TTC for 10 months, and all the rest. 10 plussers welcome.

[MuddyWellyNelly]

New thread full of the most amazing women.

Thank you for the welcome

Consultant confirmed he wants to do a hysteroscopy and laparoscopy asap. He has helped me manage to sneak it through on BUPA so it may happen quicker than I thought.

Any advice on the lap? It's been 6 years since I had one
Wishing all those starting treat luck.

Nelly I had lots of bleeding on and off in the first 8 weeks and he's now asleep upstairs in bed aged 2!

Evening all. So lovely to see the thread busy - if sad that it has to be here at all. I have forgotten loads so will be a short and very incomplete catch up...

critter your visit sounds like exactly what you needed and I hope that the woolly hug will give you both some comfort when it arroves - and a good warm place to snuggle for the rest of your pregnancy until it's ready to be used for James' brother or sister.

Nelly the first few weeks are so stressful and I know I was holding my breath at the scan, convinced there would be nothing there. You are going to be OK and I am down the road if ever you need a real hand to hold. Time will speed up again though and you won't know how you ended up out the other side of this sh*t. I am still laughing at the sucking though, especially the fact that people thought you intended to say that and weren't surprised

berry so sorry about the announcement. When my friend (an instadiffer of the highest order) fell pregnant when we had been trying for a little while I was still at the place where I was setting myself deadlines - I would be pregnant by the time she had that baby so it was fine. On the way home from visiting them in hospital I cried harder than I have ever cried I think. MrM was seriously freaked out but it was cathartic. Sometimes you just need to let it all out. I also hear you on being taken by surprise when you didn't think they were trying yet. Another friend said they were going to start trying at Xmas and then sent the 12 wk scan photo by text in January. It shouldn't have made a difference but blindsided me in a way. I hope that makes sense. And on the AF discussions - I haven't had one since the cycle after my first failed ivf cycle. Was downregged for 2 months, pg for 9 and now breastfeeding for almost 7. Has been bliss. You will get some respite from the hellishness of an endo AF. Just hang in there xx

ray I hope my counselling question didn't offend. It's advice I've been giving myself and not listening to for years. I have often thought that I should go talk to someone about a bunch of stuff that happened when I was growing up as well as the infertility stuff but I've always chickened out. I do think that it would be really difficult to find the right person with the right demeanour and approach and the ladies on this thread are definitely womderful therapists (and are here almost 24 hours a day if needed).

I am so sorry to be such a rubbish catcher upper but thinking of you all as ever. I agree with art. Once a ten plusser always a ten plusser.

Hi, can i join this thread?

I have just started month 16 (day 3) :( My husband has had tests which have come back okay and as i have conceived twice but had two miscarriages (one was borderline chemical pregnancy but i don't like to think of it as 'only' a chemical), my doctor says i should be able to conceive so i haven't had any tests yet. I was thinking about using pre-seed or conceive plus this month. i used conceive plus when i conceived my second mc/cp first month.

I'm still young, so is my husband and neither of us smoke, drink, are overweight etc so why is it taking so long :(

Thank you Critter, and Fluffy - I'm going to... I think I've said before, I'm not very good at waiting so will do everything I can to make sure this happens as quickly as possible!

Hi Emily

Welcome to the thread. I'm a newbie here but have found the ladies so helpful and supportive, so hopefully you will too!
I'm on month 13 so know the feeling (although no mc) of 'why is this taking so long'
My blood tests were fine too, and dh as was ok (all high except morph, but all fine on repeat test). We're just waiting for our referral appointment now. X

Very quick sly post to say hi to Emily, apologies to Pikz for the wrong name, and thanks to everyone else for lovely words. Evening with family so perfecting my fake drinking. Not seen any spotting for 48 hrs so feeling a bit calmer so let's see how long it lasts

Better go but have a nice weekend

Wrote a phone post. Lost it. Bollocks. Here goes again...

Joy, Mini Art is now 15 months old . A friend commented the other day that I was pregnant for longer than that. Certainly felt like it. Anyway, she is a delight, especially now she has learnt that sleep exists which is a very recent thing . Mr A and I are on our way back from a rare night out with brilliant child free friends, they endured many years of treatment and more miscarriages than anyone should have to deal with but still have been our most steadfast supporters through TTC shite and were my poster couple for how life would be had IVF turned out differently. I feel very lucky to have such good friends.

