The Elderberry Pavlovas: Hanging up our fertility crystals, relaying the Yellow Brick Road and chasing that chopper. We want our BFPs and we want them now! (Thread 22)

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bushy your DH is right about everything, especially the part about not getting too tired, although I'm not sure how you can achieve that what with work and everything. The only thing your DH is wrong about is golf, I don't get golf at all and think it is just wrong.

smidge receptionists who think they are the actual doctor and are qualified to give medical advice are the pits. One lady had me coming back twice a week for three weeks to try to collect test results which were actually never going to turn up because the nurse had used the wrong type of test tube. The receptionist used to practically tut at me and say that some types of test just do take longer. I thank her though because she toughened me up to be pushy when I need to.

Good work on the jogging btw.

kuma glad AF turned up. And beaky welcome to the stabbing train.

Waves to RP

Hey everyone

Smidge - I empathise with your post. Don't you just feel like the putting your life on hold? I do definitely. As for your annoying DR's super annoying secretary! Where do they get off. Glad you've an appointment Monday though.

Kuma - glad AF has started but I do hope you've managed to ring the clinic today!

Bushy - I do how you're having a better day today. Completely agree with WFM above.

Beaky - did you have your scan?

AFM I had my scan this morning. Just showing two likely follicles at about 10mm but that's to be expected really at this stage. I think I'm going to need longer on the stimms than they anticipate. Exhausted all day but went to the gym after work. Been really snappy with oh (he started it) and tearful tonight so its bedtime. Just can't get a grip at the mo. I think I just want dh to say there there it'll be okay! But instead he says "what ec Friday! I can't get out of work Friday!" In a shouty/arsey voice. Then he says he can if he goes in at 4am.... I bet he could swing a favour if he just came out and asked but noooo it's all a big effing drama. It might not be Friday at all! (I think Saturday would be worse ). I did point out none of this was my fault. But I feel like a stupid fat defect who can't even ovulate properly. Errrrr this is toooo hard.

Jellie try and not think like that, it's just not the case, you have no control over this. Good for you on getting the gym too. A Friday no less we will all get there eventually, hopefully sooner rather than later like!

Kuma great news on AF arriving! Did you manage to ring the FC?

Smidge well done on the jogging! I've got that 0-5k app and it's great, like you say you can still have your own music (that auto corrected to mucus ) and that helps me immensely. When I can be bothered anyway! Hope your appointment on Monday goes well and I think you are best to check about the lap before anymore IVF.

How's the stabbing going Wild? When's your next scan to check progress?

My baseline scan is Monday morning, fx all is clear to go ahead! I feel like I am pinning a lot on this but this will be the third attempt at just starting now!

How are all the other lovely berries? Is anyone back from holiday yet too? It's quiet in here at the moment!

Arr jelly, bug hugs to you. It can be overwhelming to deal with. I had a massive shouty row with my dh because he wouldn't get the sat nav out ready for our journey to ec. I'd been fine up to that point, quietly laying out my injection equipment each night and doing my bit. I suppose he wasn't having to do any of that so then when he wouldn't even get the sat nav out of the drawer, he got it both barallels!! If you can calm down just say to him that all you need is a bit if reassurance and that it's a little bit overwhelming. Men need stuff spelt out. And you are most definitely not a defect. My friend didn't ovulate herself and got a surprise bfp after many mmc and clomid etc so it can happen.

Think about what one of the berries said ( sorry I can't remember) that happy people don't put themselves down. You are lovely and brave and far stronger than the average instadiffer, willy sniffer.

I've decided to try and turn a bit of a corner. It was my chiropractor who said well you've got 8 weeks to look forward to the next step, get your exercise going and feel good. It surprised me to think it's only 8 weeks and yes, I really do need to do exercise other than yoga. I've been in a bit of a slump so keen to get out of it. I went for a bike ride last night. She said even walking is good but ideally it should be getting out of breath and to try and not go more than 2 days without exercise. It's good for the mood so think I will really try.

In the spirit of meh avoidance we are off to the rugby today. Dh has cooked breakfast, is doing his washing up from last night and has put a wash on...!! Got to try not to get too drunk; I can't cope with the hangover anymore!!Have a good w/e berries!!

Well that was a pitiful post. Soz. I'm shattered not sleeping well at all. I'm getting problems with my hands (arthritis and capital tunnel) which wakes me up. This can't be helping! Add the hormones and I'm all over the place. I can't help comparing to last time when I was so bloody excited throughout. My friend called me today who I only speak to once/twice a year and he asked about how we were getting on. I couldn't .speak about our last go (normally i d be okay) and I cried after the call for a good while. Sigh. I think I'd better just let it happen and make allowances for myself. This round isn't the last round and i can't hope to feel the same given what happened.

