Immune/natural killer cell treatment when TTC or pregnant (aka the 14th pred thread)

[sunnyday01]

Continuing from 13th thread

I doubt it's wrong there is not even a glimmer of a line. All I keep asking myself is why, why me, why haven't I got my baby yet, why isn't it working, why is is not happening.

Sorry for such a me me me post.

Not at all sunny...this whole thing sucks completely its is so unfair. It's devastating when you work hard all month to get things perfect, build up expectations and hopes and then bfn. You did get pregnant so you will...so it's possible, (you just have to try and keep positive thoughts which is the hardest thing ever and I am definitely no great example of that) xx

Sunny- don't give up how yet.. As Dildoos says it could be too early .. Stay positive, if not this time, next time .. But I really hope it's this time.
Determined - thanks, have a Baby Bond but it's where I went on way to airport at 11 weeks and found out had first missed miscarriage.. I just couldn't go back there.
Dildoos- have a Bupa/Spire so may try that. Now feeling I will try relax and do accu one more month ...

Sunny - sorry about the bfn, 10 dpo is really early and i ve read lots about women not getting a hint till 12 dpo so hang in there but i know how disheartening it can be (i just hate early testing but withe the porgramme there no choice when you ve got to stop or cont the pred).

I don t know whats going on with my cycle, maybe the pred has messed it up as since the one day of ecwm it s all gone quiet down there opk sticks neg. Trouble is put dh on high alert so with dtd that confuses the issue. Tried to do a temp this morning to see if i d already ovulated but forgot till i d got up to bring ds into the bed at 4am so it was 36.5 so could be either way. Worried i ve already ovulated on day 6 which really would not be good ....got to try not to over analyse every little thing !

I'm sorry sunny. That's utterly crap. But u could be early? I don't know why this is happeneing to u or to any of us. It's just not fair. But one way or another it will happen. If u have the strength to keep going u will have ur baby. It's just going to take longer than u wanted :(. Lots of hugs and I'm hoping it turns postive

Rosa, glad u made a descision your happy with. No don't go back to that babybond, I went to one and I want to cry every time I drive on that road as I rem the sadness I felt. I hope bupa can help and meantime the acu will help keep u strong.

Hula-oh I hate that. It's so hard not to get into a tizz about if all. I worry I'll miss my surge every month even though I get it day 14 without fail. It's so hard. What I found helpful when I started going mad was to do smep for 2 Months. I realised that way u have l bases covered and even if u don't get surge EOD covers all situations. I get very obssesed with when to DTD , I'm sure it shouldn't be this hard.

Determined-how r the cramps? And the bleeding?

I'm utterly poorly. Aches sweats runny nose . Will be in bed allll day. And there's No way anything is going to implant while I'm feeling like this. I'm thinking of not even testing on Monday, I can't understand why I'm not preg yet either. Like all of us the fear of never being a mummy can be so overwhelming and saddening.

I hope things start getting better for us all

Anyone heard from Hope?

Girls have any of u had any counselling. I'm finding things sooo difficult to deal with after trying to be positive for So Long.
My acu said it might be helpful to release some negative emotions and cope better?
There is an infertility counseller but its 60 quid an hour?!

Trying - sorry to hear you re so ill, are you still on the pred ? Good idea re SMEP, i m sure all the stressing doesn t help.

I haven t done counselling but i think it would probably be helpful. This journey is just so hard and the lack of control plus grief of mc is hard for anyone to bear. You could give one session ago and see if it helps.

Thanks hula I'm feeling pretty crap! And it's making me feel really sorry for myself!

I think try the smep, it didn't work for me to get preg but I felt
Much more relaxed those months and my DH preferred it too. It seems to work for a lot of women. That way ur not stressing about ecwm etc.

Not on pred! Not taken it for
Last 2 Months as a naughty patient! Will take it next month.

Hey all, sorry feeling low on here. Feeling for us all!

Saw dr a and asked the question trying. He said yes high nk cell function and high nk cells can make falling pregnant impossible this is why we need to take the pred! So onwards and upwards fresh month and so continue with pred. I now have a 5 month supply and do not need to see him for 5 months unless I fall pregnant.
Then in 5 months I am to consider so then xxx

Trying, in my area I was able to get counselling through SANDS. It was on a donation basis rather than a fixed amount. Massive help for me.

Thanks iggi. I'll look into it.

Dildoos thanks for Asking. Back onto the pred Next month then! Naughty me for omitting it. Hope ur appt was helpful.

I've def got flu! So pants!

