Get your ROC's off, Get your ROC's off honey! Knickers down, legs up and capes on in the competition for SOTM! Just Shagging part 22 - the one with all the BFPs!

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Ladies, Fred title says it all; we are the ones who shag as much as our men can cope with in order to get upduffed without the stress of scientific whatnots!

Fred rules (copied from previous Fred)

1. Thou shalt shag as much as humanly possible in order to get upduffed.
2. Thou shalt not partake of OPKs, temping, or charting.
3. Thou shalt keep symptom spotting to a minimum.
4. Thou shalt share with your fredmates where needed.

JSing lingo

ERTD = Evil Red Tide of Dooooooommmmmmm. Or AF to most others.

Viroid = This is you, dear poster. This is from the first JS thread when someone tried to type 'ladies' and it autocorrected to 'Viroids' - so there you go!

Pant snot = Egg white cervical mucus.

Doing a kitten = Getting upduffed soon after joining (warning: may induce envy in other posters).

POAS = Pee On A Stick (of the pregnancy detecting kind, not from a tree). Also known as PIAR (Pee In A Ramekin - cos we're posh birds innit). Or PIATLH (Tea light holder) PIAWG (Wine glass) or anything else you care to pee in!

Shagging like something = JSing like a teenage nymphomaniac.

Giving a hooya = Giving a much needed slap to a fellow poster in danger of slipping into ttc obsession.

Contraband = Of COURSE none of us EVER partake of any silly OPKs or temp charting. They are Contraband.

Icing = ovulating. Another autocorrect development!

Getting your Cape on = planning some serious pouncing on DH/DP

TWOT - Two Weeks of Torture!

The link to Part 21 is <a class="break-all" href="http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/2007110-Drop-all-things-contraband-we-dont-want-youre-OPKs-here-Grab-a-cape-stroke-the-unicorn-and-reserve-your-spot-in-the-pity-Jacuzzi-Its-JUST-SHAGGING-THREAD-21" target="_blank">here</a>

The current Grads Fred is <a class="break-all" href="http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/antenatal_clubs/1817751-Just-Shagging-Grads-Fred-8-Roll-up-roll-up-all-Viroids-welcome" target="_blank">here</a>

The rather nobbish article in which we became a little bit notorious is <a class="break-all" href="http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/the-dark-side-of-mumsnet-my-shocking-tour-of-the-websites-nether-regions-8905055.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here</a> 

Happy shagging shaggers!

Just booked myself an early scan for the 1st of may will be around 9 weeks then. Just dont 'feel' pregnant so it will help

Good idea something.

Today is one of those days where I question what I'm doing. My daughter has screamed at me for the past 2 hours. Why do I want another one?!

something, not that im addicted to Dr Goofle or anything but ive read countless freds about people not feeling it till week 7 or 8 so hang on in there. Either that or youll be one of the lucky ones who sail through.

red, hi! Sounds like its all go go go, im loving your zen attitude. I may take a leaf out of your book.
im cheerleading on round 3 x

Yeah I know what you mean but I just feel ' to good' if that makes sense? I know im worrying about nothing but thats the crazy for you!

Enjoy it something! I had hoped to be like a friend who "just felt a bit tired" in the first tri, but at six weeks I started feeling a bit rough and today I nearly vomited in the street and feel terrible most of the time. Obviously am very glad all is ok so far but BLEURGH!

I had hyperemesis with DS1 and was only sick three times with DS2. Very tired today but thats it

Okay...I need to ask. I haven't been checking my cm. Should I? Do I just have a ferret up my fanjo of a morning and see what's going on?

I don't get a lot of discharge, so it's hard to tell. A month or so back there was some (loads!) but nothing this month at all.

Am I only ovulating if I produce EWCM? I am considering going to my GP for a blood test to check I'm ov-ing.

I think I am having a wobble due to lack of J-Sing this month.

Evening ladies, hope everyone is well! I've been super busy today and having MN withdrawal now!!

Ayles, hope the witch hasn't arrived yet! I have 5 days to go and she is doing the thing she does every month which is suddenly stop giving me symptoms and therefore giving me false hope! Up until yesterday I was mega crampy and boob achey but today... nothing! Also, I've never checked cm because I just can't get on board with shoving my finger up there!! The very thought of touching my own cervix makes me feel slightly faint... totally ideal pregnancy candidate... I only go by what lands in my pants, and I've honestly never seen anything like what is described on here! ;-/

Something, early scan sounds exciting, should make it more real for you as you say. I'd make the most of feeling well. Morning sickness and two littlelies doesn't sound fun!

