We let our miroids tie us up, and pee while we're in the tub, and the grads often visit, so we can give their bumps a rub! We've a syncro pee approaching, so here's hoping, for a BFP filled JS No 42!!

[lildottie]

Ladies, Fred title says it all; we are the ones who shag as much as our men can cope with in order to get upduffed without the stress of scientific whatnots!

Fred rules (copied and adapted from previous Fred)

1. Thou shalt shag as much as humanly possible in order to get upduffed.
2. Thou shalt not partake of OPKs, temping, or charting.
3. Thou shalt keep symptom spotting to a minimum.
4. Thou shalt share with your fredmates where needed.

JSing lingo

ERTD = Evil Red Tide of Dooooooommmmmmm. Or AF to most others. Also know as 'the witch', 'bitch witch' and 'that one with the red shiny convertible'

Viroid = This is you, dear poster. This is from the first JS thread when someone tried to type 'ladies' and it autocorrected to 'Viroids' - so there you go!

Pant snot = Egg white cervical mucus.

Doing a kitten = Getting upduffed soon after joining (warning: may induce envy in other posters).

POAS = Pee On A Stick (of the pregnancy detecting kind, not from a tree). Also known as PIAR (Pee In A Ramekin - cos we're posh birds innit). Or PIATLH (Tea light holder) PIAWG (Wine glass) or anything else you care to pee in! PONF = Pee on Nigel Farage. Self explanatory, who wouldn't?

ROC - Receptacle of Choice - what one chooses to use for the task of POAS. Optional decorations include photographs of controversial political leaders.

JIAC = Jizz in a Cup. Preferable to jizz on the carpet or jizz in the eye. This one's for the lucky men in our lives.

Shagging like Something = JSing like a teenage nymphomaniac.

Giving a hooya = Giving a much needed slap to a fellow poster in danger of slipping into ttc obsession. Warning - this may happen to you if you start trying to POAS at 5dpo. PUT. THE. PISSY. STICK. DOWN. IT'S TOO EARLY!

Contraband (or Cuntraband) = Of COURSE none of us EVER partake of any silly OPKs or temp charting. They are Contraband.

Icing = ovulating. Another autocorrect development!

Getting your Cape on = planning some serious pouncing on DH/DP

SOTM = Shagger of the Month. Awarded with varying regularity to those viroids who go above and beyond EOD shagging in pursuit of that BFP

TWOT - Two Weeks of Torture. AKA Schroedingering!
TWPU - Two Week Piss Up!

Keeping your gingers = fingers crossed, yet another autocorrect development! Shortened to 'gx'

Doing A Lemon = Testing WAAAAAAAY to early!

Miroid - The male compadre of a viroid 

Cat - Compulsory 

The link to Part 41 is <a class="break-all" href="//www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/2334008-Were-sorry-about-your-fanny-here-have-a-balloon-We-might-use-cock-rings-and-ear-needles-but-we-definitely-dont-use-contraband-to-get-us-upduffed-its-Just-Shagging-thread-41?msgid=53430680#53430680" target="_blank">Here</a>

The current Grads Fred is <a class="break-all" href="//www.mumsnet.com/Talk/antenatal_clubs/2334723-With-our-swamp-fanjos-and-supermarket-jobbies-its-all-going-on-in-our-knickers-Its-a-wonder-our-men-agree-to-deliver-the-prostaglandin-injections-but-then-we-are-the-24th-Just-Shagging-Grads?msgid=53223726#53223726" target="_blank">Here</a>

The current Mumming Fred is <a class="break-all" href="//www.mumsnet.com/Talk/postnatal_clubs/2323427-Just-Mumming-Along-Viroids-4" target="_blank">Here</a>

The rather nobbish article in which we became a little bit notorious is <a class="break-all" href="//www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/the-dark-side-of-mumsnet-my-shocking-tour-of-the-websites-nether-regions-8905055.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Here</a>

We are the dark side of MN. Welcome.

Yoy ran? you mean

Congrats Daisy! I'm loving these bank holiday bfps.

Morning shaggers.

Congrats daisy. Seems lil makes luckier Fred's than me.

*lil" if you have decided to test you probably already have bit all I wold say is to echo others. If you can handle a bfn at 10DPO then go for it. Remember (in a sensitive way) you were pg with twins before so your HCG would have been higher. What ever you decide good luck.

honey just wait. It gets so much better. Do you like reading? The books are amazing.

Nice name change again aur.

I'm unable to sleep! Bank holiday weekend and I'm wide awake. The witch is still here slightly so no shagging. Can't wait for her to be gone.

If I go to the doctor and say I've been TTC for a year (lies) would they say because I've only been off the injection for 13 months I need to go back later do you think?

Fail meant to say lil

Morning!

Lil I've answered your question on grads thread x

Sunshine I'm gutted for you - really thought it was your month, boo to witch!

Congratulations daisy! Come over and say hi on grads when you feel ready (and you 5hell)

Jelly you know what I'm going to say. Your cycles are stabilising and you only got af back in nov. I've been through the investigations and that's the first thing they will ask - and they will count your year from then, not from when injection stopped. You know in your heart too that you're jumping the gun. You're young still so you're not up against the dreaded bio clock so I would sit tight and just keep shagging. I went to doc and was told in no uncertain terms to go away until a year of ttc properly had passed. Once that happened I went back and they then carried out the tests. Even then though they won't intervene for a while (I was told another 6 months to year) because everything looked normal.

