So it's John Wayne vs Les Dawson in The Great British Pee Off and Prty's judging... get ready to be basted, lovelies!

[PrtyPsn]

Hi (big wave)
So you clicked on here cos you were looking for me (I'm flattered!) or the title seemed interesting!
I'm aware it doesn't really explain anything but we are bunch of lovely ladies all TTC and going ever so slightly crazy with it! For more info see our original thread here -

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/2412386-TTC-anxious-over-early-pregnancy-possible-symptoms?msgid=56357000#56357000

And our most recent thread here -

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/2458534-Prtys-Gang-and-The-Festival-of-Foof-Fun-when-they-not-being-cray-cray?pg=1&order=

We are symptoms spotters extraordinaire - you name it we've had it, real and/or imagined confused
We are here to help, we are all supportive, we laugh, rant, cry, joke, rage, smile, and comfort together. Be you a lurker or poster (established or new) then you are very welcome here. We only have a few rules:

1. No judgement - we all lead different lives and have different standards and that is fine. You wanna get wasted everyday of TWW, that's fine. You wanna abstain completely, that's fine. We need support, not judgement.
2. No feeling stupid - we've all had those months where we definitely think we are pg 110% convinced and then AF turns up, don't feel bad about it, it happens. Also we all have different levels of knowledge so no question is stupid apart from the one you don't ask.
3. On this thread there is no such thing as TMI - we are all adults and we all know how miraculous and amazing... and downright disgusting our bodies can be, it's fine. Share what you want, we will not be fazed.

So that's it, jump in and FX'd for all my lovelies xx

Sorry everyone is feeling down. It's a real rollers caster this TTC journey.

Shary - that is lovely. It's great your OH is so understanding.

Katie - I am sending you lots of hugs and keeping all crossed for you. How is your OH? Get him to look after you tonight.

Hippy - I am not use till Tues but definitely think I am out, cramps all day and in my thighs which is always a sign of AF. Plus it's almost easier to accept it and move on than hang on hoping, as awful as that sounds.

Flowers - thanks! He doesn't know...yet. I'm torn over if I should tell him or not. He'll know somethings up if I don't tell him, can blame work as that's stressful at the minute. But if I do tell him he'll be understand and supportive.

I'm just really worried this is the start of the tiring, hard journey I was hoping wouldn't happen. Hoping it's not signs of things to come.

Had to spend tonight in company of two pregnant relatives all talking babies, I could have cried!! Held it together though....then stuffed my face with a McDonald's when I left! I am a pig and I don't care right now.

Hello old timers :)
Seems like we're all having a hard time this month eh?

wafts breadsticks and dips at you all

According to opk I ovulated yesterday so stand by for the mental 2ww. Didn't tell OH so he didn't feel the pressure but luckily my sex drive has been increased these last 5 days (this is REALLY unusual so he better have bloody enjoyed it lol)

I'm with you shary, I've still no sign I've ov'd and it's freaking me out. BBT still averaging 36.2 with no spikes at all and CM appears to be v. wet and not a lot else... And then I consulted Dr Google, who told me horror stories of it taking two years to ov post coil...! Nevermind stepping away from the OPKs or HPTs, I just need to stop searching the net!

And yet, I'm still very gassy and getting more heartburn than before... But I've not ov'd according to my BBT so can't be pg!

Ugh. I wish someone had told me TTC was such a stressful experience before I agreed to it...

CEO's four week old grandchild was being cooed over at work today. I was firmly trying to ignore the whole thing for fear if my anxiety getting the better of me.

Rose I definitely don't think it should take 2 years to ovulate post coil removal. The copper coil has no hormones in and you would still be ovulating with it in and most women still ovulate with a mirena in too. That suggests to me some other problem causing no ovulation rather than a coil ifyswim. Try not to worry.

AF has just finished for me. DH is on nights for a week so I might put off any DTD until he finishes which will be next Friday (CD 10). Last time I got him to DTD before night shifts and it was totally functional and very unromantic. I think I will go back to ovulation sticks though just to make sure we don't miss out.

