Roll up! Roll up! Mount those uni cycles and shake those pom poms. The Elderberry Pavlovas are drumming away in the hope of a Christmas clusterdiff (Thread 24).

[happylass]

The smallprint –
Berries have a strict entrance criteria (TTC #1, over 30, TTC for 12+ months, NO instadiffers, must have a special pot and definitely no mention of baby dust or baby dancing).
Those not abiding by the rules may be escorted from the premises.

The roll of honour:

Gillster 40, TTC Feb 2012, IVF Feb 2014 resulting in 6 frozen one day embies. No transfer due to polyp. Failed FET cycle in September due to polyps. Starting 2nd FET cycle on 4 Nov.
Happylass 36, TTC since Aug 2012. Antibodies in DH's sperm. 1 unsuccessful cycle of ICSI September '14. Starting cycle 2 in January.
Smidge, 38, TTC since Jan 2013. Unexplained. IVF#1 Short protocol July 2014 yielded 1 blasto, BFN. IVF#2 in process - Long Protocol Oct/Nov 2014
Serenity 34 TTC Jan 2013, unexplained infertility, DH has textbook super sperm, 3 rounds unsuccessful clomid, 1 ICSI June 14 with complete fertilisation failure, next ICSI Nov 14.
Jelliebabe - 40, Threw the pills away 8 years ago. Unexplained but have a very low AMH, 1st IVF with clinic in Prague, 2 embryo's, chemical pregnancy. 2nd IVF in London branch of clinic - 1 embryo, BFN. Hoping to go back to Prague for Donor eggs in January
nolly, 32, TTC since Sep 2012, unexplained. 6 months clomid did sod all, next appointment 29th Oct, hoping to start private round ivd soon.
Pixie, 33, TTC June 12, DH has zero sperm count but managed to extract some under surgery, start downregging in a week, long protocol, ICSI Nov
Tigerdog 34, ttc 21 months. Unexplained after all tests and currently on waiting list for IVF.
Beaky 34 ttc since aug 2012. Unexplained with recurring cysts and adenomyosis. 1 failed IUI, IVF appointment in November and hoping to start first cycle in January.
Bushy 36, ttc since dec 2011, low amh, ovarian reserve, dh sperm had low count & motility but improved to 'normal' standard, IVF/Icsi in May bfp, then later missed miscarriage at 12 week scan. 2nd Ivf imminent but not sure if dates will work over Christmas.
HampshireBlues 36 TTC since August 2011, unexplained. 1st cycle of IVF chemical. Had a break over the summer. Cycle 2 planned for November
WildflowerMarmalade , 40, TTC 3 years, unexplained, underactive thyroid + immune issues. Sept IUI - BFN. Due to start IVF in Jan
lumen, 35, ttc since Nov 11 without a sniff of a bfp, unexplained, had only nhs funded IVF summer 2014, no implantation, trying self-funded IVF Nov 14, currently mid cycle
AnnieHoo 41, ttc July 2012. Unexplained. MMC Nov 2012, MMC May 2014. IVF Oct 2014 BFN. Waiting for FET.
Trill 41, TTC since March 2013. Endo with one completely blocked tube and one kinked with adhesions. Currently stimming.

And Gil's handy guide to the current IVFers....

Smidge - PUPO on 3 Nov
Pip - ET on 5 Nov
Lumen -EC on 5 Nov
Trill - day 5 of stims
Pixie - week of DR done
Seren - stimming yet?
Gillster- start DR on 4 Nov
Kuma - you starting soon???

Aw Bushy I'm really pleased for you your lovely success has also given me back some hope of a nbfp too!

beaky I am choosing to believe that you are in fact the oracle, so it must be true! An FU-NJ would be good (for me) although Im not sure theyd be too chuffed! I am having my AMH done on the recommendation of the nurse I spoke to after our IVF open evening. My FSH/LH tests were over a year ago, so would have had to be re-done anyway and they suggested the AMH was worth doing instead. I have to pay 100 for the privilege though.

happy I think the best way to employ defensive pessimism is to focus on the positive outcome that you will have a baby, but be pessimistic in that it may take longer than you hoped. Still a positive focus on the end goal though! You will get there!

A bit of time off around transfer sounds sensible. My own worst enemy would be the workings of my mind though, so I think I would need a really good distraction for the week lots of creative things to do. How did you manage it pip?

I am feeling much better today and I had a decent nights sleep. Still a bit sore though!

Come on all you PUPO ladies, hope this week isn't dragging!

Good to hear you more positive tiger. I donated my blood on my first IVF to the FC for part of an AMH study, so I found our for free.

