TTC way longer than 10 months past & present

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A group of lovely ladies who've seen it all

Nelly , any news on the email? I don't think there is anything wrong with being hiopeful. Positivity attracts positivity in general. Thanks for the stern words. So true. I do like and need a good stern talking to on occasions.

Toes - I hope your appt goes well in the next few days. Sorry about AF though, I wonder whether anything happened this month?

Berry - sorry about AF pains too but yippee to a month off. I always secretly enjoyed those months off.

Scan was fine. Phew. I can breathe again. Can't believe it has only been a week since last. When I told Roy all was fine he asked whether I was 12 weeks. Time really has dragged.

Hi everyone

Sorry in advance for crap short post. Just wanted to say yay to joy's scan being ok. Today you are pregnant, hang on in there. One day at a time.

nelly any email yet? This is the wo

berry a break can be helpful but I am sorry you're feeling sad. It's all just an exhausting marathon.

toes good luck for your appointment and so sorry for late but still here AF.

fluffy it's great that you get three rounds, but I hope you won't need them all!

gin I don't feel strong, it's just that the choice is IVF or giving up and I don't think I could live with the sadness if James was the closest I got to completing my family. I keep telling myself that the only way out is through. I am so glad that you have ginster, I remember what a rough road you had to have her.

ray I am really glad you can squeeze in another natural round before Christmas. So sorry about the tent dwelling, you have had so many knocks.

Had a scan today. Lining was 7mm which is on the thin side and I am randomly feeling a bit crampy, but the clinic said they are happy with it, and that my doc will give me a date for ET tomorrow - which should be some time next week. I don't feel particularly hopeful about this. It's been such a saga, I can't drum up much enthusiasm because I'm so scared of it not working again, or worse, working and then failing. Trying to ignore it all instead.

Sorry nelly. Was going to say, this build up to a cycle is the worst, it's so bloody stressful when you've crashed and burned before. I am paw clutching. There is every reason that this will work. You must be on pins and needles waiting though.

Joy, whoop whoop for a good scan. Oh you deserve it so much. Bless Roy for feeling like it is 12 weeks already. Are you about 7 now? What happens next?

Critter I'm sorry you don't feel optimistic. Trust in Daddy Critter's witchy feeling and keep going. I love that: "the only way out is through". You are so wise. It's a long road still, but no way are you done with your family. James will always be your first. But he won't be your only child. But being inside the bubble of our own fertility movie makes it hard to see the ending. Sounds like you will be a little ahead of me for ET but I'm hoping we can share this for a long time to come. Fingers crossed for both of us.

Ray are you peeking out of the tent yet? Thinking of you.

Cos, I'm hoping quietly that your absence from the thread is meaningful in a good way; and not just work.

Waves to everyone else. Still no email. Had a few bad nights sleep so I want to feel like it is all for something. Luckily the DR hasn't impacted me too much though, just tiredness. But I'm getting impatient and trying not to say rude words under my breath about my donor . Who is after all doing an amazing thing. And doesn't deserve me being an impatient cow!!!! Maybe those drugs are doing more than I thought

Ooh what a grumpy message I posted last night.

However my donor clearly heard me! Got the email. I start my drug regime tomorrow. Have to go for a scan on the 3rd. (Here). Have a list of questions to go back to P with. I stopped at 10....

Excited. Nervous. Exhausted.

Waves to everyone else. Xx

Critter - I am not sure anyone on here has ever felt hopeful about their cycle. We have to self protect. But I really feel hopeful for you. James will not be your only child, he really won't be. I am pleased you are able to start again next week. And I have everything crossed for you. Are you going to try 2 being put back or one?

Nelly - ah excellent news. So what is your drug regime now? You aren't being flared up as well are you?
I'm 8wks tomorrow. I have bitten bullet and booked an appt with GP for next week. Don't really want to jinx things but I need to get under a hospital's belt I think. I will have to see how my paranoia and anxiety takes me as to when I take myself off for another scan. Would love to hold out for a few weeks but will just play it by ear.

The list is long. Cyclacur, clexane, aspirin, anti-virals, anti-bs (again?!), folic acid and steroids. I'm not even sure what half of them are for. Nothing too hormone like though other than the cyclacur which I assume is to help my lining. I'm probably going to need a sharps bin from somewhere?

8 weeks is great news! I'm so excited for you. How is Roy feeling?

So pleased your scan went well Joy. 8 weeks to 12 weeks does seem like a stretch for a scan when the days are ticking by so slowly. Hope you had a good birthday too.

Nelly, so glad your donor heard your rant . That sounds like an impressive list of drugs.

Critter you have such a lovely way with words. I really like that saying "the only way out is through" and might make it my new mantra . I am sure we will all get there in the end but I think it's impossible to always be positive throughout the waiting.

