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When to expect period - Provera

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EllaMenoPea · 06/10/2015 09:42

As above really. I finished 5 days of Provera on Saturday to induce a bleed to start Clomid. When should I expect a period? Just wondering if anyone has any experiences. Google is telling me lots of different times. Getting impatient Blush

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EllaMenoPea · 16/03/2016 17:44

Yes but I can't remember exactly how long off the top of my head...how long do you need too wait?

I'm thinking of starting again in May time, which feels ages away now I've said it Sad

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RobberBride · 16/03/2016 22:42

Yayy Boggle that's amazing news, well done!

Ella and Boggle you are both going to keep hanging out on this thread aren't you? You can tell us about your lovely new jobs. Don't abandon me! ;)

Eskimo thanks very much for telling me that. May I ask, do they know why you weren't ovulating - was it PCOS? Hypothalamic Amenorrhea? When you did ovulate, did you 'feel' it, were there any symptoms? On the first cycle you ovulated, do you remember what day? So sorry for so many questions! It is really nice to hear a success story.

Moomin hope you're doing ok.

YouBoggleMyMind · 17/03/2016 09:01

I think you can be pregnant a week after you start the new job. I'll prolly be hanging on until May to start again. Will have to manage my metformin dose though as i'll run out before starting again.

YouBoggleMyMind · 17/03/2016 09:03

Don't worry Robber we'll keep in contact. Will download Mumsnet on my phone.

EllaMenoPea · 17/03/2016 10:05

Haha no robber we're in this together now!

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YouBoggleMyMind · 17/03/2016 11:21

I think I have shingles :(

EllaMenoPea · 17/03/2016 14:02

No way :( poor you!! How are you feeling?

At least you have it before your BFP. This is what I thought about DD's chicken pox...I would be so paranoid if I was pg.

How are you feeling now eskimo?

And moomin you Ok? X

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YouBoggleMyMind · 17/03/2016 16:04

Yeah, i'm shingled up.
Just got back from the Dr with anti viral meds :(:( I feel sad. xxx

eskimoflo · 17/03/2016 17:14

Oh Boggle I'm so sorry. What is it with us and the chickenpox virus at the moment?! Hope you feel better soon and also huge congratulations on the new job! Grin

Ella I'm ok thank you. Went back to the dentist last night and he was going to prescribe me some antibiotics until I told him I had some, then he said it was ok to use those. It feels a bit better today, so I'm holding off them for as long as I can, but will probably end up starting them at the weekend. I just don't think my immunity is high enough to fight a gum infection completely at the moment and it needs a bit of a helping hand. Hope you're ok and you have lots of nice things planned to keep you busy and help the time fly before May! x

Robber Ask away! They never actually found anything amiss during the fertility tests, except of course, for the lack of ovulation and amenorrhea. I had all the usual scans, HyCoSy and bloods done. The only thing they noted was that my ovaries were slightly enlarged, but they also said that was not uncommon after stopping the pill. When I actually saw the consultant back in June last year, after having all the tests, he prescribed clomid but didn't say a lot else and when I asked if he thought that it was the pill that had slowed everything down, he simply nodded!

To answer your question about ovulation, I didn't feel it happen at all either time. I did, however, have very sore boobs both times and still do, 14 weeks into my pregnancy. It's the only symptom I've had to tell me about ovulation and it's how I guessed that the clomid didn't work on the times that it didn't.

I'm afraid that I can't remember on which day I ovulated the first time, but I have an app that may be able to tell me. However, it's on my Kindle, so I'll have to charge it up and get back to you on that one! My progesterone was 33 on CD21 on that test though, so it's likely that I ovulated around C14/15 then.

Hope that's all of some help to you!

Moomin I hope you're ok too x x

RobberBride · 17/03/2016 18:41

Boggle you poor thing! At least the May TTC start will give you time to recover from it and get healthy again. Are you feeling rubbish? Do you need to stay off work?

Ella hope your daughter has now recovered!

Eskimo thank you, that's really helpful.

I've just bought another 7 months of Pregnacare (I find it less depressing bulk buying it). I have to say, even if I eventually manage to have kids I might just stay on it forever, it is wonderful stuff!

Moomin37 · 17/03/2016 19:43

Congratulations on the job Boggle :) but I'm very sorry to hear about the shingles :( Also Eskimo I'm sorry to hear you're having a rough time.

