Get your ROC's off, Get your ROC's off honey! Knickers down, legs up and capes on in the competition for SOTM! Just Shagging part 22 - the one with all the BFPs!

[DulcetMoans]

Ladies, Fred title says it all; we are the ones who shag as much as our men can cope with in order to get upduffed without the stress of scientific whatnots!

Fred rules (copied from previous Fred)

1. Thou shalt shag as much as humanly possible in order to get upduffed.
2. Thou shalt not partake of OPKs, temping, or charting.
3. Thou shalt keep symptom spotting to a minimum.
4. Thou shalt share with your fredmates where needed.

JSing lingo

ERTD = Evil Red Tide of Dooooooommmmmmm. Or AF to most others.

Viroid = This is you, dear poster. This is from the first JS thread when someone tried to type 'ladies' and it autocorrected to 'Viroids' - so there you go!

Pant snot = Egg white cervical mucus.

Doing a kitten = Getting upduffed soon after joining (warning: may induce envy in other posters).

POAS = Pee On A Stick (of the pregnancy detecting kind, not from a tree). Also known as PIAR (Pee In A Ramekin - cos we're posh birds innit). Or PIATLH (Tea light holder) PIAWG (Wine glass) or anything else you care to pee in!

Shagging like something = JSing like a teenage nymphomaniac.

Giving a hooya = Giving a much needed slap to a fellow poster in danger of slipping into ttc obsession.

Contraband = Of COURSE none of us EVER partake of any silly OPKs or temp charting. They are Contraband.

Icing = ovulating. Another autocorrect development!

Getting your Cape on = planning some serious pouncing on DH/DP

TWOT - Two Weeks of Torture!

The link to Part 21 is <a class="break-all" href="http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/2007110-Drop-all-things-contraband-we-dont-want-youre-OPKs-here-Grab-a-cape-stroke-the-unicorn-and-reserve-your-spot-in-the-pity-Jacuzzi-Its-JUST-SHAGGING-THREAD-21" target="_blank">here</a>

The current Grads Fred is <a class="break-all" href="http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/antenatal_clubs/1817751-Just-Shagging-Grads-Fred-8-Roll-up-roll-up-all-Viroids-welcome" target="_blank">here</a>

The rather nobbish article in which we became a little bit notorious is <a class="break-all" href="http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/the-dark-side-of-mumsnet-my-shocking-tour-of-the-websites-nether-regions-8905055.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here</a> 

Happy shagging shaggers!

game changer, I like that! I hope so too!

dulcet I think it should be illegal for children to be as cute as dn. he us now learning colours with dh, copying everything dh says and does. I wish he'd have a paddy so I could be annoyed with him for 5 minutes rather than feel like the mushy mess I do right now!

Bless your DH again Min! He's being very sweet and protective! I guess there's no secrets in the cabin crew world then!? If you ground yourself will everyone assume you're upduffed?

Yep! I can go into main office and work in there with theother gitlsgirls on mat or the crcreation where all the crew will be at any one time.

Wow that is a bit of a nuisance! Better safe than sorry though I guess x

WTAF did my last msg even say? I was trying to multitask whilst cooking and putting my flowers in a vase (bless the husband), it meant to say I can go in head office with the other girls who are grounded or into the crew room where I will see virtually everyone.
Not sure what's for best tho.

Are there lots of girls grounded at the mo? You might have a nice little gang!

Just cleared out my contraband drawer, stuff that's collected in there over the months years. Empty boxes of CB ovulation sticks and pregnancy tests. Stupid technology! I've done the ov stick stuff and its not proved useful to me. Didn't stress me out or anything, I say give it a go if you are beginning to feel lost in the TTC process.

I need to go out a run really but can not be arsed. Lazy fat pig! Haha.

Congrats minion that's great news and good to see it in writing on the digi :)

If you're even thinking about running Dulcet, you're a step better than me. I've just eaten a massive meal and am stuffed.