Shary your husband sounds lovely and supportive.

prty are you okay lovely?
Morning everyone - enjoy the weekend

Caved and tested again this morning: BFN

Sorry to hear that mrsflowers - this ttc really is horrible. You're not out yet though if af due Tuesday, fingers crossed for you

Sorry to hear that flowers!

I ended up telling the husband all about the drama of the chemical last night. I'm 1000% convinced it was that anyways. Basically we were on the settee and I was unusually quiet so he asked me what was wrong and it all came flooding out along with about 100 worries of other unrelated things. He was really supportive and just kept saying "why didn't you tell me sooner so I could help?"

Katy I'm pleased you told him. He sounds wonderfully supportive. What are you up to this weekend? I hope whatever you do you can take your mind off it all and try and enjoy yourself, or at least relax. It's so emotionally draining.

I'm meeting my mum today, like you Pirsy, my husband works nights, so me and her are going to look at a couple of houses. I feel I am going to have a cry on her! My OH is great but I feel it would do me good to off load on someone else for a change. I think I need to let it out and move on.

Hello ladies, just checking in on you all. Stripes - congrats Hun

Prty - get your bum back on here girl.. I've heard a rumour about chocolate oranges being dished out.. Whole.. Seriously though - hugs to you and anyone else struggling x

Morning all!

Sorry about the BFN flowers. There's still time though.

Temp up this morning so must have ovulated yesterday. Another TWW, what a thrill.

I've decided if I don't get pregnant by Christmas I will go to the GP in January to discuss my thyroid. I had a blood test last year for underactivity (my mum has thyroid problems and they can run in families) but it came back in the normal range. I didn't get to discuss it with the doctor though - a receptionist just barked "normal!" at me. I've been temping, and my BBT is really low, always under 36c pre-ovulation, and not much over post-ovulation. This can apparently be a sign of poor thyroid function, and that can cause fertility problems, so I figured it was worth more discussion at least. My understanding is that you often have to really push doctors to do anything about thyroid problems.

The OH is pretty much the only person I can unload to about these things. Especially with it seeming like half the family are pregnant at the minute so everyone is all happy, they don't want me bringing in the doom and gloom.

We're off to the cinema and out for a walk on the beach (which will probably involve fish and chips!) so got a lovely day planned. Be nice to be out and about.

I managed to resist POAS this morning (you know just to be sure!!) so thankfully no more negativity added into the mix.

morning all! Just so say, Rose, my acupuncturist says she doesn't think BBT is that reliable, and she knows of people (more than one), that have got pre when BBT has indicated no ovulation. So just thought I'd pass that on. I've been charting the last two months, and this month, although I had a 3 days bleed mid cycle, that I thought could be an ovulation bleed, I've not had a rise in temp. She said in her experience it wasn't a very reliable way after all. Weirdly, I seem to have had a rise in the last 2-3 days, plus am getting cervical mucus the last few days too. I'm worried I'm ovulating late, as my and hubby haven't DTD since over a week ago. I've just not been in the mood with all my work stress, and been under the weather. I was looking forward to Af arriving, and starting a new cycle afresh. Wish me luck that I get AF, and not a late ovulation!!

flowers, sorry about the BFN, but remember, you're not out yet at all. As I said earlier, my sister had a BFN the day before she got a BFP. xxx

MrsFlowers, definitely talk to your mum. I have talked to my mum about TTC and she had lots of pearls of wisdom and as you say it is good to offload on someone else. The most useful thing my mum has said to me is that although it seems that everyone else is pregnant that is only the people you know about and that LOTS of people have difficulties it's just you don't hear about it. I think she is definitely right. She also said that you don't realise how much your life will change once a baby arrives (I know everyone says that) so try to enjoy life as it is for now. I went to a first birthday last weekend and was looking around and some of those parents looked totally exhausted and so I just thought I shouldn't be worrying myself sick with this, I should be enjoying the time with my husband before a baby arrives and it will happen when the time is right. I am in the early part of this cycle though so feeling positive! I am also going to see houses this afternoon - good luck with your viewings!

Katie enjoy your day out - it sounds like it will be a good distraction and nice to spend some time together.

