New balls please! The BESH are hanging out the cunt bunting for Wombledon and saddling up for the Tour de France!

[FizzyFeet]

Rules of entry: must be ttc #1 for over a year, be suitably evil and hag-like, and submit your BESHtionnaire for our approval. If you are a baby duster or a hun, this ain't the thread for you.

Bugs, seeing as I'm not great on the words today, just

Wow Bugs, sounds hardcore... You're not putting me off that easy though, I still want one! Sure you're doing a fab job, she's a beaut. Have an unBESHlike hug, you can so do this.

Bugs - if you'd had no sleep for 3 days and then had to go to work and do a very stressful job that you'd never done before whilst someone overdosed you with hormones you'd expect to blub like a nutter so just because it comes with a title of mummy doesn't make it any different cry away! you're doing fine - it's totally normal to cry excessively in this period. I can't think of a single mum that I know of who hasn't - including the ones who had perfect births. It's a big hormonal nightmare. Just let it out, don't try to hold them in just cry and move on. Blimey, you'd think I'd had my one with all this bloody advice wouldn't you! I clearly haven't had the experience myself (chance would be a fine thing ) but I do have 11 nieces and nephews and a lot of close friends who've all had the same thing too so I like to think of it as collective advice from people who know being channelled through me! UnBESH hugs lovely. Oh and an entirely unBESHly forehead stroke too. Today it is necessary. We'll be back to arm punches and dead legs before you know it

Cherry I think it depends on the clinic. Some seem only to want to go blast or nothing - it might also be a DE thing as thinking about it all the DE people I know have gone to blast. When I've done mine they took it on a day by day basis.

One goes away for a few days and look at what you all get up to!

Cherry 8!! Wednesday!! Amazing, crossing everything for you!

Blue Sorry to hear that the droid got you. I was pretty fucked off about it last week and still thinking about it. I am so fed up I could scream.

Bugs The 'hard' bit is all going over my head and all I can think is 'brilliant, brilliant, brilliant!. sorry! :)

Waves at everyone else!

Just got back from a camping trip. We've seen lots of wildlife (I was dying of cute looking at baby hyenas... someone get me a grip, please), had fantastic views of the Kilimanjaro and generally had a really nice time. However, Femara is killing me. It makes me nauseous and generally feel sort of run down and spaced out. Any advice, hags?

bugs hang on in there. Is Mr bugs looking after you both? Do you have family interfering helping?

Wise words Fab

I'm glad I've got yesterday's wedding behind me. The first of four weddings in the last 13 months that I haven't had to attend while miscarrying, yet due to the ridiculous number of bumps and babies - and this wasn't just me being sensitive, many people commented on it just perhaps not with such a bitter tone - it was yet another endurance exercise. No more weddings now until next May and June, and I can't stop myself wondering yet again whether next time it will be me standing there with a bump....

Anyway, had to do all of the 4 hour drive home as DCW had a sore throat and massive tonsils not to mention still probably being over the limit. By the time we got back I was feeling like shit as well. Horrible sore throat, feeling rubbish . Bah.

Keep going with the moral boosting woo cherry.

Erica no advice I'm afraid, just fish slaps. Woo needles perhaps?

Blue
Just because .

What's Femara Erica did I miss something? Sounds like a stunning camping trip though, hope you were well enough to enjoy it.

Barking just meh, a good wedding ruined. I thought no one could afford sprogs at weddings these days. A couple of close family chillens for effect is surely all that's required so as not to spoil the party.

Good on GP Bugs, glad they're looking out for you and hurrah for the weight gain.

I'm unexpectedly in work tomorrow, having been convinced we were going for 3 day transfer. Feels very weird!

Bugs ... I have much love for buglet

Ugh. You know when you wake up in a negative frame of mind and despite your best efforts you can't shift it? Just ugh. Trying not to look at all the lovely photos on fb from the wedding of all the happy parents and babies, and bump rubbing.

Oh, and I feel sick and I've got a sore throat. Not helping.

bugs very glad you're being well looked after.

chez 2 days until pupo!!!!!

Urggh with you barking

Woo needles... mmhhh... I was considering Reiki too!

Cherry Femara is the same as Letrozole which is an alternative to Clomid. Clomid seemed to work well for me (in terms of me producing more eggs, not in terms of getting me preggers OBVS) but it did thin my lining so the doctor recommended Femara instead. Wondering if I am wasting my time since I never got pregnant with Clomid or Femara. But I want to give it my all before we go back to discuss more IUI/IVF...

The trip was brilliant, just wish I had not felt so run down. I am also feeling really really emotional and waaaaaahhhh but not sure if I should blame Femara or my 3 year TTC anniversary coupled with a million pregnancy announcements.

2 DAYS TO GO CHEZ!!!

Barking Sorry you are feeling down. I know exactly what you mean about crap days despite your best efforts... The only thing that sort of works for me is to accept that I have to wait it out, understand I won't be feeling crap forever and try to entertain myself with books/series/work in the meantime. Also crying. Crying lots and lots.

Awright awright hags, keep your wig on, trying to keep the zen on here OK?Transfer, what transfer?

Sorry for all the shit going down peeps. Erica I've heard that clomid is nasty stuff, if it's not doing the trick then maybe a bit more intervention is the way to go. No need to be feeling physically AND emotionally shafted if you can help it.

Keeping fighting off those germs Barking.