It's tricky Lil. Maybe DH could focus on the fact that at the moment you get all the fun time with DN but you get to send him home when he's tired and grumpy and you don't have the 24/7 grind of it all. (I don't mean that to sound negative about being a parent, just that it's tiring and hard work). It's like easing yourselves in gently. Plus you'll have an amazing relationship with him as he grows as he'll remember how much fun he had at your house. I can see that it would be difficult emotionally though. And maybe by you looking after him, your SIL has more energy for doing a few things she enjoys which she couldn't normally manage? Although it's a bit cheeky of her not to arrange and stick to a pick-up time.

I am symptom spotting all over the place today. I said earlier I was starving and DP said 'maybe you're pregnant'. This doesn't help me to calm the mental . Your BFP has sent me a little bit crazy Min.

Lol Min, I got the general gist of it! I think I'd go for the girl gang too ;-)

I don't think the contraband will stress me out, unless I find out I'm not ovulating or something!! I think I need some control back. I never wanted to do it this way but... needs must. Think it will start stressing me out if I'm still not upduffed in a couple of months though and I will ditch it!

Definitely feeling lost in the world of ttc today... my cousin is having her baby today- planned c section....

How long to go Wil? Can't remember if you've already said.

OMG min that's very exciting! I've never actually seen the response come up on the digi! Fantastic, congratulations!

Don't know RPopz I reckon maybe a week. So too early really for anything. Although I could have an extra long cycle or something, it's all a bit unpredictable at the mo. I'm just going by the fact I think I ovulated... I need to calm down a bit.

Omg... is anyone watching Dead Famous DNA? What a preposterous load of bullshit!

Hi gals, wow what a day on the Fred! So much exciting news and possibilities.

Me and dh don't have any dns, I have lots of friends with kids though. Dh can be so stand offish about the ttc but other times so sweet - he made a list (following internet guide) of baby things we should buy new and things you can buy second hand or borrow. He did it off his own back - so cute. But other times I feel frustrated that I'm going through all this and he doesn't seem to notice.

wil I saw your post about careers - don't feel jealous, everyone's different and everyone finds their 'thing' - I like animals but was terrible at science and it took years until I got to where I wanted to be, but it's high pressure. Sometimes I really want to quit and run a bar with my dh, as we met in hospitality and love it.

I hate it when I have to see when my friends' children have first poo/wee/potty experience etc. It's awful. If it's not ok to put on facebook that YOU have had a poo, it's not ok to put on facebook that your child did.

min it's good that you have a plan in place for being pg - I had no idea you're meant to ground yourself until 12 weeks, that's really interesting.

It's silly but I was handling reptiles today and wondered whether it was a good idea - as they carry salmonella. but I don't think I could explain it away easily if I suddenly decided not to.

Trying not to get impatient. TWOTTY-TWOT-TWOT-TWOT (TWIT?)

That is a beautiful digi result, min. I am so excited for you! Will you miss flying if you ground yourself the whole time? I am one of those weird people who likes air travel and doesn't get too stressed out by it, but I think if I was pregnant I'd be a lot more hesitant.

I was up late last night because I could not stop farting around on the internet and get myself to bed, even though I was exhausted. So lazy. Sad, really.

OK, so here's the historical timeline and future plan:

IVF Cycle 1: 5 eggs, 2 blastocysts frozen, 1 normal embryo post testing (yay - but let's make more!)
IVF Cycle 2: 6 eggs, 2 blastocysts frozen, 0 normal embryos (sad. Let's go again.)
IVF Cycle 3: 2 eggs (!), 1 blastocyst frozen ..... and now we wait, 7-10 days to get the genetic testing results.

Total count is one good one on ice, with the potential for one more. My goal was to wait until we had two genetically viable embryos before doing a transfer, and transfer just one, leaving the other as a backup/future transfer. The success rate at my clinic with two untested embryos is 65%. The success rate with two tested, normal embryos is also 65%. I would like to try to avoid twins (transferring two tested embryos means a very high chance of twins, at least 50%), so I'm electing to do a single transfer. Despite my weight loss I'm still not a tiny person, and carrying twins brings health complications even to very thin women. One baby at a time, please! Though of course if something happened and we ended up with twins, I'd take 'em happily :)

The big decision we'll to have to make is what to do if this last embryo turns out NOT to be normal. Do we just bite the bullet and transfer our sole good one ... or do IVF a fourth time? We will cross that bridge if we come to it.