Thank you all for asking after me - I went for my planning appointment yesterday (for the third round of Menopur injections) and the cyst I developed before is still there and therefore I need to go on the pill for a month :( Worse still, it's chuffing Microgynon - it'll turn me into a crazy woman! I start the stabbing on day two of the withdrawal bleed and if I stab for about 20 days then I think OTD will be around 14th May. Fingers crossed that it does the trick as otherwise I will need another lap to remove it and I really don't fancy that again. So I'm going to feel crazy/sad and shitty (from the stabbing and fanjo bullets) for the duration of my holiday and birthday, but hey ho, it better will be worth it, I tell myself. At least the sun is shining and it's Friday tomorrow :)

EllaMenoPea · 18/03/2016 06:53

Argh moomin how frustrating. I really have everything crossed for you that this round works.

Do you have any nice birthday plans? A holiday sounds lovely Smile

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RobberBride · 19/03/2016 11:35

Eskimo and Boggle how are you feeling now?

Moomin that sucks, Microgynon is rubbish. Can you ask for another? If they tried to make me take Microgynon I'd be on my knees begging for Yasmin instead.

Also Moomin may I ask what the process is for menopur? I think that's where I'm headed next. Do they give you the drugs, teach you how to inject them, and then you inject them for what - 3 weeks? Do you have scans or blood tests during this time? Do you know when you ovulate, or do you keep DTD every other day for the whole period? Did you have side effects? Sorry for all the questions - I know I'm lucky to be treated on the NHS, but my clinic has been a bit cavalier with the clomid treatment (no scans, just CD21 and CD28 blood tests), and I'm worried they will be as cavalier with injectables. Although if they do want to scan me every few days, I'm worried about how I'm going to manage escaping from work that often without raising suspicion!

Sounds like May is going to be a big month for everyone!

Ella good luck for Monday!

Moomin37 · 20/03/2016 12:59

Yes Robber Microgynon is the pits - when the nurse said I was to go on the pill I immediately asked which one and when she told me I said something like 'OMG it'll turn me mental!' and she said it's only a month, which is a fair point. Annoyingly I realised yesterday that I probably have some in date Yasmin left in stock, but it's too late now. Duh!

The process with ovulation induction using injectables is they scan me to look at my lining and if it's thin (it always is due to the HA) they start me straight away (usually you would start injecting on day two of the painters, but I don't really get them - it took 381 days after stopping Yasmin for them to turn up!). I then stab on my own for about seven days and after that, they get me in every three days (usually Mon, Wed and Fri) to scan and take blood. They are VERY cautious as the risk of multiples is high (something like 35%) and therefore they don't want to see more than two or three decent follies. I think normally women stab for about 12-14 days, but I am a slow responder so did 19 the first time and 18 the second I think. They talked me through the needles and mixing the solution, but they leave you to do the injections yourself. The needle is very fine so I barely feel it going in (I don't bother with ice cubes like lots of people do), but it does burn when you start pushing the needle, but it really isn't anything to be bothered about. It's sore for a couple of minutes afterwards, but I don't seem to get much bruising like others -if you're careful and take your time them it's fine. They advised us to DTD every three days, but you never know whether you actually ovulated. Taking the trigger shot and then DTD that night was an anxious time as I was worried about not administering it properly (you don't have a spare in the fridge) and felt bad about the pressure this put on poor DH.

I don't remember feeling too bad the first round, although the further into the cycle you get, the 'fuller' you feel and the more uncomfortable the scans (dildo cam) get, but again it's hardly the end of the world. When I started upping the dose I got a bit of a bad stomach - I will start on a higher dose straight away this time, so I'm not looking forward to that :( I think with the first round I was just relieved to get things under way and that I could handle the injections and wasn't getting awful side-effects (like the crazy Microgynon mood swings etc.), so it didn't have too much of an impact on my life (it was surreal leaving the office for the scans/bloods and then re-appearing and thinking 'no-one has a clue where I've been and what I'm going through'). However, I must admit the second round took it's toll as I felt much worse - very tired and 'yucky' plus miserable. I was so happy to compete the injections and take the trigger, but this was short lived as they then realised I should be taking progesterone pessaries (Cyclogest) and I have to say these bad boys are evil - not so much the shoving it in and dealing with the wax pouring (slight exaggeration) out, but they made me feel so down and hopeless, and exhausted. Oh and I was ravenous, but obviously with HA, I'm good at being very harsh on myself, so managed to avoid pigging out all the time which is all I wanted to do. Despite feeling rubbish, which sucks when you have a senior position in a large organisation with lots of pressure/expectations on you (I manage a large team, so have to be leading by example etc.), I tried to keep it all in perspective e.g. no pain, no gain, if you think this is bad, trying being pregnant or child birth etc.

