TTC After MC: The home of hopeful nipples, ovulation eyes and the most determined Mummawannabees around. Chin up, tits out!

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The Rules...

(1) A lady may only POAS on a Friday.
(2) Friday means the day that everyone calls Friday in the time zone where you spent the night.
(3) Rule (1) does not apply to POA-OPK-S, UNLESS they are being illegitimately used as surrogate HCG detectors, in which case Rule (1) most definitely does apply
(4) Rule (1) does not apply following a BFP because if you want to waste £25 a day POADigiS that's your prerogative
(5) Rule (1) does not apply if a lady is POAS in an attempt to get a BFN to prove she can start DTD with intent
(6) Rule (1) does not apply if a lady wants for unknown reason to pee on an actual stick, like a twig or some such, if that lady is unexpectedly caught short whilst tramping in the forest looking for bears.
(7) These rules (including Rule (1)) are subject to the change at any time if the ladies of the Posifrickentivity thread decide on a whim come up with empirical evidence to prove that it is luckier to POAS on any other day of the week
(8) Violators of Rule (1) shall be subject to fish throwing.

And as a grand finale, why not pledge to NEVER POAS before 14DPO?

And a peak??

Thanks seasides, English and sebs

Yes I guess whatever we are advised, ttc as soon as poss is what's going to happen! I'll get in touch with my midwife tomorrow to see what she says (had very optimistically already booked in with her last week). Feels like things are all happening naturally though, so hopefully moving on will be straightforward.

Some for you all and thankyou for the lovely welcome.

English I'm not saying I'm right. I'm just hypothesising. If your periods have always been light then that might be normal for you.

I've always had fairly light af, but this is lighter than normal. I normally have 4 days of bleeding. Good Hypothesis though... So hard not knowing what on earth is going on!!

This is a peak stick.

Apologises for the skanky windowsill. I think hope that's a make up mark!!

The high sticks look no different to the low sticks IMO. sometimes I can see that the oestrogen line has gone a bit fainter but usually I really can't notice anything visually.

Hi HH sorry you have had to find us! but we are a friendly bunch! and boy can these girls pick you up when you are down :) hope your stay is short and sweet.

As for my mc, I didn't need any intervention other than 2 follow up scans as there was still a bit of lining left, but all past naturally. I bled for 11 days and got my first af 6.5 weeks after bleeding stopped. EPU nurse told us we could try again as soon as we were ready and that they only advise waiting one cycle for dating a new pregnancy no other reason. I was 9+5 x

Welcome anyhuman, and sorry for your loss. I hope you won't have to hang around here for long. As for ttc again, the reason you should wait until you get a BFN is simply that you're unlikely to ovulate before then; if you've still got pregnancy hormones in your system your body naturally assumes you are pregnant, so won't release an egg.

English good work on getting so drunk you fell off your bike! Hope the knee isn't too bad today. My first AF was rally light too, only one day of full flow and a couple of spotting/light bleeding.

The spa was lovely, feeling very relaxed right now and quite virtuous too as I used the gym and the pool in between my treatments! Come home to an empty house, DH must have taken DD out to the park, so might catch up on some rubbish telly while I can.

Afternoon, folks! It's my birthday today (43! ffs!!) and as a present I seem to have started AF on day 23 of my wtf cycle. The thing is I'm not sure I actually ovulated, been using OPKs for the last 15 days - I suppose I could have just missed it but who knows?! I thought I would have to wait a lot longer to get back to "normal" but I did notice I felt VERY premenstrual the last couple of days, kept picking pointless arguments with dh and nearly cried with frustration at work on Friday, so I wasn't completely surprised to find I had started bleeding this afternoon. I guess I'm ever so slightly disappointed that I wasn't one of the miracle people who get upduffed immediately after mc, but I feel quite positive that we can now start ttc with intent.

Officelady I didn't ovulate in my WTF cycle. I was still testing positive until just after my AF finished. I think it far more common for your pregnancy hormones to reduce slowly until they trigger AF than it is for them to disappear quickly and trigger OV.