Your cycles are heading the right way. As with anything else that is worth waiting for in life you need to be patient, it will come.

Jelly. I know you feel frustrated and that you are worried that something is wrong. But your body has been working so hard to get itself ready for pregnancy for you, this was the first month that you could feasibly have become pregnant, so you have only really had one shot! Don't give up on your body now, she is ready to carry a baby for you. Go at it with renewed shagging vigour this month, and the next few months if necessary and you will get your BFP. , and Easter eggs for you too xx

Congratulations daisy.

Thanks niffer takes bow change is as good as holiday although I wouldn't say no to a holiday right now either
would I have a friend who had arthritis since she was about ten! Her whole family suffers from it. There is a small percentage of people who have autoimmune diseases who improve drastically with pregmancy because of your own body's lowering of immune reactions to accommodate the pregnancy successfully and not expel what is essentially a foreign object and parasite in the body. She became asymptomatic during her first pregnancy and although her symptoms returned again, after her second pregnancy when she became asymptomatic again her arthritis never returned! Her kids are now in their late teens and early twenties and she still has no symptoms. It is documented and I think it is about 5% of autoimmune sufferers who become asymptomatic during pregnancy. So there is a good reason (if you needed another one!) to have a baby. You might be in the lucky 5%!

Ta much jelly too! contemplates next month's name change

thanks la and pud i know i'm being "impatient" I just think if we are doing all this and it turns out there's something wrong with me or DP it seems such a waste of time or effort...

any news lil

well I wasn't going to but dh wanted me too. I'm calling bfn but he thinks he can see something. he is kidding himself.

oh and jelly I doubt they will do anything until a year after AF returned either, but I understand the time thing and that's why I think get dh to ask Dr for an SA and if Dr won't do it ask for private test.

Oooh, viroids, solid smiley on cb opk sticks and temp dip on chart! Ovulation is occurring! How excited am I! Only thing is we're staying at my grandpa's and even stealth shag out of the question this morning... We dtd yesterday am and will have a crack tonight when we'll be at his parents, will still need to be stealthy... Should that have things covered?

I'm so pleased normality seems to be returning quite quickly after MC!

Daisy congrats and stats please! All these Easter bfps, how lovely!

Lil hang in there and wait a few days! Everything crossed for you! Except my legs, I need those akimbo due to ovulation...

congrats on icing niff you should have it covered shagging tonight :)

lil maybe leave it a few days? or post a pic so we can analyse My Jelly isn't interested in talking about it at the moment so if I suggest going for a SA he will probably laugh at me...

Stats (not sure I'm doing this right)

Cd1 3rd March iced approx 18th March dtd 17th&18th both stealth shags

Only symptoms I had was bit of nausea, dizziness, farting and funny smelling wee
Hope that's everything!

damn you with the funny smelling wee daisy!!! that's what made me test early!

jelly tell I said he should go for the sa! then its not ur suggestion. and in the oracle after all! haha. how old is he?

Glad I'm not the only one who caved this morning. Did an IC. Squinted a lot. Not really certain either way. Got to try and hold off for a couple of days now like that's going to happen such a lack of willpower over here!

runs in to fuel crazy

my wee smells funny and CB digi says I'm 3+ weeks

runs out

jelly lovely that your DP is so good with babies...defo a sign ;) here's hoping AF buggers off soon so you can JS like a goodun

So we need a symptoms list:

Bendiness
Farts
Skittletits
Kind dogs
Nausea
Farts
Funny-smelling wee
Faintness
Farts

Anything I've forgotten?

Sorry lil but I'm putting it down to developing the same sense of smell of a sniffer dog

I also forgot to add I got 3 bfn before I got a faint line hence why I got one line and binned it was only when I rechecked them

I am still pos

5hell do you think you were pg all this time?? :)

I don't smell my wee...am i weird?

lil he's 24 so he's a young guy. Healthy BMI but terrible diet. Doesn't smoke, rarely drinks, never done drugs, but as you know these things aren't always indicative of a problem, nor is lack of these things a sign that things are good. I'll tell him you said to get himself check out!

Niff we don't need a list of symptoms, we aren't supposed to be symptom spotting!!!

aux funnily enough in my last pregnancy I felt amazing until SPD got me and I felt like I'd been cured! Loved being pregnant for that! Pain isn't as bad today so feeling more optimistic that it's just a flare and I'm not going downhill again - I will get over this and get my BFP next cycle!!

On a side note I do love you ladies already, I love that you are all so supportive of each other while staying factual at the same time. It's refreshing to see people being genuine.

Contraband may or may not be on its way, hoping to do as someone said before and using cheapies along with CB digi just to see what I should be looking for. I'm still new to all this so understand cycle length and dpo etc, but still have no idea what the other stuff means. Lunier/lutial/lunar?! Something like that lol

Jelly why do we ask everyone for their symptoms then?!? And agonise over how our wee smells? And you don't sniff yours? Weirdo!

Wine it's me that was doing ic's along with cb digis. Typically though I'm away this w/e and didn't bring any ic's with me, and I got +ve on digis this morning. So none the wiser, but hopefully I've got an eggie on the way so who cares really...