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All aboard the Feb bus, as we finally take off

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Blue500 · 31/01/2015 10:28

New bus ladies, bring on those Bfp's! Smile

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Sparkly123 · 01/02/2015 14:00

Start over...

Cariad hi! Hate when data goes on the phone!! So sorry to read about your local NHS process. How frustrating for you. Here it is 1 year TTC until referral and then 2 years for IVF treatment. I hate the postcode lottery and am continually reminded of this with ongoing treatment for my health conditions. It doesn't seem fair at all. However,if you could manage to save up for even a consultation and some initial testing- which I know is easier said than done as it's sooo pricey- then maybe at least you would have a better idea of where you are? I know is hard to get past the cost of actual treatment but maybe even as a starting point you could focus on the consultation. Just knowing you have something in the pipeline can be reassuring. I know everyone here will be keeping positive on your behalf that you will get your BFP on these buses!!.. And v day luck is coming too... Sending Flowers and happy to hear from you again! Everyone is here to support you.. Or if you just need a laugh- plenty madness on display!! Grin

Today I have to try and attempt a cake for husbands birthday tomor.. Considering I've not really left my bed for a couple weeks it's gonna be a tough one!! If someone could send some energy vibes over that be great!! Cake oh and it's of the non healthy variety you will be all pleased to know.. Refined sugar full!!!
In other news I got a peak on my IC OPKs today and my CB smile appeared!! Wooo!! I totally didn't think I would get it at this stage two weeks post mc so I'm a happy lady today.. Only prob is dh is out at a work do today aka the "football with clients " yeh.. Lots of work getting done! Ha. So I have to wait till his return this evening!! What do you all think-- too late??? And what's the deal with alcohol and sperm quality again? Cause he will def have been on the Wine

Sparkly123 · 01/02/2015 14:01

My OPK! Don't think have ever had such a solid line on an IC! Smile

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MissMrsMummy · 01/02/2015 14:07

sparkly that's great Smile I think this evening is fine! the positive test means an egg is about to be released and will last for up to 36 hours (I think) so DTD tonight would be perfect timing.

Hope you are feeling ok and good luck with the cake - pics please! X

HeirToTheIronThrone · 01/02/2015 14:08

Well done Dojo! And sending cakey energy vibes to you Sparkly.

We went out for brunch so balanced out yesterday's avocado pudding healthiness with pancakes, syrup, bacon, sausage and poached eggs [greedy mare face]

Trying to distract myself from the 2ww so my flat is super clean, have stripped and washed both beds, chicken is marinating for dinner and frittata made for lunchboxes. I wish I was always this productive!

Lillygolightly · 01/02/2015 14:32

Gosh you ladies move so fast - 5 pages of catch up!

Dojo - yay your preggers!!! congrats!! hopefully your DH can start to celebrate too after you've poas a couple more times hehee.

Last night and today I've had EWCM so I think I'm on for Ov, also feel horny Blush so good news....bad news is me and DH both full of lurgy and feel terrible so I don't know if we will manage to get jiggy jiggy later on [sad face]

prudey the mental image of you will dildo in one had and fag in the other is giving me quiet a chuckle. Your a brave woman!!

loopylou1984 · 01/02/2015 14:37

I missed so much!! We went out to an American diner for breakfast, pancakes, maple syrup, sausage pattie, bacon, hash browns, egg and muffin! And a huge milkshake!!
This should help with the consultants advice to put on a bit of weight! Lol.

Purdey - dh original morph score was 3% so the revised 'normal' one must have been better than that, but I will get him to call up and ask
I'm worried what they might find with the scan/lap - not really sure what I'm worried about... I suppose in case it's something they can't fix... Or nothing and they can't help us! I'm such a worrier! Xx

Rainy34 · 01/02/2015 14:39

Sparkly- so glad you got your peak , and tonight should be good timing and tomorrow too

MissMrsMummy · 01/02/2015 16:12

purdey if you are still up for rummaging through charts, I would like to see any that show pre-af spotting and then get a bfp. Preferably with a 10-11 day LP. Thanks!

PurdeyBirdie · 01/02/2015 16:21

Cariad, I am truly appalled at the 'service' offered by your PCT. Get saving up, love..your baby awaits Thanks

Twinks, I wouldn't like to say. I am being proved wrong all over the place at the moment, although extensive reading today told me that a) testing should cease after a positive opk has appeared and b) ovulation takes place, on average, 36 hours after the initial surge - but a small percentage of women ovulate only twelve hours after the LH surge Shock This is why it is far more important to have sex before the opk shows positive, to ensure there is plenty of sperm in situ.

PurdeyBirdie · 01/02/2015 16:32

Sparkly, I feel so sad when I think of you bed-bound for a fortnight Sad You are a remarkable lady. That LH surge is a corker and gives you 36 hours to get the sperm in situ. Your SMEP has gone swimmingly! Smile

Sammy, knowledge is power. You are going through the very worst part of subfertility. Once you know the cards you've been dealt you can plan your next move..your baby is waiting Thanks

Miss, I'm on it...