In other news, I had a smallscale breakdown at OH last night (seriously, I've been crying for like 2 days straight, PMT much??) Basically told him I felt I was totally alone in this ttc thing, I'm the one doing everything... eating right, giving up caffeine, alcohol, vitamins, instigating sex, stressing, worrying... yada yada. Nothing's changed for him apart from the cursory conception vitamin he takes on a night (which I had to buy!!) We've hardly been talking about it, apart from him telling me to "stop worrying, it'll happen" or a cursory "oh never mind" everytime I get my period... And how I'm starting to get seriously paranoid that something is wrong, because surely it should have happened by now! Basically I get the impression he thinks I've been shutting him out. But also he said he didn't think he had to do anything apart from show up with the sperm! So he said from now on ttc is going to be his "number one priority" (might have been useful 6 months ago...?) and he's going to make plenty of effort with eating and living right from now on (again, 6 months ago!?). He's a bit of a one for promising things and forgetting about it after a week but time will tell I guess.

Had to laugh though, he went to the gym this morning (UNHEARD OF!!) and he's cancelled on his boys night out to make my tea tonight (ALSO UNHEARD OF).

I am a hormonal wench, poor man.

oh rpopz I know I shouldn't but your post made me laugh. I had the exact same convo with my dh at the 6 month mark. he did get better with the amount of sex but still hasn't given up caffeine as far as he knows!

ayles has the witch shown? it only takes one u know!

OH will never give up caffeine. He would die. I am not exaggerating, well perhaps I am a teeny bit

I honestly genuinely don't think for a second I am upduffed, I know it only takes one little swimmer but I don't think we even dtd anywhere near the right time. No sign of AF....The bitch....

oh RPopz that sounds shit. Why does it always take a minor breakdown for us to get listened to? Good that he is making the right noises now at least.

Sorry Ayles, I also have no clue about CM and I'm not too keen on the idea of going searching for it!

Wish I knew Wil, said as much to him last night! Though slightly reassured its not just me!

When you due Ayles?

ayles on the CM, you can have a ferret but I think most people just pay close attention to loo paper when they wipe. The "Taking Charge of your Fertility" suggests quite an involved ferret and examination on a daily basis. With pictures. NAICE.

I think michonne was talking earlier about timings for DTD. This is something I have wondered about a lot and it did make me a bit despondent tbh! If the egg only lives 8 hours, say it pops out at 9.30, when you're at work...by the time you get home you've lost the chance! So I can sort of see why it can take some time as you might have a few cycles to DTD at the right time on say a weekend night. Pondery pondering.

rpopz, glad MrPopz is getting with the programme. My DH doesn't believe in vitamins so had a fight on my hands with that!

Is that true? The 8 hour thing I mean? God why does mother nature make things so bloody complicated!

Definitely not just you RPopz. I should be DTD tonight but I'm pissed off at him so don't know if I can rise to the occasion and put my game face on.

8 hours!?! How the holy fuck do people get pregnant by accident!!?

cries

Not sure I'm keen on ferreting about up my fanjo either... surely thats mr duck's job but I can't imagine he'll be hugely keen if I declare "darling just have a fiddle up my fanny and describe my mucus"

Am due today. AF generally shows up first thing so I've been waiting all day but nothing happening.

Am. Not. Happy.

Promising no??? PIAPPC?

haha Lil, dreaming about me eh How will you be able to test if I am you Mum in disguise!?

8hrs doesn't sound like long enough. Guess that's why we need the fellas waiting up there. I'm getting towards icing time now so need to fill up!

Ayles - wouldn't root for it but I am on constant knicker watch!

Sigh.
Husband has just asked me if I think we may have managed it this month.
I was very sceptical, him, not so much!

Hating the constant dissappintments and just can't see it ever getting to the point of a double line.

Sorry.

Don't blame it on the hormones
Don't blame it on the timing
Don't blame it on jsing
Blame it on the thyroid

Evening viroids! Watching OBEM.

Does anyone else type into notepad so that you can read previous posts and reply? I find I'm away so long you've all had massive chats and it takes ages to catch up otherwise!

Right - here's why you shouldn't do OPKs. I've been wondering for ages why they tell you to pee on them every day, but they don't give you enough to last the month. Actually read the instructions today and discovered that you're not meant to start doing it until the proper day in your cycle. Dammit!