I had stuff to say but can't remember it all. Hugs to Ray, Cos and Fox was a definite. Critter I had been wondering what happened to your woolly hug so am very glad to hear it's on its way to you. I shall look out for pictures

Nelly you are officially a slut . I have an extra large sombrero oven ready for when you discover it's twins

Welcome to Emily and pikz. My only bit of advice is to push for tests and referrals. Don't let doctors fob you off because even when you're on the system it still takes forever.

Nelly, good news about no more spotting. I am away, in a place I feel very much af home but it's also where sll this ttc shut started.

Art, I've just spent then evening with a child free by choice couple. They really do have an envious lifestyle.

I'm a bit tipsy, hic.

I think the level of typos in that post might give away my current inebriated state,

Ray, the deunken typos have really made me , hope it was as fun as it seems!

Art, I'm not sure poor deprived Mr N would agree with your assessment .

Am jealous of respective evenings with childless friends. I've been subjected to endless pearls of wisdom this evening. I can concur that current diffed status makes no difference to the stinginess of the comments.

Oh look another typo from me (not so funny this time) but I can assure you it's not a drunken one...!

Morning lovelies! Just trying to catch up. Good vibes to newbies (waves at Emily), fingers crossed for newly diffed (I wouldn't look at the screen for my first lembie scan and then just wept), loving the drunkeness, ray! Second everyone about being pushy with clinics, but no more than you can hack yourself!

Spent the week in hospital, am home convalescing sans gall bladder. Normally a straightforward issue, in my case triply complicated but will be off work to cheer you on for the next week or two. It turns out SB and lembie can manage by themselves, but it was hideous to be away and in pain for most of the week.

Poor you, lemons. I hope you're able to take if easy for a while and have lots of help with Lembie. Had the gallbladder been causing you a problem for a while?

I'm nursing a bit of a hangover this morning, I very rarely drink and I remember why now. Lazy Sunday in order :)

ray I didn't notice any typos, glad that you had a hood time and am with lemon and art in not thinking the knob sucking was a typo either. Nice one nelly
I've seen art's baby in real life and she is totally more than average. The hair is a wig though (obviously).
Hugs to old and new.

A hood time that's a thing of course.

Hello again :)

I can have the tests without pushing, I'm not on the NHS. The reason I'm not (I think) is because I'm in infertility denial haha.

How long do you think you have to be TTC for before you are classed as 'having a problem'?

On the NHS website it says 92% of 19-26 year olds conceive within one year, 98% conceive within two years so maybe I'm just part of the unlucky 8% from the first year. Reading that makes me think maybe I do have a problem.

I started TTC in September '13 and I thought that I would have a baby by this christmas, then I was even more confident that I would at least be pregnant by this christmas. I'm on day 6 and I will be due my period on 23rd December so I suppose there is still hope ;). I am more relaxed this month I think, it's probably the realisation that it's been 16 months so I might as well take it easy lol. When I eventually get a positive test I'll only be worrying for another 36 weeks about miscarrying/stillbirth so I should probably take this opportunity to be calm!

Critter, i think it's good and healthy to go to ground when you need to. I hope you've had a relaxing time at home. It's lovely to think that the woolly hug can be used as a blanket for James' sibling.

Welcome Pikz. I had a diagnostic laparoscopy and hysteroscopy a few months ago and it was fine. I couldn't get comfortable for a few days afterwards and took a few days off work but that was it. It's good that your consultant is helpful.

Mad, thank you for your very kind message. It's really nice to hear from a fellow endo sufferer. I long for the day when I can have a few months of no periods!

Welcome Emily. Sorry you find yourself here and sorry to hear about your miscarriages.

Good to see some thread drunkeness from Ray and some fake drinking from Nelly.

Lemon, sorry you've been poorly. Hope you have a speedy recovery.

Hehe to the drunken and non drunken typos!
Hope everyone's doing okay?

I'm currently 10dpo and wasted my first test this morning. Bfn of course. I've got near constant mild cramping and slightly sore boobs, but nothing that's screams bfp at me.

Some friends had their second baby today which is lovely and I'm so pleased for them, but 'Ouchy' for us at the same time. Xx

hi all. had my down reg scan today. It showed my down reg was a success so I can go ahead with stimming on thurs. They saw 10 folies one side and 5 the other.

so I'm really happy with that and feel in the mood to celebrate my birthday now.

Hope everyone else is having a nice day x

Fluffy that sounds great, IVF is a numbers game and you have reason to be optimistic! Fingers crossed and do ask here if you have stimming questions. What will you be on?

Sammy are you still temping? Fingers crossed it was just too early on the test.