Hairstylisttoboris · 01/02/2015 16:43

Oh yes purdey and miss preferably those who have short cycles, short LPs AND those who don't have much sex or at least those who both start and finish without ED screwing them at the end I suspect you may have to go back to the blessed Virgin mary to find someone who has more sex than me, and gets preggo

spinningirl10 · 01/02/2015 16:43

Cariad, I think it's so unfair that these things are postcode related! Not surprised you're feeling down. Is saving up for private tests a possibility?

I'm cd8, opk is negative, for the last 2 months I've had a positive on cd11 so I'm thinking dtd mon(cd9) cd 11 and cd12. Purdey does this sound ok assuming I get positive on cd11? I think our problem is stopping too soon, should we dtd on cd 14 as well?

Hairstylisttoboris · 01/02/2015 16:44

I meant less, not more!

PurdeyBirdie · 01/02/2015 16:46

Hmmm...Miss, I cannot find pregnancy charts with short luteal phase and spotting. Why? Because the women who have posted their pregnancy charts - and knew they had a prog deficiency and were sick of the spotting - have all taken progesterone from their doctor. All the charts showing women who have had progesterone deficiency report progesterone support in the 2ww.

Here's an example (remember, you won't see evidence of spotting on their chart because the progesterone has remedied it. Progesterone is shown as 'P' under 'meds' at the bottom right of the chart)...

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PurdeyBirdie · 01/02/2015 16:53

This chart I find very interesting. If you read the lady's profile at the top you'll see she was having short luteal phases of less than 10 days Shock Unfortunately, she wasted money on utter horse shit acupuncture and traditional Chinese herbs, which actually did more harm: she is spotting from 14dpo and this evolves into a full-blown bleed, which would be extremely upsetting once a bfp has been seen. Only then does she run off to the GP for some proper, good old-fashioned medication...progesterone.

Can you tell I deplore alternative 'therapies'? Hmm

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MissMrsMummy · 01/02/2015 16:56

Thanks purdey I have spotting but I don't know if I'm progesterone deficient... my progesterone confirmed ovulation when I had my bloods done but could it still be low?

sarkymare · 01/02/2015 16:58

So I did a FRER with FMU. There is a line but I think it might be an indent. It might possibly be tinted pink but I would say it is more grey/clear.

I won't upload a photo as you wouldn't be able to see it. Still really confused about my BFP though. I'm guessing it was a false result after all.

PurdeyBirdie · 01/02/2015 17:01

Boris...no charts like that, although I was looking under the heading of sex four days prior to ov (or more).

Twinkletoes007 · 01/02/2015 17:03

Thanks purdey. It's that dip between CD15 and 17 that's thrown me but perhaps I don't have a smooth rise and ov was CD15 which would reflect the positive OPK, it then dipped a little and then shot up by CD18. Quite possibly temping could have been wrong. Or perhaps stress caused delayed ov. Won't know I guess until I see next month's pattern. Wish I could fast forward!

sparkly you're amazing. You've been through so much as have so many of you ladies and I feel like a right tit whinging on when I'm new to all this.

potatopal · 01/02/2015 17:07

Hello! First month of ever trying. Have one probably imagined symptom of lower left hand pressure/twinge almost constantly since 4 dpo.. AF due in 4 days...Not massively hopeful but you never know.. Good luck everybody! :)

crazypuglady · 01/02/2015 17:12

twinkle I have a very odd chart this month too (1st time temping) possibly due to illness, lack of sleep, not being stressed for first time in a while or any combination of the above. Really irritated by having to go through another week of tww, a week of AF and a week of just waiting before I get to see whether next cycle brings a chart that means something or not.

spinningirl10 · 01/02/2015 17:48

Sparkly, I'm really sorry to hear you're so poorly that you've been in bed. Do you have good and bad weeks? You're always so cheerful here, I hope you're feeling stronger soonThanks

MillieMoodle · 01/02/2015 17:55

Hi potato! We are on cycle 1 as well (although we are ttc no. 2) Smile

australopithecus · 01/02/2015 17:57

Well done spark! Excellent news!

Cariad2014 · 01/02/2015 18:03

Spinning and Sparkly - thanks for your kind words. Yay for cake baking and a positive opk Sparkly - I really hope this is your cycle. Flowers Glad you are enjoying your new cookbook Spinning - sounds ace.

The reality is that we could probably save up to have tests and (if it was just one round), IVF privately, and I know that we're fortunate to be in a position to do so. We're probably a way off IVF yet (and suspect there's no point having investigative tests done until June) as this is only my third cycle post-ectopic, and I want to give it six cycles before doing anything (bearing in mind that when I was more fertile pre-ectopic it took us 2 and 3 months to get a BFP respectively).

My main concern (and the reason I went to my GP for reassurance) is that if I have another ectopic in my other tube (and I have a 17% chance of doing so), I suspect we'll be told that attempting to conceive naturally again is too risky, in which case IVF will be our only option. My GP's view was that the PCG's 3 year rule would probably apply in this scenario as well, although we could try and push the PCG to consider our case separately due to extenuating circumstances if that happened.

What I do know is that having to pay for it ourselves will make any fertility treatment so much more stressful than it needs to be, as if it fails, we'll have wasted a huge amount of money and will need to find a similar amount to try again. It also feels slightly unfair that as two taxpayers, who will presumably keep paying taxes for the next 30 years, we'll be reduced to paying for something ourselves that should really be free.