TTC for ten months, and the rest. Ten plussers welcome.

[MrsGingerbread]

A friendly and welcoming thread full of lovely women.

Thanks spinning it means a lot x

Lucie - hope you're feeling a bit better today? There are still some there, it's not over yet lovely.

FF confirmed ovulation today as cd19! So I'm cd22 now, which makes me 3dpo.

This is about 3 days later than expected making predicted ET date 9th/10th October rather than 6th. Xx

Hi Sammy, glad your ovulation is all confirmed now. It won't be long until your transfer and I have such a good feeling for you. I'm feeling ok just wish those 2 bigger follicles hadn't disappeared as if they were still there I would have been pretty happy with the numbers now it just all seems pretty low. I'm going to try and stay positive and get all packed up this morning as we are leaving for the airport at 3pm. Hopefully my scan in the morning will show some nice growth in there.

Lucie - I don't really trust your uk clinic after what you put below. Please update us with your Czech scan results if you can? Xx

Ok yes will do Sammy. I'm praying that awful woman is wrong. If she is I will never go there again!!

Hopefully you don't have to go back there at all Lucie. I am crossing everything for you. I am sure you will get more than 4 (I think Shellster got 4 though and look what happened to her!) You had a really good fertilisation rate last time, I'm sure you'll be coming back with a couple of lovely blasts on board.

The nurses at my place are absolutely brilliant and really took time looking for and measuring the follicles, it is so important when at the end of the day what they find determines when we start certain meds, how much we take and when we trigger etc. When there is so much at stake they can't just take a quick look. Like Sammy and Spinning said I would definitely complain.

I was thinking about transfer dates for FET I wonder if they put them back 5 days after ov or whether they wait until your womb lining is ready in which case it could be sooner. Something to ask the nurse on Wednesday.

My sample has just been collected (for the second time!) luckily I checked it last night because it had leaked- Eek! I had wrapped it up in a padded envelope so it won't have been upright all the time, I thought the container was water tight but apparently not...it's my own fault, the Serum paperwork did say to use a box so have repackaged it. Having it returned may be a blessing in disguise, there may not have been any sample left by 1 September!

Yes hopefully it will work out ok. I'm not having transfer this time I am freezing anything that can be frozen so hopefully there will be a good couple there which are ok.

That's very lucky about your sample trixie, definitely a blessing in disguise! I think frozen transfers are normally carried out on day 19-21 if you are having a medicated cycle. They give you estrogen to stop ovulation. If it's a natural one then you will have to track your ovulation using opks and I think that it will then be 5 days after that. Think I am having the medicated one if I get that far as it's easier to plan for.

Oh, I remember you saying that you were thinking about postponing transfer but didn't realise you'd definitely decided.
Thanks for the FET info, I'm having a medicated cycle. I don't always get a positive OPK, I must have a short surge so a natural cycle would be difficult.

PS- Hi Spinning Hope you're ok.

Yes decided to go for the fet. I thought it would be less stressful to break it down rather than go straight from egg collection and checking how they are developing straight into 2ww again. Also I think there's so much evidence which favours frozen over fresh and it also means that if I did ovulate early again I wouldnt have to panic how that would affect my lining and hormone levels. I shouldn't have too long to wait and provided we have something worth transferring I should be able to pop back with dh for a couple of days mid September .

Hi Trixie, I'm good thank you. 8dpo, ground hog day!!
How are you, are you going to Athens for your ivf?