Can you believe I was at uni 6 years and am meant to be intelligent!?

lil I got laughed at and told I was 'just tense', how come you got sex toys!?! Wowee :D I just find now I am finally actually liking dtd again, after 4 years of dreading it. I am so surprised he married me...

ayles willing the witch to stay away. Tried a hot bath? That brought on my 9-day delay last month.
I don't notice my CM except when I ovulate - it's thicker. Gross. What about OPKs? (don't get obsessed!). I thought I wasn't ovulating, but the smiley face put my mind at rest.

something plenty of people don't even realise they're pregnant coz of lack of symptoms. Everyone's different, but you do what you feel is right for you and if an early scan puts your mind at rest then go for it. Very exciting!

My friend has hyperemesis, that is not fun :(

wil I don't have kids but I have a horse and I feel your pain - takes all my money, all my time and today he went to bite me because he's grumpy he was stuck in the stable. Yeah, thanks. There's gratitude for you.

RPopz oh my god I know what you mean! You poor thing - I have a sad day when I know I've got ERTD and my dh never seems to 'get' it. He's always like 'oh well, it'll happen'. He drinks he smokes and I'm the one there trying to be healthy, remembering to take folic acid, being careful what I eat etc... plus I have a really focussed job with a lot of stress and all the time the worry hits me about how the hell will I be able to take time out to have a baby. And also how will we afford it on only 6 weeks pay then statutory!? Meanwhile he goes out all night and doesn't come home because he goes drinking with his mates. I'm there freaking out the next morning - not because I think he's been up to anything but more of a 'how the hell can this guy be a father!?' type of thing.

I'm so glad you managed to have a chat with yours though and he's going to make an effort. Bless him. You're not a wench, it's an emotional time and yes it's hard for them but at the same time you're the one preparing your body each month for pregnancy and they will never understand that.

Hang on juniper have a ferret?! What's a ferret??

Every month when I don't get pg I wonder the same thing - how the fuck do people get pregnant by accident!?!?!

The 8 hour thing just freaked me out...my dh works double shifts...

Oh min :(

Mine asks if we've made a baby and I have to try not to get irritated.

lala have a ferret sort of means have a look, investigate. So if I were to have a ferret I would be having a look - to see if I am producing ewcm -

Hang on in there minion, you will get there. As I said to DH yesterday, we only have to wait so long because we're going to get the BEST one. xx

I will consult Zita but I believe the egg doesn't last very long at all. Stupid biology.

In my particularly bitter moments I consider that no one gets pg accidentally and think that all these "oh, only did it once, tee hee" people are raging liars and blatently at it like knives.

lala you could also have a shufti/shifty at your EWCM, but the ferret does imply something a little more physical non ?

Quite finger crosses for ayles

Hello,

Good idea about making notes in Notepad as you read along lala, I should try that because I've already forgotten most of what I've read!

OK - Awkward OHs, yep, been there, done that, got the T shirt and DP has the Vas reversal scar to prove it. It's not easy, and sometimes you can feel resentful if you're the one doing all the work to ttc. Men are simple creatures, sometimes they need things spelling out for them...

8 hour egg thing - I thought it was about 12-24 hours actually? Have no real idea, but I think it's longer than 8. And sperm can live up there for several days, so assuming you've done it a day or so before, there should be swimmers hanging around for the elusive egg. Or so the theory goes.

I too get pissed off with the accidental-differs. How the hell does anyone get pg by accident when the odds are SO stacked against it?

Right now for my real expertise - CM. Once I learned what to look for, I did have a few cycles of 'ferreting' , basically just trying to get a sample of what's going on up there. It was really informative to be honest, and quite reassuring to see true egg-white CM in all its glory. It's interesting to see it change throughout the cycle. Once I got the hang of that, I don't bother now because I usually get plenty when I wipe and don't need to furtle any further!

If you don't get any obvious EWCM, drink more water, and I've read that grapefruit juice is supposed to improve your CM so that can't do any harm either!

I'm knackered and pissed off today. I had quite a physical day outside, then got home and was just chilling waiting for DP before we took the dogs out. He arrived home in a stinking mood, and huffed straight back out on an errand, leaving me to walk the dogs alone. I HATE taking them out alone in the dark, I get a bit frightened. So I told him off. A lot. He's making me tea now, so he might be forgiven...

Oh fuck, at the risk of everyone throwing rocks at me, I got pg 'by accident' last time. By which I mean, it was one occasion and we knew what we'd done but figured it would be ok and I quite wanted to be pg anyway I naively just assumed this would happen again .

Hope you're ok min.

Is Ayles the only one possibly PIAPPC any time soon? Any other BFP hopes to cling to?