I took the BFN very badly this time - not helped by other rubbish family stuff taking place at the same time. My DH is holding on to the fact that at the first appointment they said it usually works third time, but I don't feel positive about any of it any more. Also, like many barrens I had got caught up in focusing on overcoming the infertility, rather than the wanting a baby, but I'm now very much swinging back the other way and really struggling to accept that I may never have a little person who calls me mum and gives me hugs etc. As a result, I'm feeling more bitter and struggling when I see pregnant women (especially colleagues) etc. which I feel bad about as they too may have struggled like I am. I'll stop there as I'm rambling on and making myself feel so sad.

Moomin37 · 20/03/2016 13:14

Oops sorry for writing an essay! I find it hard to reply on my phone, so I fired up the PC and off I went!

Meant to say hello Smile to everyone else.

RobberBride · 20/03/2016 18:48

Moomin thank you so much for writing your essay, I really appreciate that level of detail. It massively helps me and my DH to know what might be coming our way. Flowers for you and everything you and your DH are going through.

At least you've ovulated once naturally - despite everything I've done (putting on a ton of weight, giving up nearly all exercise, changing to a less stressful job) I've still not managed it. Injectables are supposed to be the thing that works for women with HA, though as your doctor and DH say, often not the first few times. Keeping everything crossed that third time is a charm for you.

Moomin37 · 20/03/2016 19:21

You're very welcome Robber and I'm happy to answer any other questions you might have :)

How are you feeling Boggle?

YouBoggleMyMind · 21/03/2016 11:50

I'm very sore :(
It'll take 2-4 weeks for the rash to go but the area will still be painful due to the virus affecting my nerves in that area. Hopefully the antivirals will help to make it as short as possible.

xxx

Moomin37 · 21/03/2016 12:52

Oh Boggle sending you Thanks

RobberBride · 22/03/2016 22:06

Boggle that sucks. I'm guessing you're off work? Is that a silver lining?

Wave to everyone, how are you all doing?

Well, I'm out for this cycle (can you have cycles if you don't ovulate?) After a whopping progesterone level of 1 on CD 22, my body managed 0.5 on CD 29. I can't even be arsed to get upset anymore. Still, I've got the consultant appointment on Tuesday morning, and thanks to Moomin I'm armed with info and questions. And I'm now off work and going away tomorrow with DH for a long weekend at my parents' house.

YouBoggleMyMind · 23/03/2016 09:28

Hi Robber
Sorry to hear you're out. Next month will be the month! Fingers crossed!
I'm not off work, no. I feel fine in myself, just the rash that's really sore. It has improved slightly but still painful.

xxx

EllaMenoPea · 23/03/2016 16:42

Sorry robber Thanks really hope Tuesday goes well for you. What do you want out of it? (Obviously a baby!) but what course of action?

Glad you're feeling a bit better boggle

Hope everyone is OK?

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EllaMenoPea · 25/03/2016 19:00

AF has just randomly arrived naturally so I'm gonna take Clomid...wish me luck!

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Moomin37 · 25/03/2016 19:16

Ooh good luck Ella Smile

RobberBride · 28/03/2016 21:44

Good luck Ella! Also, how did your first week at work go?

Boggle I hope you're feeling better and managed to enjoy parts of Easter?

Moomin how are you feeling on microgynon?

Eskimo I hope your infection has vanished? How far along are you now, have you had a scan lately?

I've just written my questions for my appointment tomorrow. The nurse at the clinic told me the NHS treatment allowance in this area - after 6 rounds of clomid (if they make me do all 6), then I get 3 lots of injectables then 2 lots of IVF. So my questions are all about whether it is worth me continuing with clomid, and what the process is with injectables (which drugs, what dose, how many scans, do they give a trigger) and so on. I've got everything crossed they don't make me take progesterone again - provera doesn't do anything for me, and norethisterone is miserable.

Hope you're all doing ok. I'm feeling really relaxed and well after 6 days off. We had lots of lovely long walks, good food and beer, and time with my family and friends. I hope this feeling can survive the first day back at work!

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