So Lucie - when will your transfer be? The next cycle after your bleed? Xx

Hello there from boiling hot Czech!! Had my scan this morning and felt so much happier having it out here than UK. They are so much nicer and I felt much more confident that they knew what they were talking about. He took the time to explain everything to me and I asked lots of questions. Turns out the uk lady was right and 2 of the 3 10mm follicles on day 7 had shrunk or disappeared. I asked why this happens and he said when one follicle starts to get larger it has a greater surface so takes more of the medication and this means some of the others don't get as much so can shrink a bit or disappear. He said its normal and not much they can do to stop it. Anyway he agreed that I should trigger tomorrow instead of today. He said on the protocol I'm doing it's normally best to trigger today but it's worth the risk to wait until tomorrow as if we did it today I would collect 2-3 eggs but tomorrow have potential for 5-6. He said anything over 12mm on trigger day they can collect and then will check if there is a mature egg or not. At the moment I have 6 follicles between 13-20mm and one at 10mm. They have all day today and tomorrow to continue growing which could amount to another 4mm each so potentially I could collect them all but maybe one or two might not be mature. This was the best possible outcome for me today and it's so nice to go to a scan and have good news for a change!! I just keep my fingers crossed that the fertilisation rate is as good as last time which was 100% and we will be well away! EC is on Tuesday morning so I have a nice few days with my mum now to chill out, eat nice food and relax in the sun.

Sammy, we are looking at mid September for our transfer. I will be starting medication on my withdrawal bleed from this treatment. Dh and I will pop back together for a couple of nights and are going to treat ourselves to a really nice hotel so looking forward to it.

Oh Lucie that's such good news, hooray! Glad the clinic is better, and fx you will never have to go back to the other one again.

Lovely, a posh hotel sounds perfect! Our clinic is only 15 minutes from our house so we won't get to do that unfortunately!

Do you mind if I ask how much the FET is going to cost in Czech? Ours is going to be a whopping £1250! Xx

So annoying, for some reason I keep having to log in to post even though I've selected the keep logged in option.

Lucie that is brilliant news! Very pleased for you. And good to get an explanation for why some follicles disappear. Have everything crossed for a good haul on Tuesday. Enjoy the sun.

It really does feel like groundhog day doesn't it Spinning, every month hopes up and then disappointment. It has to happen for us all soon though. Can't wait for you to get your BFP. I'm staying at my clinic here for my FET but there is a clinic called Serum in Athens who do hidden infection tests which you can't get in the UK. You have to send a sample of AF (which is a bit grim) and if it comes back positive take antibiotics. Just want to rule out as much as possible before my FET.

Sammy that sounds quite steep. My clinic here in London charge £950 but we get a 10% discount as it's our second treatment with them.

Thanks both Eekk Sammy that's steep. I am going to be paying an extra £200 on top of my normal treatment and that will pay for the freezing and also the frozen transfer. They really do make so much profit on treatment in the UK. It's unfair as us ladies are so desperate for a baby and they are just cashing in on it.

OMG, that is such a big saving even once you factor in flights and accommodation.

Wow! Well if it doesn't work out we really will have to consider going abroad! Xx

I was thinking Sammy did they give you a discount off you original treatment seeing as you didn't have transfer? Yes it's great value out here my mum can believe how cheap the food and everything is as well. We've just have a lovely lunch which cost between £1-£2 each for the food and about 75p for drinks.

Lucie, so pleased your scan there had left you happier, enjoy the days with your Mum and fx for Tuesday. Wow that food and drink is super cheap!

Trixie, ah I see. Yes the af sample sounds grim! Not sure who would choose the testing of af samples as a line of work! Sounds like a good thing to have done though

Hi ladies I hope its OK to join?

I'm on CD 8 of cycle #11 ttc #1

I officially started ttc following surgery early last year . I fell pregnant after just 3 cycles of ttc . I was thrilled and shocked in equal measure ( I thought first time ttc it would take about a year and had also been diagnosed with endometriosis the previous year).
The pregnancy ended at 5 weeks and I felt devastated.

I started taking the pill shortly after until I felt a bit more emotionally and physically recovered and stopped in October last year and started again ttc from there. My doctor advised me not to expect anything to happen within the first 6 months. I did an opk the first cycle off the pill, just to make sure I was ovulating again. Then I tried " seeing how things went" for the first 6 months and trying not to pay attention when the 6 month mark approached.