Actually, maybe it's 10-14 days. I don't remember. It's going to feel like an eternity. Tick tock....

oh red you are so strong to still be so positive after all UV been thru. I didn't realise you were still waiting for news on the latest frembryo. I completely get what you say about not wanting to risk twins, the idea of getting to ivf and ending up with twins scares the life out of me! try and keep busy while you are waiting for the results. and be kind to yourself lady.

I meant up there to say the success rate with ONE tested embryo is 65 -- same as two untested.

Thanks lil. It is hard to stay positive sometimes but I find it is even harder to feel miserable.

lala maybe you should mention the reptile handling and poss salmonella risk to your GP as I think it might be risky. In the meantime, could you wear some disposable gloves to handle? You could perhaps tell your colleagues that you've developed a skin condition, needing steroid cream and therefore don't want to risk getting that on the reptiles master in deceit me

red you are amazing. And so very strong. With attitude and humour (humor) like you have, you astound me with your positivity, I salute you! You go girl. (Imagine that in a ny accent, cause believe me, coming from my mouth it sounds like the queens saying it).

One thing tho.... Do Americans really use farting around? I thought it was a Brit thing? I've never heard an American use fart in that way! I quite like fannying around, but I know to you I'll just be saying bumming around.

I love the differences in our languages.

Oh btw, if you hadn't of guessed, yep it's another early wake up. Great.

Oh Red, you make me feel guilty for being such a whiney little drama queen! I think I need to channel some of your positivity. 14 days sounds like a long wait! Hope you've got plenty to keep yourself busy with! Personally I've always like to the thought of twins... but in theory which is v different to in practise!

Lol, I always thought of farting around as an Englishism too! Not sure why though.

Better get used to these early mornings I suppose Min!

popz the sad part of the story was I could have kept kipping if it wasn't for the elephants that inhabit the top floor.
Stomp stomp stomp. Every day. Shellfish the lot of them.
And downstairs we have a soon to be 3 year old who really doesn't like going to bed at 7 so she slams her doors continually until her equally loud dad shouts at her to stop shouting!
Grrrr. Cannot wait to move, my new next door neighbours are old ish. I'll fit right in.

Yeah red, I feel a bit pathetic now for moaning too! You have so many things to think about! And even in this process you have a TWOT stint to do, very unfair. Hopefully you get the answers sooner than that.

Do you have a move date yet min? Lost track of that bit. At least you can get out of the lifting now!

I'm at the boring stage of the cycle, CD7. We started with our capes early this month though, CD5. See if that has any impact. Can you ovulate at the same time as having ERTD do you know? And then have like 21 day LP?! Am I just grasping at straws here?!

dulcet no confirmed date as yet but hoping in the next four weeks or so.
I have heard of people getting upduffed on cd7 or so, but turns out the swimmers stuck around till the early icing. Not sure about the 21 lp tho.
Must exist surely?

I'm cd11 Dulce so boring here too! Waiting for my smiley face peak days.... ;-) Started capes cd8 anyway.

Think you can early ov. I read another thread on here recently where someone had just started using opks and discovered she ovd on cd6 or something! No wonder we weren't catching - is what she said!

I've been wondering the same about early ov - seem to get EWCM right at the end of ERTD and then again around CD13 - which is where I am now. Spose I'd better get the cape on tonight, best not to stay up late Farting around on 'tinternet too long then!

Min Cannot wait to move, my new next door neighbours are old ish. I'll fit right in. Hah, until You're the one with the 3 year old throwing tantrums at 7pm, then your neighbours will be cursing you

Excellent that you've managed to time your upduffage for when you're about to move house. You can wander around with a clipboard pointing at things and giving out orders guilt free!