I don't get why quenby in Coventry only Gives pred from Bfp and they seem to get preg. Oh it's all very confusing! I'll just take it next month

Trying maybe those who take it from bfp aren't as high functioning? I am not sure but he said it definitely helps with falling pregnant. Appointment was blood pressure check. Asked about the mood swings and it's just one of those down sides I need to accept. Xx

Sorry your struggling tryig at the moment I guess talking about things will help no end xx

Hi all, this is the first chance I've had to post after a crazy couple of weeks at work! Have been thinking of all of you ladies lots though! Big welcome to the new people too.
I know how hard and completely crap and depressing it is, but science, the law of averages, and all other official stuff mean that you will almost certainly all get your BFPs soon. Then there is all the worry that comes with that, of course, but I know we will all get there! Having said that is like running ten marathons in a row while everyone tries to trip you up sometimes...
I have been through so many low times but for some reason I was able to stick at it even when I was pretty seriously down and couldn't take another moment of sadness.
I had 11 week scan today, which went well, as well as the harmony test so crossing everything results are ok.
determined what dpo are you? Sending you a big hug and everyone else who is testing right now. You guys have such amazing strength even if it doesn't feel like it. What amazing mummies you will be! Xxxx

P.s. Has anyone tried staying on the pred but leaving the aspirin to BFP?

Hope glad u posted! Been hoping all well. Congrats. Ur nearly at 12 weeks wow! So so pleased for u!
I'm off the aspirin too, but next month I'll give pred a go and leave out aspirin.
Congrats again, :))))

Thanks Trying! I'm starting to taper the pred next week so looking forward to that! Not sure if it is the pred or the pregnancy but have been majorly stroppy!
Are you definitely out this month? I had a cold when I had my BFP and my DH was just out of hospital with a chest infection when we conceived!
I always worried that the aspirin was stopping me from getting BFP which is why I stopped taking it, but that is based on nothing scientific at all so should probably be ignored! I had just got to the point where I was feeling majorly paranoid! On balance Dr S has got to know what he is talking about more than me! Just wanted to try something different! What dpo are you right now?

Hi hope. I've got full on flu! Achey muscles snot face and shivery. I'm 9dpo and was going to test on Monday but I'm pretty sure
I'm out again. It's really hard but I'm gonna try counselling maybe to keep my spirits up. I have a new worry every few weeks as to why not preg. Today it's my nk cells stopping me. Last week was blocked tubes. Week before DH sperm!
It's driving me insane to be quite frank!
Next month I'll go on the pred as per mr s and miss the aspirin out.

Also wondering If I should get a dog?! So I have something cute and little to love! Not that a dog is a substitute but just to distract me!

Trying so sorry you are low, want to give you a big hug. Feeling ill does absolutely nothing for your morale but as others/you have said talking may be just the thing! It's not always the easiest thing to talk about with family/friends and often I have felt a bit isolated and depressed with it all! I hope dh is looking after you xx like hope said it will happen the stats are in your favour its just pants you have to go through this journey to get you dream! But it possible this thread is testament to that (maybe go back to some of the old ones and see how many babies have been born on this plan, there is a list somewhere and there are loads).

Yay! Hope so nice to hear from you hasn't that gone fast!! Am so glad your latest scans have gone well!! Whoop!

I am 21dpo which makes that about 5 weeks. I not really believing it though...had spotting on several occasions and been a POAS addict and of course none of the lines are progressing quick enough/to my liking. So anxious. Had lots of cramping and twinges on and off and don't really feel preg (I know the pred etc etc) what did you feel like at 5 weeks?

No not tried that combo, this month was just aspirin and metformin (for pcos) as was having a break. I too thought aspirin could be an issue but there is so much conflicting info out there I stuck with Dr S protocol!

Xx

I was thinking of doing counselling at the end of this all too. All of the anxiety and loss, has left me feeling very worried about my little boy the whole time. I really struggle to not be too over protective of him which I know isn't great for him. I even worry when he is at nursery for three hours in the morning. The good news is that I am aware of it and try to stop myself so hopefully I won't

Bless u hope. Rec Miscarriage has so many effects and penetrates every aspect of our lives.
It's so so shit.
Thanks determined-I have looked and lots of babies born over the years. I just hope I'm one of them
Too. I hope ur bean is hanging on glad no more spotting. That's got to be a good sign.

Re dog I am exactly the same...our house needs more than just us in it and a distraction and something to love....not a replacement at all...just somewhere for all that love you have to go and they love you back!! I think it's a great idea!!!

Oops sent to soon!
Anyway, the point I was trying to make is that counselling can only be a good thing I think, apart from the expense!
I am sending you some virtual lemsip for the flu! It is hard to feel upbeat when you are feeling so unwell too. I know things will be brighter soon so hang in there lovely, xxxx