My mood has blown over now, as I knew it would. I think sometimes it's not even that I'm sad AF has arrived as I don't really expect any different. It's more just that my periods are such a bloody nightmare and so painful that I dread the thought of having to put up with it. Never mind, only one more to go before the lap and I so hope that that will improve the pain!

Nelly that is terrific news that you can get started. Joy is on a lot of druggage too I think, and look what it has brought her! Once you're on the conveyor belt it is less stressful.

Joy hurrah for nearly 8 weeks. Every day that passes is another day closer. I am just so pleased for you. Just another month until you can get into the second tri.

Thanks for both being so kind. I am trying to not think about this cycle too much. We have three frosties left so we decided to put back one this round, and then if it doesn't take, do the last two together. Then if those don't work we will do another fresh round which I would feel more hopeful about.

I stupidly gave my little scent hound two grapes as a snack last night. Cue a massive panic when I idly googled them after giving them to him and saw they are extremely poisonous to dogs. Called the vet who told me to get him to the animal hospital emergency room immediately, which I did, in a taxi as MrC was out. They induced vomiting and luckily he puked them up, had only bitten into one. They gave him an anti nausea medication and I managed to get another cab to take us home. He was super woozy and out of it. He seems ok today but I was nearly in tears I was so worried and felt so stupid for not checking first.

Cross posted with berry. Periods are awful and it sucks that they are painful for you too. Madness had bad endometriosis and suffered a lot with hers too (a poster nelly mentioned who now has a beautiful baby boy). I am so sorry you have the physical pain on top of the emotions, the dashed hope. It just adds insult to injury.

The only way out is through is totally my TTC mantra! I find it really helpful, glad you guys like it too. I can't remember where I heard it.

Oh no, poor Doug and poor you, Critter. That sounds traumatic! It's strange some of the things that are poisonous to dogs! I didn't realise as little as two grapes could affect them though. Glad he is ok now.

I'm taking my pooch to be spayed tomorrow and I feel quite anxious about leaving her at the vets so I completely synpathise with the worry. When the vet started talking about the painkillers they would give her afterwards, I felt awful even though I know it's the best thing for her and I dramtically declared yesterday when I was in the throes of awful period pain that I wish I could be spayed too

Critter - can you honestly not feed dogs grapes?! I knew about chocolate but I use to feed grapes to our dogs all the time when I was a child. In fact I use to play a game where I would chuck them at the dog so she could catch them. I had no idea they were toxic. Dog did survive until she was 14 so luckily no damage done but poor you. What a worry. Glad dougy is ok though. I can't believe one of those 3 embies won't be the one critter. To have got that many frozen is a great feat in itself so it would seem unlikely none of the rest would take.

Berry - I am sorry to hear you have horrible periods. Endo sounds very unfair and tough. Hopefully things will improve after the lap.

Nelly - I am not sure what cyclaur is but I was also on a womb thickener. But you are basically on the same as me. I was told yesterday to stop my fragmin (clexane) immediately if I start to bleed again as they think this was the cause as it thins the blood. I would stop it at 12 weeks anyway which I am surprised about as I thought most ivfers carried it on until their due date.
I'm excited for you.

Just a quick post to say I'm so thrilled that you've had another great scan, Joy. That really is wonderful news. Time really does drag in the first trimester. But everything so far, so good. The next 4 weeks will pass, and before you know it you're 12 week scan will be here xx

Nelly really exciting times for you ahead. I'm so hopeful for you. Big paw squeeze. You're so brave.

Critter it must seem gauling to be on the ivf train again and so soon but I've no doubt James' twibling will be with you in 2015.

Sorry about the tent dwelling Ray but a natural round before Xmas could be it. You never know. Your doctor will surely be much more on top of your protocol this time around.

All is well here. Mini bunny is starting to have spectacular tantrums, has started talking "more" "bubbles" "oh dear" "this" and "that" and is very forceful in her demands i have no idea where she gets it from and copying everything we do. Yesterday she was doing a very strange hand and arm gesture in the car and it took me a while to work out she was copying me driving one handed! Equal measures of super cute and bloody hard work! The blood curdling screaming at frequent intervals through the night as she cuts multiple teeth I could do without, Keep going through it ladies, it's all worth it

nelly you can get sharp bins from the chemist, £2.50 I think, sounds like she has you on an immune protocol there, Cyclacur is like the Progynova which is actually an HRT, I quite liked being on it after the DRing

joy great news on the scan. I would be tempted to have another in 2 weeks just to stop you menkulling for 4 weeks, yes you'll need to start booking hosp appointments soon.

critter I didn't know about grapes either, I know there is something about Chocolate but honestly my mums dog used to eat it and was ok, she once ate a whole large bar of Cadburys. I have a good feeling about cycle for you :)

berry I felt awful getting my cat 'done' she had been on heat which was very traumatical mainly for the humans and felt like a right bitch for taking away her chance to have kittens we live in a ninth floor flat esprcially as I was trying to get pregnant

ray hope you are ok, I'm offering some of Barry's delicious pumpkin loaf to you in the tent

waves at bunny

Joy, thats such fantastic news, a brilliant milestone to get to with everything ok. What size were they measuring. i think you deserve to start relaxing about it all very soon.

