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Awesome! Could do with strengthening my nails :)

Me too Night, if dp doesn't propose soon I may ask him! Actually I wouldn't as I want him to ask

Go get him spinning! DH did ask but I wouldn't have a problem asking him (I asked him out in the first place) :) Perhaps try persuading him by pointing out that it is an excuse for a luxury holiday!

Thanks sammy I promise I won't! spinning I am doing fine thank you. I am not engaged either, I have a diamond ring that his Mum gave us which I wear on my little finger as it is tiny and we talk about getting married all the time but no proposal yet - there is always a new tool he wants to buy for work or the car goes wrong so I don't think his savings are looking too healthy atm.

Sammy, fuck me, why on Earth has it taken them nearly 2 yrs to check that sperm is meeting egg! Sometimes a man can have a great sa result but private DNA drag test shows high fragmentation. Don't be alarmed as this is only summat you'd worry about if ivf kept failing. You are at the very earliest stages of investigation. Fucking terrible you are not further along, but then again you haven't been trying for two years yet. Plus, weren't there doubts about whether you had been mistiming sex for yonks

Lucie, do not test tomorrow. Not one of my ivf buddies tested before 7dp5dt. Stop feeling pressure to test. Will your torment be over tomorrow if it's bfn? No. The torment of 'what if?' is even worse.

I hate this job.

*frag test, not drag test!

Sammy my dh had a more in depth test at the clinic to see if we would need iui, ivf or icsi. They look at more parameters (like if they are still wiggling after 24hours!) but fragmentation and immune issues would be private tests I'm afraid :-(

I got an antique engagement ring for £150 from Canada. It is far superior to the expensive shite some women wear on their fingers. I love that there is a history to my ring and often wonder which Edwardian lady was wearing it and what became of her I'd love it if she was a prozzie come good

Ooh pic of your ring please Purdie! Love the idea of an antique ring but DH likes bling so ended up with a standard solitaire. Love the art deco etc designs. I do love my ring now I have it though and wouldn't change it now!

Hi all,

Sorry to those AF has nabbed.

Lucie, I really hope it was just twerly, and you get your BFP soon.

I rang 111 last night & she sent me to A&E. They did various tests & found my white blood count was high, which means I am fighting inflammation. I saw a Dr who then referred me to the gynaecologist.

He rooted around for a bit, which made the pain ten times worse, then said he thinks I had a cyst growing on my ovary which has now burst. The fluid leaks out & causes all the swelling & pain.

He thinks it is that rather than OHSS, but the only way to know for sure is see how I get on next month. He just told me to rest & take painkillers & it should get better in a few days. If not, I have to go back.

Sorry for me, me, me post, but I am feeling a bit sorry for myself at the minute.

We should start an engagement/wedding ring pic post on FB. I could look at rings all day! DH always calls me a magpie!

Nomio, goodness you're really going through it. You did the right thing phoning 111, fx the AB's kick in soon and you feel better

Oh no nomio really sorry to hear that. I hope is eases for you soon

I'm going to up my EPO this cycle(once AF actually rocks up) and get on the grapefruit juice- I have to feel I'm doing something!

Lucie - 10dpo is too early! Keeping my finger crossed for you in a couple of days time.

Purdie - you just summed up how I feel about it! It's the last thing they test before referring to fertility specialist here! See my dilemma?
I think we're going to wait for the nhs test though, the way I see it, that's £425 towards IVF if the nhs rounds fail, and £425 for baby stuff if it's successful! (Please remind me of this next month when I'm crying that we should have paid privately).
Do you think it's worth doing the frag test before treatment just in case? Anyone know how much it is.

Sorry, perhaps I should be asking this on an infertility thread??

Nomio I'm so glad you got checked out, but sorry the treatment is just rest. Hope you feel better soon.

I'm getting annoyed that af hasn't arrived yet now. The cramps were so bad yesterday and with a temperature drop this morning I know she's coming.... Just hurry up!!!! Xx

Sounds horrible nomio :( sending and

No Sammy, a frag test is not summat you'd consider having done before you've established whether sperm is meeting egg. Be patient and wait for the Hycosy. You have already gone through the worst bit in imo: almost 2 yrs of ttc naturally. It sucks balls, but I do wonder how well-timed all those cycles were (that goes for all of us before we temped).

nomio, you poor baby. No wonder you've been in pain. I don't like the sound of this on top of your shit lp's. What's next for you if this thing clears up?

I strongly suspect tomorrow will be my last day. Even if Friday's meet with my job coach reveals my family will be, say, £400 better off per month for me working, I will not consider that worthwhile. I miss Nancy far too much.

Basically I don't know what the fuck I want out of life. First it was a baby. Then I wanted a job and some self esteem AND another baby. Now I want another baby and not to work in shitty, mind numbing, fat-arsed, interminable-future-ahead IT.

Yeah Purds you're right. There were questions over timings, esp if I ov that long after pos opks every month! Yes, I think we are going to wait till August sigh

Well you've given the job a fair go now, so fair enough if it's not for you. I do think you need to do something though, you weren't happy just being a stay at home mum. A few hours in a shop maybe? Or a cafe? Or (if that would mess up the benefits and make you worse off) some part time volunteer work for a charity maybe? My sister did some part time office work for a charity once... Xx

Just had the crappiest of crappy afternoons at work, had somebody very angry and upset about something that's outside of my control but that I had to convey to them as their line manager, they made me feel utterly shit about it crappity crap crap day

Sorry for the totally "me" post, I just needed to vent!

nomio . Sorry you've been ill. If it was a cyst and not ohss does this mean it's a one off? Or is it likely to be something underlying?

purdie I've been in jobs I've hated before and I know how hard it is. Life is too short to spend most of your day caged in doing something you don't enjoy. However, you're two weeks into an eight week placement, yes? Do you think you could hang on in there for the next six weeks, as you know there's a finish line at the end? It'll fly by! Completing the placement would look fab on your cv. I know it's easy for me to say though.

I got a temp rise this morning! Shitty broken thermometer at least gave me a shift! Now I can sit back, relax and enjoy the tww lol

Have discovered what you all mean by your cervix moving (thought you were all crazy up to now )! Went up today and it was so high could barely reach it so have recorded that on FF. Will start adding that into my data each day :)

Woolly - sorry you've had a rubbish day It's horrible when you have to be the messenger for bad news. Hope tomorrow's a better day for you. Xx

woolly sorry you've had a crappy day!

dizzy glad you've got your temp rise lovely!!

Purdie sorry if I've missed something - why are you leaving the placement Friday? Is it that awful? I agree if you could get through it, it would be great on your cv to show some work in the last 8 years and that could lead into a job you love! What about working in a women's hostel? You've been through it all and could be a real support to women in a tough place. Either way, I hope you're happy because that's what life is about!

Thank you for all the sympathy, and .

The gynae said that the cyst thing is just a one off & could happen to anyone, so I am clinging to the fact that I was just unlucky and it doesn't mean anything!

Woolly, sounds like you need some . Here ya go!

Purdie, do you have a plan for what to do next? I know you are not happy in this job, but you weren't happy being a SAHM either. I wish I could just wave a magic wand & find you the perfect part time job!

Sammy, I had no idea how long you had been trying. I completely sympathise with how fed up you are feeling. It is so unfair when you are doing everything right & still don't get your longed for BFP. At least you are moving in the right direction now though, and if there is a problem, you can take steps to fix it.

Reading up some stats and there is more of a chance of a mmc (3%) than conveiving twins naturally (2%). I wish no women ever had to go through any loss, let alone one like that of a mmc.