I have no idea how pip stayed so sane for the 2ww off work. I have been back since the day after trf, I have loads to do to keep my mind busy but I am still mentalling. Only 3 more sleeps. I have taken Friday off so I can go do a day of Christmas shopping, will hopefully be able to distract myself whatever the result.

How are you doing spare and trill? Are you both back to work?

Also how did you get on today gill?

Back at work today.
I stayed sane by knitting and baking. Mainly knitting and watching Netflix.
And DH gets home at about 4.

Good morning!

I'm off work for another week, I took two weeks off once I knew roughly when EC would be so that I didn't have to stress about getting the time off. As I've not been feeling the greatest I'm really glad I did!

I asked the nurse for a scan today and she said that she'd have to run it past the doctor at lunchtime but didn't think it an unreasonable request given my history so just have to wait for a call this afternoon to see if I can get in over the next couple of days. If all goes to plan (big IF) then ET scheduled for 12th Dec.

Trill What did the FC say about you feeling rough? Hope you are better soon...
Gill Exciting to have a date! Let us know how the scan goes...

All ok with me. Desperately trying not to symptom spot, but have had to get up in the middle of the night for a wee two nights in a row, which is very unlikely me, so I've chalked that up as a potential sign

Sadly, I haven't had any time off after the transfer. I worked from home straight afterwards, but was back in yesterday. I have a fairly low-stress office job, so I'm not doing much more than I would be doing at home ie being on MN all day

The only thing I'm going to need to think about is whether I need to cut back on flying at any point, because I have to travel quite a lot for my job, but I don't think there is any risk, especially while I'm on Clexene.

trill yes do let us know what the nurses say about you feeling rough. Drink lots of water in the meantime and stay rested.

lumen you are doing amazingly. I assume no dreaded spotting (my nemesis). 3 more sleeps, that's great. I think I'm going to be camping then (I know, don't ask me how I agreed to this.... Suffice to say I was under the influence ) so I hope there's enough reception/ battery life to be able to check how you get on.

Cheers smidge, no spotting but I didn't get any last cycle either, feeling like I am on continuous knicker watch!

Camping hey, at least you are in sunny oz

Top tip - don't flick between work emails and mn. I've just told a manager about an implantation rather than implemntation issue

Oops pixie, not great for you but made me chuckle

Lumen sounds like plan for friday, I think you will be celebrating though. Pompoming away still, and for you Spare and Trill

tiger I may change name to The Oracle when you get a FUNJ!

Gill what happened with your bloods then?

pixie that made me laugh! Do they know about the IVF?

Is anyone else getting annoyed with all the banners on here? With my cold hands I keep pressing them when I really just want them to eff off. Anyway on the way to the gym for the first time in a month!

Pixie! Ha Lol oh dear! I've dune similar a few times but now reread emails over and over again

Piiiiiiiiiip! O em geeeeee! Just saw your Fabby news! Well done hun! Welling up for you here

I haven't had time to be on for a bit, still poorly with this cough. Now have antibiotics and have tena's. . Still doing my err exercises when i remember! Usually in the car!

Come on for an epic clusterdiff!

No scan but bloods all OK so I continue with the DRing for the next few weeks then start taking oestrogen tablets in about a week. Just praying the polyps don't rear their ugly heads again as they are particularly fond of oestrogen.

Beaky no they don't! Oh god it's so horrifying but I don't want to send a correction email as that points it out.so I've just left it. Good on you for heading off to the gym. My exercise regime is severely lacking. Not motivated when it's dark and horrible outside.
Smidge I nearly had a heart attack when you mentioned camping until I remembered you were down under! What temps have you got there at the moment?
My amh is on the low side for my age - they used the info to determine my med levels so think it was useful.
Spare hoping the change in nightime see habits is a good sign.
Lumen glad no spotting, fx and pom poms a-shaking.
Trill Hope you start feeling a bit more comfortable. It's crap when you not on good form. I've been little better today but shall mention sick feeling to nurse tomorrow and see what she says.
Gill did you get a call back about the scan?
Tiger appreciate your wise words on the long term goal. Need to be taught and reminded about patience sometimes. Go-getter attitude may be ok at work where I'm absolutely a completed finisher but so frustrating with ttc when it's out of our control. Deep breaths. One pixie step at a time.

X post gill. Glad that bloods ok. Annoying that you dont have security of scan results but I guess you have to trust they know what's best for you.

Oh crikey Pixie! Did you actually write that into an email? I thought from your first comment that you accidentally said it in a conversation, which wouldn't be so bad. Putting it in an email is so much worse.