Critter crikey i'd never heard of that either, what a drama, so glad you saved him! i love that phrase too - the only way is through (and not essex as previously popularly believed). Keep going, you have a great plan.

Nelly woo hoo for getting started! How exciting, i have everything and more crossed. i think we are due a flurry of bfp's on this thread following Joy's excitement.

Ray hope you're ok, thinking of you. not long now till the next natural round.

Berry oh no to horrible af pains, have you always had them? Do you know what causes them? i have to say my Af is definately different post re-section, everything flows out a lot quicker and i think the cramps are less, but it might just be my addled brain. have you been tested for endo?

Bunny so glad all is still ok with you.

i went for day 2 scans etc at my new clinic today. we probably wouldn't start a round with them till the new year, but you know how things can drag out so thought we may as well crack on with the preliminaries. Seems good so far from an efficiency / admin / answering the phone / being able to get there and back from the office on an extended lunch break excuse perspective etc etc. And they go in for immunes. i had 9 follies, 5 on one side and 4 on the other, which seems about right and not a significant decrease from previous scans from what i can remember.

waves and buzzy and anyone else who's around

Hi ladies, can I join you?
We have now been ttc for 12 months which seems like some kind of terrible milestone for us and I'm just hoping to hear other peoples stories so I know we're not alone in this, and really just to have someone to talk to as no one in rl knows we're trying.

Gosh Critter how scary. Lucky Doug that you were so switched on. What made you check? wonders if grapes mean something different in 'murica

Ah Cos I guess AF turned up then :(. But, hooray for a good scan. That number of follies I can only dream of, or ask my donor to produce! All those things you list are important factors in the do-ability of a cycle.

Bunny how lovely to see you. Where are you now with bump? Mini-Bunny sounds princess-y . Thanks for the paw squeeze. I don't feel brave. Quite the opposite!

Buzzy I'm all for feeling better, but really I just need sleep. MrN is being super sweet though and insists I go to bed early tonight and then lies beside me snoring Thanks for the sharps bin info. Another thing to hide. MrN says he's going to get my a granny pill box so I can keep track!

Joy I'm sure cyclacur is oestrogen. But at taking clexane until due date. Wowser. That's a lot of the stingy bastard. I am actually not sure about that as I've no reason to think blood clotting is an issue. Hmm.

Berry I'm the same with my pets. They are so precious to us, especially in the circumstances we all find ourselves in. I'm sure she will be fine and it's definitely the right thing to do. Bless her :). I'm glad you feel better after the worst of the AF disappointment. Hormones are cruel.

Waves to everyone else.

nelly don't knock the granny pill box, I had the mega one with the large letter for the day on the front I still have it somewhere

foxy have a lovely holiday

cos were you hoping to get a cycle in before xmas, its good to get the admin out the way

sam welcome :)

Well done joy. 8 weeks was when I finally got around to ringing the GP too. I'm so glad that everything is going well so far.

nelly I am so glad that you are on the way and that your donor heard your lament!

critter I have heard that about grapes (and chocolate) but we used to give them to our dogs when I was growing up when we had no idea and they were fine. I hope little Doug is ok now.

bunny the mini sounds adorable. I can't wait for centime to start interacting more.

ray I hope you are doing ok.

berry sorry for the horrible AF. I always had horrible heavy painful periods before diffage. I am not looking forward to them coming back.

cos that all sounds very positive.

foxy have a great holiday.

Welcome to the newbies.

Just popping in tres quick to say joy so pleased all well at the scan! What a lovely birthday present and happy birthday from me! Wasn't it about 2 years ago that some of us met up? I'm sure it was near your birthday and just before my 2nd ivf.

Sorry no time to post properly but super excited about upcoming Athens trips, fresh cycles, twibling transfers (critter your family started with James, but will most definitely not finish with him x) and holidays. Big luffs to all

Critter - oh no, that must have been so stressful for you! I'm glad he's ok though, and you've probably now memorised the list of things that dogs aren't allowed to eat! I think I'm very lucky as my pup is part labrador and comes with the stomach for anything. I'm not saying I regularly feed her chocolate, but she was perfectly fine when she destroyed an advent calendar a few years ago. And that time she decided to eat a whole raw onion (she raided the able and cole box which we stupidly left on a chair). I did have to make her vomit once when she ate some dark chocolate and I was very worried. Poor puppy.

