Immune /natural killer cell treatment when ttc or pregnant (aka the 16th pred thread!)

[sunnyday01]

This is a thread for those diagnosed with high or very high natural killer cells and trying to concieve or are pregnant and taking steroids/intralipids etc

Newcomers very welcome

Hi all! Back from my holiday, had a lovely time and a good amount of relaxation! Aside the shooting last Sunday, not had anything else which I guess is good. I keep swinging from thinking everything is ok, to not even feeling pregnant and thinking the worst! Next scan is on Saturday so just got to get through this week!

So much has been going on, not sure I can keep up with it all!

Trying - so glad you had some embbies to freeze, but hopefully you won't need them! I wouldn't worry about having no symptoms too much as I have had various symptoms over my pregnancies and I don't think it indicates I e thing or another, plus the pred will be covering things too. Thursday will soon roll around - is that day 10?

Seeking - I saw your tweets to lumie cave and then when I saw on here that you tweeted I wondered if it was you. Hope you are doing ok.

Rosa - can't believe you're having so much negativity about the treatment - I think if it was me I'd tell them to mind their own business!! Hope your doing ok though, have you had your last scan with Mr s now?

Hope - wow can't believe you are so near. Hope you're managing to rest as much as possible before the baby arrives!

Drttc - sounds like you have lots of info, I guess it's just making a decision about what is best for you! It really is a minefield!

Hula - hope SO is going ok, have you had your Scan yet? I used to find that boots needed to order the ovitrelle but it was generally there the next day.

Sorry if I've forgotten anyone else ....

Spotting not shooting!

Morning Ladies,

Sunny - glad you had a lovely hol and no more spotting. Hope saturday bring you more reassurance.

Trying - as everyone says the meds could be completely masking symptoms (and you were nt on those prev pregs) so try not to worry. I actually had very few symptoms with ds. Well done you for not testing early. Just hang till thurs and wishing you the biggest bfp.

Rosa - what a pain in the arse the nhs are being. How can they think this attitude is helpful now ? What is supposed to be the intralipid issue ? I think at the end of the day you ve just got to go with you gut as to what is right, god knows what they ll say about 4 humira shots if i get that far !!

Afm af is here so starting femara tomorrow !

Hey sunny welcome back. Glad u had a good time and great to hear no more spotting! That's really reassuring. I'm actually 10dpo today but I'm too scared to test and wonder if maybe it will be postive tnrw or day after. I'd rather just know for sure on Thursday. I'll be equiv of 14dpo by then and if it's negative I won't be holding out any hope.
Yay hula, it's time for ur SO! Hope ur kinda looking fwd to it?!
I've had diarrhoea the last few days. Ur meant to be constipated with the progesterone. Maybe it's my nerves?! Either way it's not v nice!

Seem to missed a few posts!
Hope ur so close now. Sorry about ur preeclampsia but baby will out soon! Yay

Seeking thanks I know I shouldn't expect symtpoms but having been preg 3 times before I kinda expect some divine feeling saying u have done it! Like an intution? How r u feeling?
Drtcc hope ur feeling better and bleeding is slowing down
Xx

Intuition I mean...

I didn't 'feel' pregnant the whole time i was pregnant Trying very weird. But DrS did say that he's sseen clients with all the symptoms under the sun and bad news and vice versa. Just keep holding out, staying positive. Not long now.

I'm ok thanks everyone, had a little cry this morning. I'm so angry that i'm in this position again. And the house move is getting on my nerves as well....someone up the chain's mortgage offer expired and they didn't realise until we were all about to exchange. Fuming is an understatement!!

Glad you're back and had no more spotting Sunny, how far along will you be on Saturday? Hope this week goes quickly.

Thinking of you Drttc

Hope - sorry you have pre-eclampsia, hope the Drs are looking after you. Not long now!!

Thanks seeking! I'm trying to stay postive. I was hoping I would have an implantatiom bleed or spot. Or maybe sore boobs? But I keep prodding and nothing! To be fair my DH reminded me that 2 secs after my transfer I went "I don't feel any diff, I don't feel like my embryo is me"! When he had just showed me going into my womb! I think I'm mental
Sorry the house is being stressful too. I suppose it's a good distraction?? And ur puppy is due soon!
I've just eaten the hugest slice of red velevet pre bday cake. Comfort eating!?

Ps seeking when is ur appt with ur karotype result? How r u feeling about them?

Red velvet comfort eating sounds like the best kind of comfort eating to me
Thankfully, aside from it being a royal pain in the bum, it's also a good distraction!
The results take 3 weeks and then we book to see DrS when we've got the results. So won't be for a while.