Mr B apologised this morning and said he was feeling very stressed too and it's fine we will make it work no matter what. He is lovely normally. He just tries to be all things to all people and it comes out sometimes. He hates to think he's letting anyone down and when it comes to a conflict between personal and work he struggles but he does make the right decision in the end. Of course that made me cry again! I really need to pull myself together.

I'm going to see my nephew today hurrah! A bit of play will sorry me out!

Thanks Bushy and Beaky you're quite right.

Bushy exercise will really help. I find it helps to lift me. Perhaps I should move into the gym. Lol

Beaky good luck for Monday. I'm in for my next scan then too.

Ciao for now I've got nephew therapy coming up!

beaky the mucus autocorrect made me chuckle! Must be a sign you've written the word more often than the average person! (I'm assuming these devices slowly 'learn' from us)

bushy enjoy the rugby and a fun day out. I'm currently watching some Aussie rugby league (hubby's choice, not mine) and after someone bashed their head, the commentator just said something about how he knows player safety is important, but the players will soon be wearing skirts... Eeerr?!! Did he really just say that?! I'm no feminist but seriously, surely that's derogatory?! No one here seems to bat an eyelash!

Jellie I hope the endorphin rush helps cheer you up. Have to say though that I totally understand why you were upset at your OH - mine does similar things (inbetween claiming to be really supportive!) and it gets me every time.

The stabbing is going fine beaky , thank you for asking. I had a scan today (which is day 6) and two follicles are already at 10mm - which the FC seemed happy with. So I'm to continue with the same 225 iu Gonal-F tomorrow, then scan again on Monday.

Now I'm wondering if that means there are only two follicles developing or if they are the two dominant ones. I'll have to ask on Monday. I'd like to get an idea of how much is going on in there for future reference.

Jellie glad you got things straightened out with Mr B. these are testing times.

And yes, exercise is a great thing for lifting your spirits. I must do some.

Jellie, Wild good luck for your scans tomorrow and please send berry vibes as it's mine as well! Really hope all is clear now!

Hope everyone had a lovely weekend, it's super quiet in here!

Yes it is very quiet in here. I think we may have to call in Boodle to get the party started. Must be the day for scans tomorrow cos it's mine too! Petrified that after 6 days of stabbing nothing will have happened. Especially since I cocked up the Menopur at the beginning. Oh well we'll soon see! Good luck everyone - let us know how you get on.

Oo yes good luck to you too Happy!

Good luck with the scans everybody!

Well I appear not to have messed up as just come back from scan. Womb lining looking great and have 10 follies ranging from 8-13mm. Only 2 of those are on the left ovary though - that's obviously the duff one!! Scan again on Wednesday and keeping the same dosage until then. Fx for everyone else getting scanned today.

Arghhh wrote a post and it's all disappeared! Anyway, Happy that's great news and it sounds like it's all very positive and moving in the right direction!

Jellie and Wild how did your scans go? Kuma have you had yours yet?

Mine was much better this time and although I still have a large cyst and one small one I can go ahead finally! Woohoo. I've collected my gonal f and inject for 7 days then scan again on Monday.

I'm so relieved as I thought that it was going to be cancelled again and I've been really stressed and worried which resulted in a little breakdown and a cry this morning over the house keys! Thanks everyone for the good vibes and Pom Pom dances!

Woo hoo!! That's great news beaky (gives pompoms a final shake for luck). Brilliant news that you can get started at last.

happy good work on those follies - and my left ovary seems to be the duff one too. The right one us doing the lion's share of the work.

My scan today showed the two main follicles are now at 15 and 16 mm so they are well on the way. The FC apparently like to get follies to Day 10 before triggering. Today is Day 8, so no more drugs for me for now and scans every day to keep an eye on things. If the follies look like they are going to go then the FC will jump on board with the trigger shot.

How is everyone else?

Weirdly my left ovary is the crap one with the big cyst! It's collapsing though which is why they let me go ahead.

Wild that all sounds very positive, two which are good sizes especially for day 8! What dosage are you taking? Good luck for your scan again tomorrow, you should get to day 10 no bother.

I am quite nervous for stabbing later so much to remember.

Hmm, what is it about left ovaries? They need to pull their socks up.

beaky I've found the stabbing absolutely fine, although apparently the Gonal F pens are the easiest ones to use - so yours may be different. I watched an online video before doing it, to reassure myself that I was doing it correctly. The woman in the video took ages to build herself up to jab it in, which possibly made me more nervous! In the end I poked the very tip of the needle against my skin to see how it would feel. It was pretty painless so I just went for it.

