TTC 10 months plus, supporting each other and staying positive. Another BFP one of course :-)

[victoria401]

New thread for the rest of us to get our BFP's on, by whatever means!!!

[Mamama31]

Oh Lil so sorry to read this! Be kind to yourself and make sure to be a comfort to eachother. Big hugs to you x

[lildottie]

thanks mama

how's everyone doing? having good weekend I hope?

[Metalhead]

Hey lil, hope you're feeling ok under the circumstances. I've had a nice weekend so far, we went out for an Indian meal with my parents on Friday, then some lunch in town yesterday and now they've gone back home we're just settling down with DD to watch a Disney movie!

DH and I had to do lots of stealth shagging this week as I'm having a rather long cycle again and didn't ov until Saturday, about a week later than I thought. I think I've now come up with a plan of how to go forward: give natural ttc another really good shot for the next 3 months (including really cutting down on booze and caffeine), then go for initial appointment at a clinic with a view to giving IVF our one and only shot after our holiday in August. Now I'll just have to discuss it with DH and start saving...

[victoria401]

Hiya. Yesterday me and friend went to Bath for the day for a bit of a tourist/shop day. Then me and dh watched the usual The Voice, Take Me Out, Casualty combo.

Today we've been for a massive carvery and food shop and now just chilling on the sofa with a cuppa tea whilst the wind and rain rages outside. Livin the dream!

[Hezbez85]

Hi I'm new to the forums but I've been ttc for 17months now. I need some help please. Ive had all the tests and i have low progesterone and so dont ovulate. My last period was December 2014 on Provera and before that was June 2014. I was desperate to get my periods going and ovulate (whilst waiting for my referral) so took soy isoflavones from last friday to tuesday. I got 2 positive opks on tuesday and wednesday but have been spotting since tues and had no increase in temp so dont think they're right. Today i have started what seems to be a period so my question is should i take the soy isoflavones again from cd3 - 7 or see what happens?? Help! Thanks :)

[lildottie]

hi hez, I can't help with Si I'm afraid but hopefully one of the others can.

Vic metal you've had much nicer weekends than me. I've been working

I'm doing ok thank metal. having sad moments rather than feeling constantly sad. not sure if that's healthy but I don't have time because I've got so much work atm. would love a week to wallow!

[Lauraqc]

So sorry to hear your news Lil and hope you're bearing up x

[Nonconformist34]

Hi everyone, sorry I've been AWOL for a while but had a few months off mumsnet to look after poorly parents. I'm sick of hospitals already this year but now it's my turn! Luckily they are all getting better, relieved they don't know about our fertility issues as we had to delay our next rounds because of them. They would have felt so guilty.

Have tried to read back to catch up with you all. Hi to all the newbies and 'originals'
Lil So sorry to hear about your news. I'm amazed by your positive way of dealing with it thought, you are an inspiration to us all.
Vic and Laura How's everything with you? Mama Good to see you're with us.

Well, I'm ringing up the fertility clinic today to book my cd5 baseline scan for our next round of IUI. It's our second round but we've both decided that if it doesn't work we'll skip the third and will go straight to IVF the following month. We just want to go for it, fed up of having everything on hold, I turn 35 next month and nearly losing family has put everything into perspective. We both haven't drank alcohol this year, DH is caffeine free and we've upped protein and reduced carbs plus doing acupuncture. WE WILL GET PREGNANT THIS YEAR!!!!!!! (apologies for the rant).

[Metalhead]

Hi hez, I don't know about the bleed but I've read that you should wait about 5 days after your last dose of soy before starting to use opks as otherwise you can get false positives, which I suspect is what happened for you.

Sorry to hear about your parents non, but glad they're all on the mend now. Good luck with your next round of IUI, hopefully this will be the one.

Glad you're doing ok lil, though working on a weekend isn't much fun!

I'm in the 2ww again now, AF due 7 March. Decided yesterday to give up the acupuncture, I've been going for around 6 months now and none of the things she said she could help with (period pains, sore boobs after ov) have improved so I don't think it's working for me. Might just spend the money on some nice relaxing back massages instead!

[Hezbez85]

Thanks for getting back to me. It is a full blown period but I'm still ecstatic because I haven't been having regular ones (6months in between generally).

I'm so sorry lildottie to hear what you've gone through (I've only just read some of the other posts)

I've decided to not take the soy again at the min and just wait it out. Maybe il ovulate this cycle :) I'm going back to the dr's this week for our infertility referral but would like to do it naturally if poss.
I'm so glad I found this thread because sometimes you just need to talk to people who are going through the same thing you are. X

[Metalhead]

Hmm just as I've cancelled my acupuncture because I thought it wasn't working it seems that this month I don't have sore boobs post ov...

