When to expect period - Provera

[EllaMenoPea]

As above really. I finished 5 days of Provera on Saturday to induce a bleed to start Clomid. When should I expect a period? Just wondering if anyone has any experiences. Google is telling me lots of different times. Getting impatient

Good luck Ella! Fingers crossed this is the one! Have you started the new job? I'm on count down now to leave my job. Last day is Friday 15th April!!

Shingles has largely improved and the rash is healing over well. Fingers crossed the end is in sight! Had a lovely Easter weekend (apart from some knob driving into the back of me at a roundabout) with family. It just sent so fast! xxx

Thanks guys...I have been feeling very hormonal this time round! New jobs great thanks for asking :)

Good luck with your appointment today robber, let is know how it goes.

Glad you're feeling better boggle, is it Provera again for you?

How are you getting on moomin?

Pleased you're enjoying your job Ella.

I won't start Provera until i've started my new job. I need to know i've been there enough time to get SMP if Clomid works this time around. I'm trying to ignore the feelings of guilt for try to have a baby when i've not been in a job long but if i'd known it would have taken me over 18 months to try and conceive, I would have moved on AGES ago! I guess the plus side is i'm not thinking about it ALL THE TIME as i've got a new job to start and finishing off here too. Perhaps these are all good things.

Hello All Glad you are feeling better Boggle and that your new job is going well Ella. How was the appointment Robber? I was thinking about you yesterday.

AFM I'm counting down the days until I finish the evil that is Microgynon Bloody awful stuff it is - been feeling super bloated, miserable, angry and icky. I can understand why people suffer from weight gain on it as I'm also mad for sugary stuff. I daren't weigh myself as I've put on about three stone in water retention as all my jeans are tight So annoying that this is all going on when I have two weeks off! Ah well, I get to start stabbing in less than a fortnight

Hello everyone, hope you've enjoyed a gorgeously sunny day (apart from the whole being-in-work bits).

Ella, I guess it must almost be DTD time? Ah, the romance of scheduled sex and preseed...

Boggle so glad you're feeling better. Hope your car is ok - what a rubbish thing to happen! Did they accept the fault?

Moomin you must be past the halfway mark now with microgynon? I think it leaves your system quickly at least so you should start feeling better. Also, question for

AFM, appointment went generally ok, few odd bits. She was ... let's just say to the point. I'll give a full breakdown in case it helps anyone lurking:

• Clomid clearly isn't working for me so she would refer me for injectables (menopur). However she did say that I might as well do a fifth round of Clomid while I wait for the menopur appointment to come through, so I started that night on the Clomid long protocol. It is supposed to be more effective for people with HA, so I've got my fingers crossed
• they told me my BMI (20.8) was 'only just good enough' and to put on a bit more weight if I could
• she told me she wouldn't prescribe progesterone pessaries for menopur because the most recent evidence said they could actually be unhelpful. She said they used to prescribe them for injectables rounds saying 'it won't hurt', but now will only prescribe them for IVFers. She did explain why - something about depressing certain hormones and making them rebound later - and then gave me a very confusing seesaw metaphor. Either way, looks like I'm dodging the fanjo bullets for now!
• they won't scan me at the start of treatment, they will give me norethisterone to induce a bleed instead. I nearly cried at that bit, I hate that drug.
• She gave me more detail on the NHS allowance in my area. They are really strict on IVF, so if the injectables make my FSH increase or if DH's sperm count dips below normal, we might not qualify :( DH has just been told he needs to eat well and take his vitamins - he's not happy about it, but given the crap I'm putting in my body, he can suck it up!

Sorry for the essay. Despite it all going pretty much as expected, I came out feeling unexpectedly depressed. I think it was the realisation that NHS-wise, I'm getting closer and closer to last chance saloon.

Hope you've all got good weekends planned? I'm off to a wedding where I know no one and DH is driving, so I'm going to get happily drunk and dance alot.

LADIES!!! I think AF might be turning up on her own!! :D :D

YES boggle! Will you just start the clomid?

I've had a flashy smiley face the last 2 mornings so hoping I get a solid smiley in the morning!