The months that have followed the 6 month mark I have veered from hopefulness to feeling desperatly sad when af arrives each month with it only increasing each passing month. I thought I would wait for the 10 month mark and when I was at a " good" point in my cycle ( it didn't seem to come last month ) before posting.

My af which was very regular before ( my saving grace) has now gone a bit irregular and (sorry if tmi) seems to be heavier with more clotting. My ovulation days seem to have also changed . I was 28 days before with ovulation occurring on cd13 bang on mid cycle. I have spoken to my gp regarding irregular periods ect as was concerned there may be a hormone issue causing things as premature menopause is a factor in my family history. Full blood tests were taken and all OK so the gp dismissed any ttc concerns and basically just told me to go away and get on with it.

It dosn't help that I have recently moved so am new to GP's so I imagine they might feel like im some hysterical ttc woman sitting there . this particular doctor though is known for being dismissive so I booked in with another doctor who was much more helpful and seemed to take my concerns seriously but unfortunately could not do much without access to medical records ( which were not available at that time) the gp did make the usual recommendations to cut down/quit smoking limit caffeine alchohol ect. They also suggested my hubby coming in for basic tests at some point. He agreed at the time.

Aside from ttc I am struggling each month being contraceptive free when Af arrives and am in agony, it seems the pain is worsening each month ( teamed with being heavier , with more clots and irregular as mentioned above). I feel the endo is responsible and likly to have returned in the abscence of the pill. Its really disrupting my life and making the arrival of af every month more difficult to bear. For this reason I am booked in with my doctors (a different doctor from previous doctors I have seen) tommorow as they now have access to medical notes ( have mentioned suspected endo problem to previous two doctors) i thought what better time to post.

Then on mention today of doctors appointment ( mine soley) hubby refuses to go for any tests and to do any of the things he agreed previously. I was really thrown. He seems to feel its too soon to be involving doctors ( although by his attitude it seems he rather not ever involve them). He feels I'm rushing things and has adopted he same phrases as other people " it will happen when it happens " "relax".I try to conceal my sadness from him ( but seem to fail) as he says he doesn't want to keep talking about it.
I feel very much alone in this ttc Journey.

Sorry for the very long post I know that's more than enough for my first post

Hi Sammy am expecting to ovulate cd12 have a cd10 scan booked for Tuesday to check follicles etc so fingers crossed!

I know Spinning, definitely not a job I would want to do!
Just had an e-mail from the lab saying that my sample has arrived and is undergoing the tests. Really hoping I have the results by Wednesday as I am at my clinic then.

Hi Hopefully, welcome to the thread. Don't worry about a long post, it's important to get everything out and hopefully being on here will make you feel less alone. So sorry to hear about your struggles, long term ttc is hard enough without having endo problems to deal with too. Great that you have your GP appointment tomorrow though, let us know how it goes.

Lucie, hope you're enjoying Prague. Good luck for tomorrow, what time is your egg collection?

That's good your sample has arrived at the lab trixie. Will they tell you what treatment protocol you will need if it comes back positive or do you think you would be able to email serum? They have extensive protocols in place which they have trialled and said that it's what they find works best. I think your UK based Dr will be very shocked at the amount of antibiotics that serum prescribe for the treatment.

I have to be at the clinic 730am UK time tomorrow for my egg collection. Looking forward to getting it done now. We've had a lovely few days here. Our flight is booked back on Wednesday afternoon so will have a nice chill out day tomorrow and order room service for lunch. Going to treat ourselves to a couple of happy hours cocktails in the evening then.

Sounds like a good plan for tomorrow Lucie, especially the happy hour cocktails!

I really don't know what's going to happen with my results/treatment. I guess I'm hoping that they will come back negative. I don't know if the lab gives advice re treatment and not sure if I'll get anything out of Serum before 1st September. We'll see I guess.