For anyone TTC or thinking about TTC with Soy Isoflavones

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I will be starting soy isoflavones tomorrow, cd 3.

This will be my 11th cycle TTC, with two chemical pregnancies/ early miscarriages @ about 5weeks so far this year already.

I've read up quite a lot on SI, and just at the point now where I'm thinking, what the hell, I'll give it a go!

Anybody else TTC with soy isoflavones?

Anyone who's taken SI notice a lack of cm? I got ewcm a few days ago but have noticed a distinct lack of cm through this cycle [cd17 today]. I've read Clomid can dry it up so I'm wondering if SI has done the same

I'm having a weird cycle. Had ewcm [yay!], and light cramping in left ovary area last night [yay!] but opks have only shown a very light line I know they are ICs but can't help feeling a bit concerned that I've still not ovulated despite other positive signs...

I had loads and loads of ewcm on both cycles I took si. I'd never had so much. Bfp on 2nd cycle. I think it affects people differently though.

I had quite a bit of ewcm this cycle, but then I took EPO so that would have counteracted any effects from soy. I never really got much before so EPO worked wonders for me!
Loopy I would think you are due to ov very soon. ewcm and cramping are excellent indicators of impending ov, so get down to it lady!!
Oh New maybe stress isn't helping matters?! I know that's a pointless thing to say and a self perpetuating problem, but try not to worry too much. You took such a small dose of soy I really don't think it will mess with your cycle too much. Remember some months are just a bit random! Any ewcm I had would always dry up a day or 2 before I got my +ve opk, so fx you will get yours any day now.
Frolic happy anniversary for yesterday and happy googling!

Ginger yes I think they are positive symptoms too but it's a bit annoying the opk doesn't come up nice & dark to prove it

The ewcm & cramping was yesterday - we DTD the night before & we'll DTD tonight but I think yesterday was ov day. Bearing in mind an egg only lasts 12-24 hours, it's probably too late but hopefully Monday nights shenanigans will have been enough!

Thank you NewEra; I'm hoping I finally OV!

Loopyla, I'm two days in & rather dry but apparently this is normal just before OV & AF. hopefully you get more when it matters!

OPK still very faint...maybe I should just bin them, bloody waste of money!

My opk seems to be fading in tonight, I suspect I will get a positive stick tomorrow so I OV on cd12. Still holding my breath a little bit as these sticks can be tricky bastards and it could be a total neg tomorrow instead.

I'm no ovulation expert loopy, but your symptoms sound positive. Maybe you missed your surge? I think that's easy to do. Keep resting just in case your body geared up to ov, didn't make it and decides to try again in a few days. I have found the ic's to be pretty reliable - I temp and it has always confirmed ovulation around the same time as opk.

I gave been using epo to help with ewcm as I don't usually have much. It seemes to help and I still had some this cycle, my first with soy.

No news here- 11dpo and no symptoms at all. I'm bored!!

Frolic I admire your willpower, I would have tested two days ago lol!!!

I used EPO this cycle but I can't say I've noticed an increase at all. Maybe of watery discharge but not EWCM unfortunately. My fertility acupuncturist recommended bee pollen and spirulina today. I actually don't think I could take another supplement, it's becoming ridiculous

I seem to be having an odd cycle and I'm also a bit worried that my body geared up to ovulate but didn't. I took the Soy CD's 2 - 7. I've had EWCM since CD12 (Friday) and started testing on the strip OPK, there was no test line Friday and Saturday and on Sunday there was a faint test lane. On Monday the test line was the same as the control line (no darker), that was in the afternoon so I tested with a CB digital that evening to confirm and just got a blank circle, and the same again last night. I've been testing with the strip OPK's in the morning and they have gradually got lighter and today there was only barely a test line.

We have DTD every other day since Friday so I'm hoping I'm covered. I think I may have ov'd yesterday as my temp dipped, then spiked today but only to what it was on Tuesday. I'm going to test with the CB later this evening. If my temp goes up again tomorrow morning then at least I'll know I've ov'd.

It's frustrating isn't it.

It's not willpower new, it's denial. I really don't thing I'm pregnant but I'd rather spend a few more days with the possibility that I am than have my hopes dashed by a bfn. I have also stopped in every supermarket on a 75 mile journey to opk for a frer but couldn't find one. So I only have ic's and don't think there is any point doing then at this stage.

bobsy, the opk's I use say that a line equal to the control line is a positive. I'm sure you have ov'd and your temp will go up and stay up. Fx for you.

Thanks Frolic I just couldn't understand why it only showed the one day and why the CB was negative later that same day.

Fx for you for a BFP.

Thanks bobsy.