Berry - I can really sympathise with the AF symptoms, mine have always been horrendous :( Can't offer any advice unfortunately, just solidarity.

Cosmo - The new clinic sounds good, it's nice to be able to extend lunch breaks or just leave/arrive early/late. There is no way to get to the hospital from either my house or work without driving, so I'm having to do a lot of juggling around my work hours. Luckily I am the HR manager so I can be generous with what I allow myself! (and I would totally allow the same for anyone else too, I'm not giving myself special treatment, I promise)

Sam - Welcome! There are a few of us newbies here in the last few weeks :)

Nelly - the granny pill box seems like a great idea. I'm so rubbish at taking even the folic acid every day (and I was rubbish with the pill back in the day too , I should have knows that I'd have trouble TTC really) and I'm sure the number of pills I need to take will only go up from now on. I've just looked and you can get them on amazon...

I had my appointment today. It was brilliant, except we were almost late because the car park was full and we had to drive around for ages to find the entrance to the other one, and than walk through the whole hospital...! Nightmare.

The doctor went through how everything would work and said that we'll not be able to start until January, but they took a whole load of blood from me for the HIV/HepB/HepC test and also my AMH. He seemed mostly concerned that I was at high risk of OHSS because I am so young. I'm starting to keep a tally of how many healthcare professionals call me young. It's quite nice, but 27 isn't exactly a shocking age to be trying to start a family! And neither was 24 for that matter... Our next appointment is in 2 weeks, bonfire night! Mr Toes needs to provide a sample in the hospital, as the doctor put it "for a dry run" to make sure he can actually "perform" in that setting when the time comes. I think they will also freeze it as a back up in case things go wrong on the day! I don't quite know what they are going to do to me on that day, but I suspect the dildocam will be involved

Hi Sam. Welcome! Are you starting to have some tests now you've reached the 12 month stage? It's tough but ypu're in good company here.

Cos I hope the resection, if I have it, will improve things. Yep, I have moderate to severe endo. It was diagnosed by lap in May but my doc removes more severe op by excision rather than lasering it off for more severe cases which is why I have to go back in Dec (totally my choice to have such a long gap between laps because I changed jobs). That sounds good that you've made a start with a new clinic. I think convenience of getting to the clinic has to play a big part in where we choose as I can imagine iVF is stressful enough without having to travel far to get to the clinic.

Fox have a great holiday!

Critter hope you and Doug have fully recovered now! Do you have your date for ET now? I really hope this will be it for you.

Hope everyone has the Friday feeling. I am so ready for the weekend!

toes that's great news that the wheels have started turning on your cycle. 27 isn't that young to be starting a family, but I guess most people with fertility ishoos tend to be older - either way, it is great that you have age on your side and great that you started young as it just buys you more time without the stress of eggs deteriorating etc. I am so grateful I started when I was 31 - even now that I'm nearly 35, my obstetrician tells me I'm young (clearly not the case but he works mainly with high risk people and as I'm in DC, a lot of women start their families much later here - the average age at one hospital nearby for first baby is 38!). January could mean a gorgeous autumn baby... I hope this time next year you will have a little person! I love labradors, they are so loving.

berry hope your little dog is ok today, I can sympathise - and sympathetic laughs at you wanting to be spayed too. It's really stressful when we are worrying about our furry companions, they can't tell us whether they are ok or not.

joy I am so thrilled that everything is going ok - as buzz says I would be tempted to have another scan in 10 weeks just to break up the waiting and to check on them. And as euro says, squeee at twins!

nelly it's really wonderful that you're starting now. So pleased. I'm actually super excited for you about this. I think it's going to be wonderful. Thank you for saying nice things - you and everyone else have been such a wonderful support to me. It's been quite the journey for us all!

I'm looking at pill boxes too - I forgot to take my oestrogen tablet last night and don't know whether to double up or just carry on as normal . Anyone know? I've emailed my clinic but haven't heard back yet.

cos great news that you're cracking on. I'm so pleased. Is it definitely too late to do a cycle before January? Either way, good to get the admin and preliminaries all sorted now.

bunny your little girl sounds like a handful, and also adorable! Hope you are feeling ok.

ET will be Tuesday. Feels like it's coming up soon, thank goodness. Doug has been a great distraction. I probably over-reacted about the grapes but apparently they don't know what is a bad dose of them and so the vet wanted to be cautious - especially as he is quite small, only 28 pounds. Also I kept thinking what if I manage to kill my little rescue dog within less than a month of adopting him? Having assumed 'everything will be fine' all the way through my pregnancy and then getting clobbered at the end, I think the experience has just made me a lot more anxious about the worst case scenario happening. His latest trial was that he got a couple of ticks which I found last night. MrC pulled them off with tweezers. He was super patient throughout and may or may not have been allowed on the sofa afterwards for a cuddle.