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[coggy]

Pefect for us spotters and knicker watchers!!!!!

Good idea Natty.

Here's my sad little chart for this month!!!!

that would be lovely babymad

Mrs - has rr got her bfp after the temps she posted on here the other day?

Hi Natty, yes, RR got her BFP from those temps. Lucky lady!

Sideways - what happened with you temp today?

Coggy's not posted

3catstoo - your chart looks good OV on CD15 like the last 2 cycles.

Thanks for all the help on the itch. I'll see what the dr says but might need to know more about the lavender - in what form? Also, do you all use tampons? I always have but have been reading more and more that is better not to and I can't help but wonder if this issue I'm having relates to using them during AF.

It's incredible how many posts there are to catch up on after just a day or so! The book finally came in at the library for me, so have been working my way thru it in bed at night - almost halfway now. It's definitely giving me a much better understanding of the software, and what you lot are talking about!

Had a teeny wee bit of EWCM late last night, but no sign of any today and temps not shifted so I think it was just teasing me. I don't usually OV til much later in the cycle (CD13 today). I know I'm not gonna be doing anything about it this month but I'm anxious to get a handle on when/if I'm actually ovulating so that next month when he's home I can time it right.

Coggy - Are you still with us? So sorry you're feeling so crap. I've had a few weepy evenings myself this week at DH being so far away. It'll happen for you soon, I know it sounds daft but I just have a really good feeling about all of us on here.

Sounds like you're all saliva testing now! Ok own up, which one of you outbid me on ebay?? lol

MrsMc - I've done the yogurt on a tampon thing before, certainly eased discomfort, but I think you're doing right seeing the doc about it.

Was just wondering same thing as Natty bout RR.

I use diluted lavender oil either in a bath or just on some cotton wool (only helps with the external itch).

I only use tampons if I'm swimming and I have AF.
My AFs are very heavy so it's easier just to change a towel on a frequent basis.
After the graze I got after having DS (no stitches needed but was borderline) things were a bit dodgy down there. I also like to see what's going on, iyswim.
They had such bad press years ago that I was put off then too.

Hope your appt with the grumpy doc goes ok.
Sometimes I find male doctors a bit more sympathetic than females. I've had female doctors in the past that take the attitude that we all have to go through it so just deal with it and stop complaining. Men on the other hand are eager to help so that you don't need to keep ging back and revealing your bits.
I have a choice of 2 male drs now, no females. They are both great.

Good luck.
Congrats to RR.

Welcome back BBW. Glad you are enjoying the book. The appedix at the back is particularly useful when you start charting I think.

Thanks 3cats. That all really helps. I am thinking I can have a wee pre-emptive chat with the Dr about TTC too. It will have been 6 months of trying and 5 months of charting at the end of this cycle so maybe he might have some advice and if he is examining me anyway, surely I can ask if it all seems ok?

When DH and I first got together, which was 5 years ago now, we decided to go to the GUM clinic and have all the tests for STDs, AIDS etc just so we knew we had a clean bill of health. Don't really know why, guess we just wanted to make sure we were ok before moving things on a step. So unless something freaky has happened in the meantime, we shouldn't have an infertility issues based on anything like that and I have always had normal smears so hopefully it is just a question of waiting out our time to conceive rather than anything else.

Congrat RR

No news from coggy - have e-mailed her.

Good idea to ask about the ttc at the same time Mrs.

Just popped in to say thanks for the congrats on BFP - I know its annoying when someone comes along to ask advise on something and then immediately says "oh, look a BFP... - lucky me!" - especially when there are women who've been trying for ages and ages. So, sorry but also huge thanks I just wish there was a magic ingredient this month that made it work so I could share it with you all.

I am not a happy bunny.no ewcm, not temp shift and neg opk and am on predicted OV day.
Will bd regardless however!
DH and I had a well desrved rest last night.It felt so good just to go to bed and sleep..

Do you ever have one of those days were you could just cry all day. i feel like that today.Too tired to BD and no sign of OV at all.

I'm surrounded by pregnant women and could cry my leg off (is that a sign of OV!?!?!). It's just not fair. I am not interested in anything except a BFP. I know it's not healthy to be like this.
Don't wannna cry to DH because he'll feel so useless and it'll just put even more pressure on him. I don't wanna talk to friends or anyone because I don't want to be known as the the girl who's struggling to have kids, with everyone waiting and watching as the months go by, making me even more frustrated and upset.

people in work are moaning about things and I feel like standing on my desk and yelling "YOU THINK YOU'VE GOT PROBLEMS..." I know everyone thinks their problems are the worst but these people can go home and get kisses and cuddles of their kids and I can't. God I've rally set myself off now..