'Congrats on your body getting back into a regular cycle again' card heading your way

MissH just saw your post from this morning - literally lol!!! Glad you seem to be bearing up well, just make sure you don't put on to brave a face and get some proper TLC as well xx

Congratulations omana that's lovely news.

I have less good news I'm afraid, only 13dpo and heading for another loss I think, just found some pink when I wiped, don't think boobs are as sore either and have a stinking cold to top it all off. And staying with the in laws so makes it even worse so gutted

Thanks everyone. Think its actually starting to sink in now!

Vipers as requested, my stats:

Omama TTC #2 since Mar '12. MMC Jun '13

MissH hope you are doing ok. Thinking of you.xx

Anyhumanheart sorry for your loss. I miscarried naturally but had an erpc the next day as it hadn't all come away. I sopped bleeding after around 2-3 weeks, & I did a hpt about 3wks post MC & got a negative result, so started ttc straight away. Although the midwife recommended waiting a couple of months for my cycles to get back to normal, we had already been ttc for over a year at that point, so didn't want to delay things any longer. Its a completely personal decision - if you feel ready then go for it

officelady many happy returns!

Oh LaceyLee I'll keep my fingers & toes crossed that this one's a sticky bean for you. Are you with the IL's for long?

Lacey darling most people wouldn't even know they were pregnant at 13dpo and I hear stories of a breakthrough bleed at the time AF is due all the time on various TTC boards I've read only for the bleed to be light and then disappear, the poster tests and finds out they are pregnant. So I really don't think you need to worry at the moment xxxx

Aww sebs you're right... Just reread my post & I think it's a bit dramatic! Very stressful tho. I would LOVE to be one of those ppl that don't find out for like 3 months, would be better than stressing at every tiny thing!

Popping in and wow this thread moves fast. Welcome newbies but I hope you're not here long in the nicest possible way.

MissH I'm so so bloody sorry, it is so unfair, I hope you're as ok as you can be under the circumstances

Congrats to the bfps too, amazing news that gives us all hope xxx

I've been offline for almost a week, having a shitty time trying to come to terms with mmc and dh and I are just not getting on well. Had a big talk this eve which has cleared the air a bit. We're both still scared to death of tith so I'll probably be on this thread forever. Ended up drinking like a fish this weekend in a pathetic attempt to stop thinking about it all but I just became an emotional drunk can I please have some huge fish slaps? Tomorrow is a new week and all that... X

Oh Cake, have a bucket of trout

It is really hard to get your head round what's happened and the hormone trip that you're sent on doesn't help. I think also partners can find it very difficult to relate because their experience of pregnancy and pregnancy loss is so different from ours. Tonight I got out the scan photo of our little bean taken at 7+5 and re-read the report done at the time saying everything was developing normally. I don't know why I looked at it as it made me feel sad, like I knew it would. I still find it hard to accept that come September I won't be meeting my baby, because for 10 weeks I spent every day planning for his or her little life.

BUT there is nothing to say that all of us here can't and won't get our much wanted babies, even if it takes longer than we'd hoped and we have to put up with a ton of shit along the way. I'm sure that you'll feel more positive when you and your dh are getting on better - as others here have said, things seem so much worse when you're not communicating with the one person you really need right now.

And don't worry too much about tith and ttc - it'll all kick off when you're ready. Dh and I got back in the saddle on Tuesday, exactly 2 weeks after the erpc. I seemed to have ewcm and thought we should give it a go. We were both nervous but it was fine - a little uncomfortable at first and I was def only keen for something quick and perfunctory (so sexy), but we were at it again two nights later and everything was good and no discomfort at all. We want to conceive asap but for now I'm just enjoying having time with dh and being normal after 3 weeks of being in the middle of a waking nightmare. I'm sure you'll both know when you're ready.