The drug manufacturers do 'how-to' videos which take you through it step-by-step and are more professional than the one I watched. Plus the instructions in the box are very clear.

Alternatively, you could come on here and get the Berries to guide you through. Can you do a live cam link on here?

Great news ladies! Got everything crossed for you all that are in the midst of stabbing and scanning. Sending huge Berrie vibes your way.
bushy spin classes really helped shift my mindset after what happened last year. Nothing like a mega endorphin rush.
xx

Great news Wild and Beaky. My left ovary is feeling slightly less sheepish now knowing it's not the only lazy fecker in town
Beaky I was absolutely petrified doing my first jabs. I'm not really bothered about needles but the thought of sticking 2 in to my own stomach absolutely terrified me. I have to say though it's a breeze! Really is nothing to it. The hardest part for me (and the most stressful) was getting the bloody Menopur in to the syringe in the correct dose. I believe the Gonal F is pre filled though? Best of Berry luck, you'll be great!
Hi Feather. Hope all is well with you?

Happy that sounds like a good number! Woo hoo obviously not done any badness with the mix up! Linings a good size too!

WFM - your follies are good sizes! Now by day 8 do you mean of your cycle or of injecting?

Beaky. Brill news that your cyst is on its way out! Hooray for starting! Have you dune this before? I can't read back soz. Live cam link would be good though, we could have a virtual coffee morning (,decaff obvs) Must have been the berry EFF off dancing!

AFM - lining v thin (4mm ish) but triple stripe showing which is good I spose. Two main follies one is now 10mm and one is 12mm. I'm on day 10 of my cycle but day 6 of injections. I've to start the Cetrotide tonight (to stop ovulation). But I don't think that I'll be in for ec this week. They're growing at about 1mm/day and they want them to be about 17/18,mm. And Cetrotide can slow them down so I'm thinking Saturday earliest... We will see. Friday and Saturday will be really difficult for hubby with work but hey we'll worry about that when it happens. I'm feeling a lot brighter for a really good rest/sleep at the weekend! Right next scan Wednesday! Fingers crossed x

Arrrrgh. Need to step away from Google. Reading about women who had 40 follicles but only got 3 eggs. Starting to worry again that this is all going to go tits up . Someone wang me quickly!

Woohoo first stab done Wild I did a similar thing to you and rested it on my skin then it went in quite easily! Yep I have the pen too and it's quite straight forward, although I really went through the instructions slowly step by step like a geek! Dh is away from tomorrow so it's just me for the rest of the week and I've forgotten everything the nurse said!

A live cam link would be hilarious, I actually bled quite a bit too so that wouldn't have been pleasant!

happy 2 a night?! I don't even you it sounds complicated. The gonal f pen is easy to get the right amount you just twist the end and it does it for you! Phew.

Jellie yes it's my first round of iui, if it doesn't work it'll be on to IVF. Good news on your follies, they are coming along well! Fx for more growth and a good time frame. Glad you feel a bit better too. Fx for Wednesday!

Feather how are you? How's featherlet? You must be nearly 20 weeks are you?

Happy step away from dr google! Every person is different and I'd bet that's America too. You will be grand and it's not going to go tits up.

Well done Beaky!! Yes I'm short protocol so unfortunately it's 2 a night for me. The one stung an awful lot tonight and bled for the first time too .
Jellie glad you're feeling more upbeat. Glad you're follies are making progress. Slowly but surely is the way! It's looking like next Monday for my EC - maybe we'll get harvested at the same time!

Just wanted to say good luck to everybody who's stabbing ath the moment! I have my fingers crossed for all of you, it sounds like everyone's doing great so far!

Step away from google happy! Like beaky said, I bet the lady with 40 follicles was in USA. That's irresponsible as far as I'm concerned - she must have been seriously overstimulated, which leads to crap egg quality. Much better to have less follies but better quality!

Good luck to you all and well done on getting the first jabs out the way!

Happy ! My lefty is a lazy one too produced 2 follies and no eggs last time. Were one each side this time so its getting a reprieve. I'm on two a night now. Funny I remember the Cetrotide really stinging but was easy, the menopur stung like a bitch though! . We could well be ec buddies... Where are you having your treatment? And yes sometimes that happens but its very rare. Step away from Google

Beaky! Hooray welcome to our stabby club! Well done the thought of it is worse than doing it right!?!?!?!