[victoria401]

Afternoon ladies!

Just waiting as usual. DH's sa is coming up in a couple of weeks, but because of last months shorter cycle the results will be pointless. Because of when cycle dates now fall amongst other commitments, we wouldn't be able to have IUI (if sperm good enough) until late May. IF they come back bad again then we would have to make an IVF appointment. I have a feeling they will be bad as DH has made bugger all changes to his lifestyle and is feining illness again. I can't remember the last time he has felt healthy. It really bugs me that he has this relatively new hypochondria. He has been to the docs a few times over the last few weeks and has had lots of blood tests and blood pressure/ECG's taken. Today he's going for a chest xray in his lunch break! I think he thinks he has lung cancer or throat cancer or something. I think all the "funny turns" he's having are panic attacks because he's thinking too much about it. At least this worry has made him deffo not smoke! I just wish he'd buck up his ideas start living! To cheer him up I asked him what he was looking forward to most on our holiday and he replies "If I make it that long"!!

non I hear you sister, I turn 35 in 2 months time :-( Good luck with the next IUI.

[BertieBoo10]

Hi all!

Sorry for such a slow reply, I work as a nurse so my shifts have been all over the place recently. Thank you for your warm welcomes honestly just watching your thread alone is helpful. You all have such a positive attitude I'm truly hoping I can soak up some of the positiveness as I'm really not feeling it right now.
My age is another thing which gives me concern, mostly as I see close friends and family of the same age and older conceiving and it does worry me that if im struggling now as I get older I'm only going to struggle more. I'm 24 and my partner is 28 so relatively young and after 17 months of trying I'm struggling to understand what is going wrong. I'm currently 2 days overdue AF and to be honest with you I'm genuinely imagining things, I truly think when you want something so badly you go stir crazy over thinking things. I've all but become a hermit over recent days. My OH seems to think somethings going on because I'm so quiet but I honestly don't know what to say any more. I just want to sit in silence, I don't especially want affection (when normally I constantly crave it). I think I'm just fed up with it all. I spoke with a friend a few days ago about the testing that she went through and bless her she made it sound bearable. I just worry that I'd be laughed away from my GP on the basis of my age when there clearly must be something going awry after such a long period of time. I say this at the risk of sounding bonkers but how did you even start that conversation with your GP, I'm rather a private person when it comes to myself I just handle things myself and that's that no fuss. So the idea of having to go and tell all to someone just makes me cringe a little. I worry what they will do there and then. Basically, I worry a great deal and I like to know and plan everything I can and the idea of going into my GP not knowing what they will say or do does scare me.

Feeling rather ridiculous now! I spend my days looking after critically ill children yet I'm a darn wreck when it comes to looking after myself.

[Hezbez85]

Hi bertieboo. When I went to the drs the first time it was more to do with not having periods. I felt better when I got there because I got a female dr. I just told them I'd not had a period for 4 months (at the time that I went) and that I was worried because we were trying to conceive. They didn't laugh me out the door but started booking tests straight away. I had lots of blood tests and an ultrasound but at the time everything came back normal (they didn't test my progesterone). I had a break from all the tests for a month or so and had 2 consecutive periods so thought everything was back to normal until they disappeared again. I went back for fertility stuff the second time and just told them how long we had been trying and all the stuff I had had looked at before. They instantly said they would get us an infertility referral but that was December and we have only just completed all our tests to get the referral sent. My DH's test results were absolutely fine but my progesterone is low so I don't ovulate. I'm just waiting for my appointment now. My worry is if I do need IVF in my area you can only have it on the NHS upto the age of 30 and I turn 30 in August. Hope some of this helps :)

[lildottie]

hi Bertie in my area you can't be referred before 2 years unless there is an indicator of infertility. my Dr agreed to do progesterone, amh and rubella blood test fore (one test) and 2 sa's for dh. I booked an appointment with the nurse for blood test for 7 days before AF was due (only day 21 if you have a 28 day cycle) and I phoned number we were given to book in sa's for dh. results took 2 weeks to come back And after dhs second bad sa my Dr referred us even though we'd "only" been ttc 18mths. that was Feb and we saw fc in April. I was booked in for an ultrasound, then had to book hsg to check tubes 24hours after stopping bleeding but before cd10. hsg is an xray with contrast. very uncomfortable but short and not painful. we started ivf cycle 28th December the same year (2014). so 12mnths after I first visited gp in Dec 13. you can check waiting lists in your area on hfea website.

age is on your side so don't panic. you may find you have no issues but dh does, and I've discovered that's not the end of the world after dhs sa went from 5% motility and 3% morph in Jan 14 to 79% motility and 15% morph - normal ranges - in Jan 15. our ivf worked but I mc so I'm hoping dhs improved numbers will give us our longed for sticky bfp