I'm not helping here am I, sorry. Definitely the right thing not to correct it though. To be honest, I'm not sure I was aware of the role of implantation in getting pregnant before all this hardcore TTC malarkey started.

You've given us all a laugh at least ,Pixie, and isn't that the most important thing at the end of the day.

Poor Trill sorry you are feeling so rotten, it doesn't seem fair. Hopefully it will all be worth it in the end. And Jellie not well either and . Get those Kegel exercises going Jellie!

AF has failed to show up here. And before anyone says to POAS, I have already done it and it was negative. I'm thinking that this delay is just more fall out from all the stimming drugs in September. Has anyone else had looong cycles after treatments?

Wild thanks for your helpful comments . The worst bit was that I was ranting in the email about the fact that it wasn't my policy that was broken like he was alleging it was his problem because of his lack of care on the implementation. Sigh. I'm just gonna have to avoid him now aren't I?!
sorry about af messing you around. Hope it gets back to normal soon. She'll arrive when she's ready and at a really inconvenient time. In the meantime just relax...! see I can be helpful too

Just driving to acu session, drove onto the motorway following a car whose number plate ended in bfp and they had a child on board sign in the back window (hate those btw). Do you think they know what their number plate stands for?

Runners and riders as follows:

In the winners enclosure:
Bushy
Pip

On the racecourse
Lumen - PUPO, OTD 21st Nov
Trill - PUPO, OTD 27th Nov
Spare - PUPO, OTD 27th Nov
Pixie - day 7 stims, scan 19th Nov
Gillster - day 15DR, start oestrogen tablets on 24th Nov, scan 8th Dec, ET 12th Dec

Fallers :
Smidge

Clusterdiff ratio:
2 from 8

lumen na, I had no idea to dr googling lead me to mn! But maybe it's a sign!!

Pixie if anyone made that link - especially a man, I'd be amazed. It's very unlikely I think.

Wild get a white skirt on! Sorry it's bfn though.

This is how I've felt today: Why havent I got a baby??

lumen that car registration is a clear sign. Most definitely.

beaky I'm really sorry that you are feeling like that today. There is no real reason why should not have the babies when others do. It's just sheer, random bad luck. I don't know if that makes you feel better or worse. The thing is that if random crap things can happen, then so can random amazing things.

Pixie ah the old ' just relax' chestnut - the best TTC advice in the world. Thanks for that. You are spot on though when you say that AF will turn up at the most inconvenient moment possible. And beaky I will get a white skirt or possibly some skin tight white trousers (see tampon adverts passim)

Oooh gil that's exciting getting a date.

pixie I'm sure the person getting your e mail just thinks it's a case of auto correct.

beaky glad I've given you back some hope. I know I was always happy to hear of stories of women getting pg after a long time. You will have a baby, it will happen. It's taking us ladies a bit longer but it will be all the more sweeter when it happens.

Sorry to hear about our poorly berries.

jellie keep twitching your twinkle!

lumen it's getting close isn't it. I found this part of the treatment hard, it was like I was trying to ignore the huge elephant in the room iykwim.

In other news my lovely colleague who us off sick having chem has had her test results back and her consultant is really pleased with the results. She's got 2 more rounds to go. I am really chuffed for her as she is the nicest person, still has time and focus outside herself to ask about others and has encouraged me when I was feeling shit after the mmc.

Evening all! Just got back from an open evening at the clinic we will (hopefully!) be referred to next month. After feeling totally 'meh' about this whole bizzle for quite a while (hence my temporary disappearance) I'm actually weirdly excited to get going now. I thought if anything I'd find it terrifying but after talking to their embryologists and the nurses, counsellor and seemingly every other support staff type (but no consultants, obviously their time is far too precious for open evenings) I really feel like we'll be in good hands. Their success rate is over 50% with a live birth rate of over 35% in my age group, they do embryo glue as standard, endometrial scratches on request and our NHS will fund 2 x fresh cycles plus freezing and 2 x FET which is, frankly, amazing. They even had a sperm sample to look at with a microscope (MrP was overly fascinated by that bit...). Roll on December!

wild I hope AF arrives soon. Hate it when it plays silly buggers.

pixie if the email was to a man I doubt he even clocked it. Still, hate that stomach-dropping moment of realisation that you've made an embarrassing email mistake, especially when you spot it literally as you're clicking 'send'!

beaky your baby is coming and as a bonus you're getting all this extra lovely time with just you and DH that none of your friends have anymore (that's how I try to kick myself out of those moods anyway).

Gil I am keeping literally everything crossed for you - that bloody polyp better not show his ugly face this time!

Hope everyone else is good!