Morning everyone, happy Saturday!

I caved and POAS this morning. First time using ICs.

Didn't even get a control line, let alone anything else. It felt really flimsy though and like the paper had come apart - is that normal?

katie have a fabulous day today, I'm very jealous!

Prty your mum sounds very wise. I know one of my friends has been TTC for over a year now and it took another friend 18 months - and they're the only two people who told me they were TTC. I also know of two other "trying but not trying" couples who haven't announced their PGs yet. So it sounds like a long time TTC is the norm rather than the exception - you just never think it'll take that long for you (I certainly didn't).

Morning everyone

katy that sounds a lovely way to spend the day! I'm jealous!!
My DH is on nights this weekend too.. Boo.. He's like a bear with a sore head as don't think he likes weekend nights very much! I've just been out with the dog for a nice walk to blow the cobwebs away!!

Feeling really anxious about the whole thing this morning and wondering if it will ever fall into place.. I haven't got anyone to talk to about TTC either, tried to reach out to a friend y'day but I'm pretty sure she's avoiding me. She'd been TTC herself for a while and has had a couple of miscarriages, got a funny feeling she's PG again so avoiding me so she doesn't have to tell me just yet. Guess I'll try speak to my DH when he gets up.. Sigh.

wheres that chocolate orange?

Hi lovelies,
Sorry for the protracted abscence, combination of BFN hitting me harder than I expected, needed a bit of time to not think about it plus was away last night and wanted to focus on that.
Still no AF and I'm a day overdue. Another BFN this morning.
Starting to think those faint evaps were BFPS and the bleed was a chemical/early MC which means I'm actually a week off AF plus we missed the possible new FW (if it was MC) this cycle cos I was away for a few nights (sigh)
Congrats and commiserations, speed read so don't wanna get user names mixed up, nice to see some old faces again :)

Prty at least you can take some comfort from the fact that a) you can get PG and b) the only reason you may not be this month is because you missed your fertile window. I know it's small mercies but you have to try to look on the positive side to avoid going crazy.

Hi all day 19 of cycle here and no real symptoms to speak of, light headedness and feeling sick seems to have stopped so will wait it out 8DBFAFD

Well I had a lovely day out today. Nice to spend some time with the OH and was good to get my mind off things. One of the best days in a long time.
However since we got back this afternoon I've had horrific cramps and heavy bleeding. Been really tearful all night from the whole situation and the pain just tops if off. I feel absolutely awful. Why do our bodies do these things to us?
What my head keeps going back to is if only I'd waited one more day to POAS I wouldn't have seen the BFP and would have just thought I'd started with a particularly bad AF. Could have coped with that!

Oh Katie I'm so sorry. Don't blame yourself for testing a little early. If anything it shows that you can get Pg, but I know how dreadful you feel. I was in a similar (but slightly opposite?) situation a couple of cycles back. I was utterly convinced I was Pg, to the point I didn't think I needed to test early because all the signs were telling me so. AF turned up a day early and it was the heaviest and most painful one I've ever experienced. Not just AF cramps but shooting pains. I kept beating myself up, wishing I HAD tested early so that I would know if it was a MC or not.

Even though I'll never know one way or the other, I try to stay positive by thinking that Pg is still a possibility, but it was a difficult time. I think that may have been when I joined this lovely group.

We are here for hugs and hand holding. Look after yourself today lovely xoxo

Sorry Katy, kinda muddled up your name there. Oh and I forgot these

Thanks Aindy - don't worry about the name, my names not actually Katy or Katie so I don't mind!

I think when you're TTC you just become so in tune with your body that you know what's going on and fret over every bit.

After posting last night I tried to watch crap tv to take my head off it all and it worked till I went to bed. Spent lots of the night tossing and turning. Need to lots of working at home today for my job this week but my head is just not in it. Is it ridiculous to be so upset over something I had for less than a day?

Katy xx

All you lovely ladies will you please share with me how many days your luteal phase is? Last month mine was 12 days which I was very happy with but the month before that it was 9/10 days & it's looking at being 9/10 again this time. From that I've read that's on the short side
It's worrying me xx