Thanks for the full update Robber and good news about the referral for injectables Can they not start them a bit sooner? Interesting about the fanjo bullets and the BMI - mine is always under 20

Good news about AF Boggle and about the smileys Ella Really pleased for you both. Let's all make sure April/May brings us good news!

Only two days of Microgynon left - I feel so out of character. Really indifferent/apathetic about life, bouts of extreme anger about things and terrible insomnia. Can't wait for the painters to arrive and the stabbing to commence.

Oh God, sorry robber I didn't see your update!

How are you feeling about it all now? What are your dates for things happening? Hope the wedding was lovely and you managed to enjoy yourself

When should AF rock up moomin?

Good question Ella... I take the final pill on Friday, so a coupe of days later? I've not been on the pill since July 2014, but from memory I used to finish a packet on Wednesdays and the painters would always arrive at about 6pm on the Friday! I don't feel like I have PMT though... except my stomach is even more swollen than it has been of late. But not the usual tiredness and being emotional etc. Having spent quality time with nieces and nephews lately, I am determined that it must be my turn now. I want a little person of our own to love and adore. I have been (reasonably) patient and feel determined to give this my best shot.

Thank feck you're all back - I thought my dull update had killed the thread!

Go go Boggle! That's brilliant news.

And Ella hurray, I'm glad it worked again.

Moomin getting to and keeping a BMI at this level has required a volume of peanut butter you would not think possible. It is also a bit of a head fuck when you're used to being very slim - so weird to struggle to do up trousers and remember 'this is what your doctor wants for your health'. But the fact that treatment gets withdrawn if I don't comply has focused my mind! I hope your last few days of microgynon are ok.

AFM, I'm on day 8 of the extended Clomid protocol, I feel like crap (insomnia, headaches) and I've still got 2 days to go. I've also been chasing the NHS people for an appointment date. Given I'm getting referred from the Clomid nurse to the Injectables nurse who literally sits in the room next door, you wouldn't think it could take so long! But still, got to love the NHS.

We never go away Robber - we just don't always reply straight away. But we're always here, keeping an eye on the thread and thinking about each other That's why I love our cosy little thread - no need to look several times a day and immediately respond in case you get left behind. I do also watch and occasionally contribute to the mind numbing boredom of infertility thread - jam packed with incredibly strong and inspirational women, who somehow manage to have a sense of humour.

PS Your update wasn't dull Robber - I found it very useful as you are the only other person with HA that I have come across (with the exception of an American forum). We need to stick together (with Ella and Boggle of course + not forgetting Eskimo).

Moomin this definitely deserves to be your round. Are you going to do anything differently? Anything woo you can try - reflexology, that kind of thing?

So hopefully Sunday moomin? Fingers crossed! Sorry to hear about the rubbish symptoms though.

When do you check for ov robber? Will it be scans or blood tests this time?

Thanks Robber I just think I've turned a corner and managed a change of mindset. This long journey started with the excitement of starting a family, then just a few months later turned into 'beating' infertility (rather than having a baby), but now I have returned to the yearning for a child with my DH. I feel more positive about the treatment this time - the previous rounds I've been a by passive and feel that I just ought to be grateful for the NHS help, but now I feel more assertive and in the driving seat (much more like me) which means I feel more in control.

Excellent moomin, trying to think positive thoughts over here too!

I think I got a bit over excited. Perhaps it was just spotting? Not much else has happened... I might have to miss Clomid this cycle due to starting my new job in less than 2 weeks... xxx

Update plus TMI alert!

Just been to the loo, seems things are still going on! This is my first natural AF since August 2014!!!! :D Metformin must be doing it's job!

So, I think I have a dumb question but i'll ask it anyway... Can you have a period without ovulating? OR did I ovulate at some point in the last few weeks and this is why AF has come?

xxx

Hello y'all, just checking in to see how you all are!

Robber Hope you feel better soon. Keep chasing those NHS people and here's hoping you get an appointment very soon!

