Rolling rolling rolling, the February bus is still rolling!

[juneybean]

Here we are...

Autumn, sorry it looks like af is on its way. I hate that dull ache! I also hate the locked up hpt's!!

2 hours wow! Maybe that's why smep says carry on after peak

spinning are you sitting down? At 43 we have a 1% chance of conceiving each cycle (5% at 40) Everyone else below 30 has a 20% chance each cycle. Remember though that those stats don't include those of us swimming in sperm, charting temps, using opks and otherwise taking charge of their fertility.

IVF will always yield more and better quality eggs and ergo potentiate better embryos and lower rates of miscarriage.

sparkly FF will be discombobulated with my data this month for sure. I usually ov day after surge but have been known to only get temp rise two days after. The pains yesterday point to ov last night, but how can that be??

What happens between 30-40 purdeyone ? What does my 20% drop down to?! I'm 30 in July!

You are still a twenty-percenter, love

27% if bum is on pillow!

Juney, the only obstacle you have (and some would say it isn't an obstacle if your timing is brill) is that you are only getting one offering of sperm in your fertility window. But you have supersperm! The best. And you are young utter bitch

mummy thanks for the over-forty link yesterday. The writer reckons I shouldn't be on supps if I'm on Clomid Nomio...?

Spinning I feel the same with those kinda carbs.. Sluggish! And I need things to enhance my little precious energy I have not deplete it! Hope acupuncture is great today!

autumn so sorry there's nothing worse than the impending doom aches and pains.. But they are also similar to early preg so don't give up hope yet!

Purds what happened to your go with the science OPK attitude?! I honestly don't see how you can have OVd yesterday? Either way-- don't stress! Because no matter when you did you covered all bases! Especially with today's extra top up!!

Purdooo my stats I got given were slightly different..
30% chance first month, 59% in four and 80% chance in six and 85% in 12 months Juney .. But obviously That's not taking into account charting OPKs etc so Juney you are gonna be one of the 30%

Purdey pie.. Check about the cross over with clomid and all those supps then please !

excellent news, I will get pregnant this month third time lucky and all that!

Sperm is with DHL apparently... Could be worse could be shittylink.

Love that DHL has your spermies! How excited are you?

Mummy, why do you think the SMEP encourages us to have the final sex session three days after ov? I'm so puzzled by this.

Purdey so is the IVF that much cheaper without the DE? I know I got preggo last month but am wondering if at 43 and 47 we should just crack on with IVF route and give that a try. Do you have to stay in Prague for a week or so? We haven't had any tests done yet as we've only been TTC since November. DP would love a child of his own but he's not as driven as I would be had I not had my 2 DCs. Do you have to have a load of tests first? Sorry for all the questions!

Very excited but very nervous with regards to the liquid nitrogen! Might lose a finger...!

Purd smep says three days after first positive OPK not actual OV though? Maybe it's for weirdos like me with my mutant late OV and strange temp behaviours??

Scrap that that's not true is it. It's day of + next day next again miss a day then again.. So yeh it technically should be quite far after OV .. But again, it could be for the mutants amongst us. Exhibit A: Sparklypants

Fertility, age and chances of conceiving

SMEP: is the shagging post-ov to cover all bases in case you actually ov'd later than you thought?

Purdey - you are sloshing with spunk! This has to be your month petal!

Thanks for the link Purdey - Christ 90% of eggs are abnormal at our age? That's depressing. I noticed the other old bird of 45 on the October ante-natal thread (not that I've been stalking it or anything!) has miscarried too. I wonder if there is any point in doing IVF with your own eggs at our age - was that the conclusion you reached? Have you seen the old birds conception thread? There are few upduffed but there are a lot of mcs and cps too.

Wow that information is pretty scary purdey! Wish men were more informed about these things, my DH was happy to wait into our thirties to start (bearing in mind we want 2-3 children) until I forced the facts down his throat.

Mustbemad, the worst part of IVF - and the most frustrating - is the heap of tests and the couple of scans and the pain of paying for drugs which all has to be carried out before you even fly over. If you are using donor eggs (huge success rates; massive) you will have to be at the clininc in Prague on the same day your partner gives his sperm sample (the donor will have been stimmed with drugs, along with you, in order to synchronise your cycles). Her eggs are harvested, mated with his sperm and then watched via time-lapsed video using an embryoscope to ascertain the winners. Five days after egg collection they transfer the two best embryos into your uterus. We flew home the same day, but got their too early - three days before egg collection - because we wanted to make a holiday of it.

Lots of women with Important Jobs and whose husbands have Important Jobs simply cannot spend all that time together abroad and so the fella flies out to give his sperm, flies back the same day and then the woman flies out the night before transfer and flies home as soon as the embryos are on board

I would think very, very carefully about using own eggs at 43 - unless you have loads of money and can hack returning time and again to Prague for more attempts.

Mustbemad, I have been stalking too, and I am ashamed to admit I put that lady down for a miscarriage right away. I've been knocking around long enough to know it simply does not happen (hardly) that 45 year-olds fall pregnant and deliver a live baby. Halle berry (46), Helen Fielding (44 & 48) et al all had donor egg IVF but refuse to admit it.