Suppose it's good in a way it's a while. Otherwise it's too much info and emotion to process at once!

I'm really struggling today. At the clinic at my transfer they were so postive for me, and I feel like every doctor I see tells me "I'm young" and just expects this to mean I'll be ok. But I'm Over 2 years in and have nothing but failure to show for it. Me and dH actually had a chat about what a childless life would mean for us and how long we would try for. I think 35 is my limit (as will have been 7 years of this then) , then I'm selling my house and going travelling and running away to Aus or New Zealand to drink over priced wine and sit on a beach! Oh dear. I'm sure we have all felt like this at some Point?

Sorry for being a pooper! I'll be fine tmrw!

Trying .. I felt like that 4 months ago - literally exactly like that. A week before my BFP. Also tiredness aside - which kicked in at 6 weeks- I had no symptoms really until I stopped pred and sickness kicked in. But now it's gone and worried too.. I must have cyberchondria and have read all there is to read at every stage .. There's just no normal avd always something to find that reassures, but at the same time raise your anxiety. IF I could only take this advice .. Unless pain and bleeding stay away from the internet (except this forum which is morale boosting!) x
Hula.. Best of luck tomorrow. They say it can take 5 cycles but hoping you're quicker too :) x

Does anyone know if I should expect withdrawal symptoms (twinges, spotting, nausea, anything?) when I stope cyclogest ??

Trying - hope you re feeling better today. I ve definetly felt that way and like its never going to happen (in fact everytime i ve got preg its been after a month where i felt this way, almost if you ve got to hit rock bottom and kinda mentally give up before it happens). I really really hope you get some good news on thursday.

Rosa - i dont know about the symptoms after coming off cyclogest but i m guessing shouldn t be much as the placenta is so well established now it should be producing loads of its own.

Afm - started meds today and so far feeling ok. Got my scan next mon. Bit miffed when dh announced he d be away on work next tues night which will be day 11. Ov on day 12 last month so will not be impressed if that turns out to be a critical day. Does anyone know if the letrozole makes u ov earlier, later or the same ?

You ovulate 36 hours after taking it, it all depends on how big your eggs are as to when you inject it. In my first month I injected day 12 (9pm) and so ovulated day 14 ( pm/eve) but in the later months I was injecting on day 11 as my response was better and so ovulated day 14. Does that make sense?

We always DTD more than Dr s told us too though, always got a couple in before and one after just in case!

Thanks sunny, was that similar to when you would have ovulated on a natural cycle ?

Just wondering if you re eggs grow faster or not ?

I have never actually tracked when I ovulate but would guess it would be between day 14-17. My cycle was shorter by a couple of days too, I found once I stopped the pred my period would come a couple if days later - 26/27 days rather than 28/29 days.

No idea if eggs grow faster but there were a few months where I went for scan on day 11 and when I sent off the results, the answer back is that one was a good size and ready to pop at any time! I usually had one dominant one and 2 slightly smaller ones.

Hmmm thanks for that, I have ov as early as day 10 so really hope we don t miss it all together as scan isn t till day 10 and dh is also away the a few days before. Oh well just gonna have to go with it and keep fingers crossed. How r u feeling ? How many weeks will u be for the scan on saturday ?

All this SO talk sounds so interesting. What is DrS' advice about dtd when doing SO? I always worry that I'm either dtd too much or not enough. Ironically this last pregnancy was the cycle we'd dtd the least. I've always tried to stick to the Sperm Meets Egg plan but now I'm concerned perhaps it's over kill.

Is it your birthday today Trying?? Happy Birthday!!

On SO they say to try the day you ovulate and the day after, however We always did it more, I never actually asked if it was right or wrong! I've always followed the sperm meets egg plan too.

I'll be 10 weeks in Saturday. I'm liking forward to it but also completely scared. Most of the time I don't even feel pregnant which worries me massively. Just got to get through the next 4 days!

10 weeks already, that's gone quick!
I'm sure you'll be fine on Saturday lovely.
I got my NHS scan appointment through today... Hate that I'm going to have to phone and cancel it despite already having told the Dr and the midwife. It's such a slow, unorganised system.

Yes thanks seeking! I've Bascially comfort eated my way through today! My diet starts next week if it's a BFn. I've def put on a food 4/5 pounds since I started ivf and I'm
Not happy!

Sunny 10 weeks amazing! Yay. Hope sat comes soon..

Hula how annoying! But sperm survives a few days so get some DTD before too? And i rem rosa still being puzzled how she got preg coz her Dh was away. But if I were u would be frantically counting on a Calander too!

Xx

Oh seeking so sorry u got ur appt through. That's so pants ESP as u told them. Hugs