Emily you are definitely at the hard stage - it feels like a very long time, but milestones are still being set. Most of us who've been here longer find in a weird way it actually gets easier again as we give up assuming we will be pregnant at x-point, so the dates don't matter so much. And I can confirm, having been pregnant for a whole 2 weeks, the worry is into another dimension all together.

WHAT WHAT WHAT Doll, you've met Art and mini? How cool! And I proper LOL'd at her wig . I'm a little bit alarmed at my reputation though. Was it the shower incident....

Back for more later but meanwhile general waves to everyone else.

fluffy that sounds excellent. Could well be the one. Good for you.

nels you don't have a rep. What's a bit of knob sucking between friends? Yes indeed the Arts and Dolls met lucky that no one got weirdly blind drunk and threw up because that couldn't happen

Hi Nelly

Yes still temping. It has dropped a bit over the last couple of days, but not below the cover line. How long before af does the temp dip happen?

How are you doing? X

Great news, Fluffy. That all sounds positive and I hope you have a great birthday.

Sam, I found it varied from month to month. Some months it would plummet the day of AF (which was always a bit cruel as I would get my hopes up) and other months it would gradually decrease. The month I got pregnant it stayed fairly constant and then rocketed higher than I'd ever seen it before but everyone's charts can look differen.

Thanks Berry - judging by the cramps I'd say I'm out this month anyway, but we'll see. Starting to feel sad again now... I hate this part of the cycle :(.

Oh sammy I am sorry you're feeling crampy. It's a miserable feeling, you just want to go and hide and lick your wounds before the next cycle. I don't want to get your hopes up, but I have had cramps when pregnant as well as when not pregnant before AF. So it may not mean anything. I'm assuming you haven't heard anything back about your referral yet? So frustrating, they really need to pull their finger out.

fluffy that is amazing news! Hurrah, you're really on your way. I have a great feeling about this round for you, and you've had such a positive attitude throughout. Will be lovely for you to be PUPO by Christmas and I so hope that you have a BFP to celebrate the New Year. Happy birthday, too, and a high five to my fellow Sagittarian - it's my birthday on Friday, am kind of dreading it as it's the dreaded 35, yay 'advanced maternal age'.

A big warm welcome pikz and emily - this is a great place to be during a crappy time. Sorry that you're here, but really glad you found us. The ladies on here are the kindest and most supportive women imaginable and I literally don't know how I would have gotten through the past few years without them. emily I'm so sorry for your losses. MCs completely suck.

berry hope you're doing ok. I know Christmas will be incredibly hard for you - you ought to have a little one with you. It's just totally rubbish and I am so sorry you're going through it.

Love to joy and nelly, hope you're both doing ok and not too horribly anxious [hollow laugh]. Thinking of you both and sending positive thoughts.

I love that art and doll had a meet up and I also chuckled at the idea of art's little girl wearing a wig! She does have rock star hair.

ray I loved your drunk post! Glad you were able to let your hair down a bit, you deserve to have some fun amid all the crap.

Poor you lemon. I am so sorry about the painful gall bladder, it must be very hard to be away from your DH and lembie. Fingers crossed that they sort it out and you're able to come home and be looked after on the sofa for Christmas.

AFM I had another scan yesterday at 7 +5. The little creature had grown quite a bit and is now measuring exactly the right size for dates (was a couple of days behind last time) and had a strong heartbeat. I emailed my obstetrician who delivered James after the appointment, to let him know I'm pregnant, and he called me last night and we had a long chat. He was really nice and I think he is going to be super conservative with managing this pregnancy, which suits me just fine.

Here's what he told me (maybe useful for nelly) - he said to make sure I'm eating plenty of protein, drinking water, taking prenatals, and getting rest. He advised me to cancel a long work trip I have coming up if I can - the plane tickets are booked but I'm hoping we can get a refund within the 24 hour clause as they only bought them yesterday. Will mean I need to tell work that I didn't miscarry after the horrible bleeding and the pregnancy is continuing, but with my sad history I hope they will understand. He also told me not to go digging in the garden because of toxyplasmosis (I told him I was planning to plant bulbs this weekend with my mum, who will be visiting) and he said I should supervise the bulb planting with a clipboard instead. And he told me it was probably a good idea not to have sex and that I should tell MrC he was sorry, but that we could still cuddle.

Love to everyone I've missed - sorry for lack of London meet up organisation on my part. I totally hibernated and it was lovely, just slept loads and spent time chatting with family at home. The weather was so dreary that I barely left the house but it was still really nice to be back.