Vic at least he's stopped smoking, even if it comes with a downside. can you use the hypochondria to your advantage, "I've read 1000mg vit c a day can prevent and cure cancer" and such like

[BertieBoo10]

Hi

Yes I've had a look and it has differing opinions they offer bloods etc after a year of trying and then further treatment after two years but if they find nothing at the two years they encourage another year of trying then IVF can be considered. I just like to know ahead of time what I can expect and where I can go with it. Shall just have to keep waiting, I think my age is the reason I don't want to leave stuff as in our area it's 23-29 years for IVF criteria (unsure if that Englandwide) so I'm 24 this year. another year of trying on whatever takes me to 25. Then another year of trying to fulfill ivf criteria 26...just feel I'm getting close if I leave it and leave it. Perhaps it's me being worrysome. Ahh well. A lady in another thread has started the process so I'll be watching that thread with interest.

[lildottie]

it really annoys me that if ivf is the recommended course they delay it, your chances with ivf or natural conception only decline with age, so if it turns out there is a problem with you why delay it!!

[BertieBoo10]

I know it's ridiculous. Money saving I suppose, I guess they hope the longer the leave it the less likely they'll have to interfere. I do genuinely worry about being laughed out of the GP due to me looking so much younger than I am there I'll be too worried to go again! I over think things. Too many damn loopholes to jump through..

[victoria401]

I hope you're all ok and are having a pleasant weekend :-)

desperate attempt to keep thread alive

[Metalhead]

Hi vic, how are you doing? I've had a very nice day today despite AF rocking up two days early yesterday. Got an old friend over the weekend and all went out for lunch, then a lovely walk in the sunshine.

I'm pretty much resigned to the fact that we won't have another baby now, and maybe that's for the best. DD has been a bit more challenging again recently and I honestly don't know how I'd cope with a baby on top of that.

[victoria401]

It was a lovely day yesterday wasn't it. Me and dh went for a walk too along the stream looking out for birdies and squizzles.

Sorry to hear you've 'given up' ttc metal but I fully understand why. We didn't 'try' this month and I feel like a different woman. No 2ww, no symptom spotting, no hopes dashed. I feel happy and relaxed. I'd rather feel like this all the time. Also because I know we wouldn't have any treatment until at least May, because of other factors, the pressure feels off. I've always said I'd take my nhs allowance but no more, we wouldn't pay. Acceptance is a good thing. Best wishes to you and I hope you can little 'un under control ;-)

[Metalhead]

Thanks vic, she's been quite good so far this weekend - the massive chocolate brownie for pudding yesterday probably put her in a good mood!

We're still ttc for the moment as im not quite ready yet to give up completely, and I do still symptom spot, but I didn't feel the same crushing disappointment this month as deep down I'm not expecting a positive outcome anymore. Not sure if that makes any sense...

Anyway, another sunny day here so feeling positive today!

[victoria401]

Yeah it makes sense, I went through a renewed hopfulness after my hsg but that's gone now as I know its dh's crap sperm not anything to do with my tubes.

Raining here, urgh

[Lindsay81]

Hi girls- also thought i'd post as a wee update and to keep our thread going! Have read back a bit and see everyone having their own ups and downs, I think about you all often :)

Updates from me:

1. On IVF waitlist and we have been told will likely be called late summer with treatment October. We are still a bit on the fence about IVF but I actually think that if nothing happens by then we will probably go for it.
   

1. I am on my second cycle of letrozole which is working like a dream. Lengthened my luteal phase to 12 days, from an average of 8. We couldn't really TTC the first cycle annoyingly as I was called away with work at short notice. Fingers crossed for this one (currently cd2).
   

1. We saw DHs SA numbers at the IVF meeting (before we just new they were fine) and his count was 110mil and his motility 81%... this has given him some sort of new lease of libido! LOL! I think he still had some worries in the back of his head that he may have had some issues.
   

The biggest change for me happened a couple of weeks ago when I realised just how much all of this was affecting DH :-( I don't know what, but something sort of changed and I have just given up everything. It sounds sad but it's honestly not, I feel like I've been released from prison or something! LOL! I feel like I felt two years ago- it would be nice and let's just see what happens. I wish I knew what actual thought process I went through because I'm sure that would be helpful to some people! Lol Perhaps the fact that IVF is there for us and I've just kind of resorted to that in my head? Who knows!

Anyway, am slightly hungover today so am heading back to the couch! Love of love to all xxx

[Mamama31]

Lindsay our review ivf app is april with treatment due to start around oct/nov time depending on the waiting list! So we could be starting around the same time. Of course hoping it happens for us naturally before then! Wherever your living also has shocking waiting times for treatment! It's inbelievable that some