we decided to have some tests for implantation failure. I had a hysteroscopy where they use a camera to check for any lesion in the lining, a NK cell biopsy and some more blood tests. The biopsy involved scraping the lining and apparently when the area recovers it can encourage implantation. Some people have a scratch done the cycle before IVF.

Thanks Lucie, still no af but cramps are worse and I'm sure she'll arrive in the morning.

The cut off for my clinic is 6.5mm, and they seem to have quite good success rates. However I will read up on the links you've given and do some research. I feel like I've killed that embryo with my insufficient lining :(
If I had known about this I would never have stayed on the pill for so long. No one ever told me the risks. Xx

Cross posts Trixie - thank you, I'd love that to happen, but I'm not feeling positive. My lp has been 13/14 days so it wouldn't be totally strange to see a temp drop and af tomorrow. Xx

Hello thread, may I join you? Been trying for a year, had tried for 18m a few years ago with exH, both tested which showed I have slightly fewer than average eggs released each month and he had "some abnormalities", but we never went any further because we split up. Current DP is super-fertile (or was with his ex; I have two DSC) but so far nothing. I'm as regular as clockwork and was two days late, sore and inflamed boobs, needed to pee every half-hour, was feeling exhausted, dizzy, and also just peculiar, like all my nerves were tingling, but period arrived this morning, and I've just had my DPs over for dinner and found out my DCousin's wife is pregnant. SiL is too, as is one of my best friends and it just feels like it's happening for everyone but me .

I've just had a cigarette and a glass of wine. Not the best idea, but meh. I'm tempted to stop trying until after Christmas, but I'll be 40 next year and I don't really have time to spare!

Am hoping talking with some people going through something similar will help as it has done for some of you. What do you do when you're feeling hopeless?

Sorry Sammy, I really wish this would happen for you and all of us. See what the next couple of days bring. It can happen with 6.5mm but I think the chances are a lot less than if the lining is at its optimum of 8mm+. There's plenty that can be done though it's just unfortunate it's all trial and error and can sometimes take more than one try to get it right. We will all get there though I just know it. Still crossing fingers for you xx

Welcome Clare, and sorry about all the pregnancies around you. That's really tough. I have some too and I'm really struggling to want to go to family /friend events now. I just want to stay home and keep away from them all.

Lucie - thank you for your kind words, and advice. I am not in a good place right now so am going to try to avoid here for a bit, although will come back to let you know when af arrives. Xx

You have all my hopes and best wishes Sammy, it's going to be a tough couple of days - but there is hope!

Sadly not itsme, I've started bleeding. So coupled with the bfn I'm pretty sure that's it. I'm so very sad that we've lost an embie, and feel so very hopeless right now. I can't even hold out hope for a natural bfp due to my lining so I'm now waiting again until the new year. Xx

Really sorry to hear it Sammy.

I'm really sorry to hear that Sammy. I know how I felt after the first transfer and it was very hard. Felt like I was in a fog which I struggled to get out of but I did and realised it wasn't the end. I have found its good to take a few days and then come up with the next plan and something to focus on. You will get there, if it is a lining problem then it will be relatively easy to solve than if you weren't producing good eggs. 2016 is going to be the year for all of us x

Sending hugs Sammy.

Sammy, I am gutted for you I know it feels hopeless but it will get easier I promise. You have been through a lot this year so maybe a wee break will help. Do whatever you can to make yourself feel better, favourite food and drink, a nice bath, favourite film x x
Will you be having a follow up at your clinic? Maybe there is something they can suggest for your lining. I had a quick google and found this;

yinstill.com/articles/how-improve-thin-uterine-lining-increase-fertility-part-2

Welcome Clare, I wish there was an easy answer. I usually find a good cry and a glass of wine help. I think having a plan helps and trying to focus on other things.

Lucie, how long until your hospital appointment?

I temped this morning (CD17) and seem to have ovulated so hopefully this won't be another long cycle.

PS 2016 is so going to be our year!!

Hey ladies, its 10 months for us also. Im 28 yrs old....

Today though on day 21 of a 28 day cycle, (tmi alert)- went for a wee, and had teeny tiny bright pink spots when i wiped...

Doubt it is anything, getting hopes up, gets me nowhere...

Blood testing on Friday to see if there are issues...

Baby dust to all xx

Hospital appt is this Thursday trixie so that will be interesting to see what they have to say. Hopefully I can then order my next lot of drugs for my Czech round once I know what I'm doing with the NHS. I have to start birth control mid December so at least that's a start.

Welcome Clare, I find when feeling hopeless it's best to formulate a plan so you have something to aim for.

Hi max, fingers crossed for good news for you.

Sammy I also had thin lining... I had baby aspirin and beetroot juice.
Also I was recommended to keep my feet very warm especially around implantation, tww and early pregnancy.

Also reading through that article I release how much of it I did. Two solid years of cq10 and also a low GI diet as much as I could

Thanks Trixie, that's really helpful. Thank you for googling on my behalf.

Pikz - could you let me know what you changed diet wise?

Max - fx it's good news and you don't have to go through any of this.

Lucie - good luck for your appointment.

Xx