And I now have to tell myself sternly that I actually have no idea for sure whether or not I ovulated this week and am therefore most definitely NOT in the 2ww and instead am just waiting for the WTF cycle to end so I can get back to the opks. I am most certainly not googling how to celebrate Christmas birthdays based on my new fantasy edd Fish slaps all round!

Hi all. Looks like I'm going to be properly back on this thread soon. I knew it wasn't looking great and as I was speaking to the mw today I thought I would do a test so I had the max info to give her. On Fri I had a 3+ on a cb digi and today with very concentrated (sorry tmi) fmu I got only a faint positive with lloyds pharmacy test. My question is, I'm only 5+3 today so too early for a scan. What would you say/ask the mw? Should I just say I don't think the pregnancy is viable? I imagine they'll just tell me to wait for mc to happen given that it's so early. Sorry for the mememe post I just know that you ladies are a great source of knowledge when it comes to this sort of thing.

*The not looking great was from lack of progesterone-related symptoms since Thurs even though HCG was at that point still rising.

Penguin sweetie, you poor thing! I know exactly how you feel, and know that I'd be jumping to the same conclusions, but I am duty bound to tell you what you already know. Tests vary enormously and symptoms come and go. Until you have more definite proof, all the midwives will treat you as if you are still pg. My EPU won't turn you away because you're early, but will hurrump a bit. My midwife last time advised me to talk vaguely about some cramping to get an early scan!

If you do go on to mc, how many will that be? I hope you can start getting tested soon for any causes. I have had several MCs that have started in a similar way to this, and am now hopefully getting some answers.

And lastly a big enveloping squeeze from me. Take care of yourself x

Thanks Tanny I appreciate the support. It would only be my second so no chance of investigations just yet. I guess around 5 weeks it would be called a chemical pregnancy right?

penguin, I'm so sorry all doesn't seem to be well. I second what tanny says - and I would try and get a scan, they might be able to reassure you. I do hope your instincts are wrong - yes, it would count as a chemical, if you're right.

On the 'all tests are different note' - I took three this morning, all different brands. The first had a 'you're imagining it' shadow, the one liberated from my friend's hospital had a visible double line, and the FR has a faint, but distinct and stronger second line! It's been over a year since the EP, and I really didn't think this would happen again - I was getting sure my tube was blocked. I'm that usual tangle of emotions - over the moon that something has finally happened, and terrified about finding out it's another ectopic and I'll lose the other tube and be infertile. I've had a sob, left DH a voicemail (he's in a ship in the North Sea, of course, until Friday, with no communications) and am just staring at it over and over. Every time I look, I can't believe the second line is really there.

The funny thing is, both my mum and sister were convinced I'd get pg in March, which was when this would have been conceived. They're going to be so smug!

And of course, now I keep thinking I spent all day yesterday digging and lugging bricks around, and had 2 glasses of wine the night before...this is going to slow my garden renovation down!!

Seasides hold the phone! Brilliant news! Fish slaps and all that, but brilliant news! So made up for you.

Penguin I wouldn't call it a chemical pregnancy. All mine have been between 5 and 7 weeks and have all been recorded as MC. If (god forbid) you are in the position to need testing, they need to all count...

A CP is one that occurs before 5 weeks or a gestational sac is visible, according to MA.

Saying all that, really still carrying the hope that it isn't either a CP or MC...

seasides congrats, this sounds promising!! Fx that this turns out to be a textbook pregnancy. Totally understand how you feel, when I got pg after mc1 I was filled with fear.

penguin agree with tanny. All tests are diff do unless you were using the same test with FMU every time you are not really doing a like for like comparison. You should go to your local EPU. I have visited my EPU in both miscarriages at 5+3, and second time I was not bleeding. They see everyone and do not turn anyone away. Instead of worrying about it, best you go and see them. I do know of one from our thread who even saw a hb at 5+3.

Btw just wondering why would it be classified as a chemical and who actually classified? I had mc1 at 5+3 and my notes from EPU say: complete mc, don't mention anything about it being a chemical.