I've never used the cp digital opk's so no idea what might be going on. Fx for that temp rise to be clear and confirm ov for you.
Did the soy do anything for your ov date? It seems to have bought mine forward by 4-5 days.

Interesting Bobsy - I'm thinking the same, my body geared up to ovulate but didn't.

Also what you said about the opks - I used clearblue last month & you're supposed to test in the morning. The ICs you're supposed to test somewhere between 10am-8pm, although apparently between 2-2.30 is the optimum time.

I'm so confused A degree was easier to do than this!

Thanks Frolic my boobs seem to be at that very first stage of soreness that I usually get at 1dpo so that should mean I've ov'd yesterday but a temp rise will be the best confirmation. If I definitely ov'd yesterday that would be cd16 when normally it is 20 or 21.

The fact my boobs are a tiny bit sore is making me think does that mean my egg didnt get fertilised or would I get sore boobs at this stage as part of my LP. It's usually a symptom of AF but with my DD I had sore boobs before AF was due.

I've been using the CB's for the past few cycles & they e always been good, I've only been able to use the IC's since taking soy as before that I never got the hint of a test line.

Loopyla. I think the ones I use you can test at anytime you just have to have not been to the loo for 4 hours before testing, I've always tested in the evening with them. The IC's I've always tested between 10am & 8pm.

Hi everyone ! Tentatively trying out the SI for the first time this month . Have had a break for a bit now anyway . Getting another cold so not ideal considering I feel pretty bad already but feel the need to get on with this again. DH is a total disbeliever but he hasn't read about this at all so has no clue .
Am going to do cd3-7 started with 100 mg tonight since my tablets are 50 mg . Will prob take 100, 100, 150, 200, 200 unless they make me feel awful . Congrats to all BFP and good luck to everyone else!

Right did a CB this morning & my fertile window is over so I'm pretty convinced I ov'd on Tuesday like my body was telling me. I'm now 2 dpo and now have the tedious 2ww to go through Hard to tell if SI has made a difference yet as my cycle length varies so much but last month I ov'd on cd19, this cycle cd16

If I don't get a bfp this cycle, I shall buy a thermometer, bin the ICs & get my DH on some conception tablets. He was tested 3 years ago when we were TTC #1 & everything was hunkydory but it can't hurt I think at this stage. At 37 years old I want to be sure everything is covered!

Good luck everyone, where's everyone else at with the CD/DPO's?

I think I really need to write this cycle off, it's a total disaster. I am full of cold, there is nothing remotely sexy about a sore throat and streaming nose. My opks read something yesterday but nowhere near positive and my temps are up this morning. No sex occurred

Think I might have missed the boat, feel really crap about it.

Well I don't think I've ov'd this cycle so much for the Soy making ov stronger!

My temp wasn't up it had dipped on one thermometer & was same temp as yesterday on another thermometer. My boobs are sore so don't think I'll ov now. I should be on 2dpo but I'm worried now about what's going on maybe I took too much Soy

Hi all, hope you don't mind me crashing your thread? I also took soy this cycle. 100g CD4-7, I'm now on CD17 and still haven't ovulated. My ovulation day is always CD15, positive opk day 14 but soy seems to have really messed things up! I gave up the opks and temping this cycle (idiot) as my cycle has been so reliable and I found they made me anxious. But was pretty sure I hadn't oved so took my temp this morning and it is low. Just wanted to share really as I see some of you are in the same boat x

Sorry to everyone having shitty cycles. The soy seems really hit or miss.
It did make me ov earlier (which is what I wanted) but I suspect it may have given me terrible headaches. I am 12dpo and had a bfn this morning. My temp is also going down, so I think I'm probably out. I think we'll take a trc break now until next year. I might try dog again if my cycles go back to being long.

Good luck everyone!

Arrghhh!!! soy not dog! And ttc not trc.

I'm really sorry to hear that Frolic

Well we were meant to DTD this morn but a combination of my coughing and spluttering and DP having some sort of fit in the shower about water going (and staying!!) in his ear meant that instead he has fucked off to work

I am pissed off but trying my hardest not to be as even when we have timed sex perfectly for OV tons of times, it's made absolutely no difference. I'm hoping for a pos opk later and hoping he comes back home up for a quickie.

Oh the joys of TTC.

Sorry to everyone having a bad time with SI; I hope you get some unexpected surprises!

I'm on day 3 of them; still no massive side effects bar a dull headache near the top of my head mid-afternoon. Tonight & tomorrow night I do 200mg though so might hit me then! Had quite a 'heavy' feeling & was quite aware of my uterus yesterday, might just be because I'm thinking about it more. OPK showed not even a faint line. DTD every 3 days atm.

No headache it other side affects that I can notice after the first dose ...