Wotcha hags. chez ZEN, nothing exciting is happening, you should be extremely calm and relaxed (EEEEEK, go transfer!)

I am still in limbo waiting for droid so nothing to report. Tests went negative eventually, scan showed all clear, my body is just REALLY reluctant to get shot of the hormones.

barking I hear the urghhh. Went to a (very lovely) friend's housewarming/new baby party at the weekend. While it was lovely to see them it was incredibly obvious that now all her friends have baybees (toddlers! fuck) and I have nothing in common with them. WAH.

vesp yep. It's like a club, and I'm not a member, but I put my application in first! It sucks that by the time I might be a member, they will all no doubt have moved to the second baby club, so I'll still not be relevant!!

Anyway. Tomorrow's Wednesday. Just a normal, boring old Wednesday, hey Chez .

Still in lethargic lurgy land here. Not properly, identifiably ill, but not feeling well enough to do anything useful. Like scrape wallpaper off walls before the electrician comes on Thursday....

Thanking ee hags, think sticky thoughts for me tomorrow... Off for some extra sticky making acu shortly.

An update from the clinic today says that of our 8 eggies, 2 are compacting the best and 1 is showing a bit of compaction, so looking like we have some in the game and doing their thang which is a relief! They'll grade them tomorrow and we'll have a chat before transfer. I want to push for 2 in. ROCH is adamant that he only wants 1. We've discussed it before but it's a little more pressing to resolve now! WTF to do?

Chivvying thoughts for the droid Vesp.
Barking that sucks big stylee. Buckets of prawns to get you through. I think I must be lucky, there is no such club among my mates which is a blessed relief TBH.

Ooo, that's such a tough one. DCW and I are both very much not wanting a twin thing, but is it a risk to take in order to increase the chances of one? I really don't know what we'd do. I would probably defer to medical advice. I'm pretty sure at our clinic they'd only put one back due to my age not being over 40, but then would the spare survive frosting in order to have a second attempt? And would it be easier to just have to go through it all once?
And the other thing - is the twin issue purely a {higher risk pregnancy and hands full} kind of worry, or do you not plan on having more than one child, given a choice? For us, we only want one child (I can hear the 'only child!' exclamations already), so it wouldn't be a 'hey, twins! - got both kids in one go!' kind of situation, it would rethink our entire future as we would like to see it.

On balance, I think I'd go for one, unless medical opinion suggested two. Can you have the other frozen if it doesn't go back in?

Wishing you the very best of BESHly luck today Chez! When they tell you to go with a full bladder they don't mean full to bursting so don't stress about how much you need to drink - loads of us have done the utterly painful dance around practically weeing yourself in the panic of having a full bladder but when I told my consultant he said 'oh it doesn't need to be completely full - it can quite often be too full and we have to tell some to go and let some of it out!! The last time I went they were running late by 1.5 hours and I couldn't hold it (have a bladder the size of a pea!) so I let it go at about an hour's worth of wait and then drank about 4 of those puny cups they have at water fountains, 20 mins late - full enough bladder

Arm punches, head strokes, bucket loads of cod for calm, hake for happiness and plaice for positivity. COW!!!!!!!

Thinking of you SO HARD today Chez!!

Probably too late to say this now, but I would go for two embies but then I think I want 2-3 kids (ha hah ahahhahahahahha) so twins wouldn't be mega drama.

Funnily enough, in this part of the world, where most Europeans have a really comprehensive health insurance, 5 out of 6 of my friends that had kids here had twins, all boy and girl. Coincidence? Mmmhhh..

Thanks for all the good fishes and advice hags, the deed is done! We are now officially PUPO wiv twins. Boy/girl ones obvs.

After talking around pros and cons last night we decided to go in open minded and then make a decision based on the embryologists advice. He said of our 8 we had 2 good blastocysts that were the front runners, 2 compacting morulas and 4 lagging a bit further behind.

He couldn't give us any assurances that we'd have any good enough to freeze although they will tomorrow if there are any that make the grade. He also said that if we put two back in it increases the chances of pregnancy by about 5-10%, 75% single pregnancy, 25% chance of twins. So that kind of made our mind up. We wouldn't be devastated to have twins but it would have seemed a crying shame not to use the second blast to increase our chances of a take home baybee.

Transfer itself was a bit of an ordeal; my poor fanjo definitely feels a bit rummaged. Chief consultant had to be called in and it took him plus original doctor 25 mins, ultrasound and multiple pokings to get the cherrypips blown into place. I was complimented on my high pain threshold it was the kinda day. But we are home and chilling and I don't feel any different really, aside from a bit of a tender lady garden.

for the next two weeks then?

PUPO cherry, well done on surviving a rough day. Time to keep your feet warm and marvel as time completely stops over the next fortnight!

PUPO!! For the next couple if days you'll probably feel positive, marvelling in the miracle that is the female body. Then the menkul will kick in but you will be fine. Stay with us, we will talk you through it you will want to test early. DONT! It makes the menkul worse as you won't have a clear or genuine response so test when you're told to test. So excited at the thought of cherry & coco! Let those embies settle down and snuggle into your womble and let your body do what it's supposed

PUPO!!!!!!!!

Cherry & Coco. Love it.

I've been stockpiling fish here in the corner, so any time you need fish slaps they're available to anyone around to administer them .

Cherrypips!

(That's all, just )

Xxx (sorry, sorry I know I'm not supposed to do that .... Pretend I'm
Not here ... )