Moomin I love the PMA! Sounds like you've been having a fab time with your nieces and nephews The feeling of 'beating infertility' that you describe is absolutely spot on with how I felt most of the time. It's so easy to lose sight of the end goal, but I suppose the only way to beat the infertility is to keep focused on that goal. Huge respect for you getting your head around taking the Microgynon. I really don't know what I would have done if it had got to the stage where I had to take that stuff again, given that I firmly believe it was the cause of all my issues and shut everything down. I just don't know if I could have started taking it again. Still, I had spent so much of my life taking it that I really don't know if I had problems before I started it, so it may just all be in my head. My rational self knows that I would have taken it if I had to, and that the norethisterone works in pretty much the same way, but my irrational, emotional self would have been quite messed up by it I think. Hope AF arrives promptly and you can get started with the stabbing again soon. How many more rounds of injectables do you have? Am I right in thinking this is your third? If so, it's quite exciting, no?

Boggle Bodies are just cruel sometimes. So sorry that AF is still eluding you. Hope that the spotting is the start of full flow for you, but if not, that you can start the next round of clomid very soon. Wishing you the very best of luck for your new job x x

Ella Any sign of the smug smiley yet? Hope you're getting lots of DTD time in!

Really hoping that Spring will be the month when we get some great news on this thread. It's long awaited and very much deserved by all of you.

Nothing much to update from me. 20 week scan in 2 and a half weeks, but apart from that, I'm just ticking along. I've joined a 'pregnancy after infertility' thread on here, as I don't feel like I can join in with the enthusiastic posts of the 'September Antenatal Club.' A lot of them are on their 2nd or 3rd babies and had no trouble conceiving. They are already discussing purchases and some of them have bought things already. I just can't see me getting to that stage any time soon. Things are still in the 'what if/ hypothetical' stage for me and I find myself crossing my fingers or reaching for the nearest wooden object whenever I dare mention the baby. My growing stomach is a comfort, as is the fact that my belly button is gradually getting more shallow, but until I actually feel movement or get the thumbs up from the anomaly scan, I won't really actually fully believe everything is going to be ok.

Oh, and the gum infection has gone! Tooth is still causing issues, but it's so much better- thanks for asking Robber. Love to you all x x

Oops, took me so long to compose that message that I missed your post, Boggle! Hoorah for AF and hoorah for Metformin. From what I've heard about that drug, it's an absolute miracle worker. I am by no means an expert, and I've read conflicting things about this, but I would say that a period is a sign of ovulation, just from my experience of not ovulating and no menstrual cycle. The only time I've had a 'natural' AF was from the round of clomid that made me ovulate, so I'm going to stick my neck out and say hoorah for ovulation too!

Thanks Eskimo!
It's so nice to hear from you. 2 weeks will be here soon and you can see your bubba again. Are you finding out the sex?
There's no correct time to buy stuff, it's when you're comfortable and ready. Send pictures of cute stuff to us won't you!

Ella I hope you're DTD as much as you can! Lets hope this is the month!

Moomin glad you're feeling more positive.

Robber glad to hear things are ticking along and you've been given Clomid while you wait. Hopefully this will work and you won't need to stab!

Love to you all you wonderful women!

Aaargh, I spoke too soon! I just had a piece of toast and got a seed stuck between my teeth, so I flossed and my whole crown came out! I am so, so fed up of my flippin' teeth now; it's one thing after another. It doesn't hurt as I had a root canal last year and have no nerve in there, but there is now a huge, deep hole and nothing covering it. Luckily, I called the dentist and he can get me in this evening, but I just want the whole thing out now so I can forget about it. I don't think they'll do that though, as it's next to a wisdom tooth and the whole area is problematic.

Boggle Yes, we will be finding out the sex. I didn't mind not knowing, but DH is very keen to know and the more I think about it, the more I like the idea! I will post cute things, as requested, in oh, about 6 months time? Of course, by that time you're all going to be upduffed anyway, so we'll all have moved out of the conception boards and onto the grad ones.

Will reply properly later, but just wanted to say that I've quickly read all the posts (my we've been busy!) with a huge smile on my face. You guys are the best X