Oh Ladybump - I do feel for you and know you have been through lot already but remember the temping is all about power not stress. Post your temps to date and let us have a look x

RR - not that there is a rating for those most deserving of babies but if there was, you would earn a very high score, believe me, there is not a lady on here who would begrudge you your BFP so don't even go there we are all delighted for you arn't we ladies!?

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GRRR! I give up. Feeling v sorry for self today.

another go

Ladybump, maybe your temp will rise tomorrow, that's a mighty drop today. Mine dropped alot in my first cycle of temping.
Sorry you're having a bad day.

Congrats on sharing your chart with us.

I had to be coached through the exercise, I'm terrible at adding links.

MrsMc, how did you get on at the doctors?

Yes very pleased for you RR so don't be so silly.

ladybump - as you temp has dropped so much today i would guess it will happen in the next few days. do notdo anymore OPK's they stress you out and both me and Mrs think they delay ovulation because you are thinking about that test too much.

Sorry you have had a bad day i am the same sometimes. have to admit my whole life revolves around ttc and i think about it far too much but can't change that.

Have another rest this evening, i would say you have put a good effort in this month. x

Thank you ladies. Just had a bath and chilled out and feel remarkably better.
I will stop using OPK as I know that can be a waste of space but i think i'm addicted to wee-ing on things !! God help us eh!

Hello, I'm back. Well done for posting your chart ladybump (goodie, someone else to analyse daily I think you are about to OV Ladybump, hang in there.

Drs was really humiliating 3Cats. Had to wait 40 mins . Got in there and simply said, I think I might have an infection and explained the symptoms. Then explained that we were in our sixth month of TTC and that I did not want to ruin this cycle by taking the wrong meds or by having an infection at a crucial time.

He just nodded and than asked about my cycles to which I foolishly brought out my charts he was FASCINATED he said he'd never seen anything like it and kept asking things like "what's pre-seed" and "why do you have grapefruit juice on here" . I had to remind him about the infection!

He then said that he saw no point in examining me because there was no unusual discharge but he would take a urine sample in case it was a blader infection (?) I did say well what about my symptoms to which he said, "hormone fluctuations".

He told me that his practice would not refer us for any tests until we had been trying for 18 months without a BFP. That we would have to rule out 3 months for DH's op too. I explained that that would then take me to 34 and could that not be taken into consideration, no I was told, but we might not be able to have IVF if I get to 35 oh and they won't let me adopt either. Thanks old fart!

So not great - seems like I will now have to ask in a chemist instead.

OMG what a dick!!!

18 months that is stupid and why would you not be able to adopt???

I was seriously get a secon opinion in the new year or aftr trying for a year but to be honest i think you will get there before then.

Glad your feeling better ladybump and well done on the link

Argh, can't u change GPs MrsMc?

MrsMc you must have felt tlike screaming! Sounds like such a negative experience for you today. He certainly must not understand what it is doing to you emotionally.
To me, your experience just proves that Drs aren't all that. Imagine having never seen a cycle chart before and calling yourself a GP to women like us. Seriously lacking in their duty of care.
I'm a firm believer in kicking off and harrassing them until you get what you want. They'll just want to get rid of you in the end.
Otherwise move GP's tell them you've been TTC for 18 months and get the ball rolling.If they question medical records just say you actually came off pill or whatever earlier than you did.make up some story. Say you are very emotional about it and it is effecting every aspect of your life etc...May or may not work. Would be good if it did.

Thanks for the support ladies, I was actually more amazed at his lack of knowledge then anything but I guess, and this sounds awful but it's true, he'll see lots of teenage mothers and there don't seem to be many people around where I live who don't have kids so maybe he just has no experience of what it is like for someone like me! He also starting saying that maybe he should do a pregnancy test on me to be sure to which I laughed bitterly and told him, trust me I am not! He then went on to say that home kits are no good that people get false positives all the time - what a load of nonsense!!

I'm just going to ignore him. I feel less swollen and sore today anyway so maybe whatever the issue was is going away on it's own.

My plan is to see one of his colleagues in late Janaury if we've had no joy and try and get a referral to the consultant. Dr admitted last night that they always refer people up.

How are you all today?

Morning ladies!
DB didn't come yesterday for some reason but DB and his GF are planning on coming down late this afternoon, chill time for me till then. Manage to BD again last night, up the odds, Good news.......wait.........wait a bit longer.........temp went very high this morning meaning I OVed yesterday, how cool is that (do they say cool still) so BDed at the right time this cycle, very please with myself, and all them sign that my body was going to OV were spot on the money, CP was high and open, CM yesterday was loads of EWCM from 10am till 6pm, had a little spot break out, very light cramping and than there was my ferns. On a high today, so happy!

OMG so sorry MrsMcJur, I would charge practice altogether if I was you, what a dick! 18 months are they for real, so sorry I hope you get your original problem sorted out soon!

Coggy are you okay? please let us know your okay!