You can do it by charting, analysing, testing, and worrying, but we prefer... JUST SHAGGING PART 20!!

[Nessalina]

Ladies, Fred title says it all; we are the ones who shag as much as our men can cope with in order to get upduffed without the stress of scientific whatnots!

Fred rules (copied from previous Fred)

1. Thou shalt shag as much as humanly possible in order to get upduffed.
2. Thou shalt not partake of OPKs, temping, or charting.
3. Thou shalt keep symptom spotting to a minimum.
4. Thou shalt share with your fredmates where needed.

JSing lingo

ERTD = Evil Red Tide of Dooooooommmmmmm. Or AF to most others.

Viroid = This is you, dear poster. This is from the first JS thread when someone tried to type 'ladies' and it autocorrected to 'Viroids' - so there you go!

Pant snot = Egg white cervical mucus.

Doing a kitten = Getting upduffed soon after joining (warning: may induce envy in other posters).

POAS = Pee On A Stick (of the pregnancy detecting kind, not from a tree). Also known as PIAR (Pee In A Ramekin - cos we're posh birds innit). Or PIATLH (Tea light holder) PIAWG (Wine glass) or anything else you care to pee in!

Shagging like something = JSing like a teenage nymphomaniac.

Giving a hooya = Giving a much needed slap to a fellow poster in danger of slipping into ttc obsession.

Contraband = Of COURSE none of us EVER partake of any silly OPKs or temp charting. They are Contraband.

Icing = ovulating. Another autocorrect development!

Getting your Cape on = planning some serious pouncing on DH/DP

TWOT - Two Weeks of Torture!

The link to Part 19 is <a class="break-all" href="http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/1906908-Come-and-join-us-on-the-brand-new-rather-fabulous-and-very-slightly-notorious-or-so-wed-like-to-think-JUST-SHAGGING-PART-19" target="_blank">here</a>

The current Grads Fred is <a class="break-all" href="http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/antenatal_clubs/1817751-Just-Shagging-Grads-Fred-8-Roll-up-roll-up-all-Viroids-welcome" target="_blank">here</a>

The rather nobbish article in which we became a little bit notorious is <a class="break-all" href="http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/the-dark-side-of-mumsnet-my-shocking-tour-of-the-websites-nether-regions-8905055.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here</a> <img loading="lazy" class="inline-flex mumsnet-emoji" alt="Grin" src="https://www.mumsnet.com/build/assets/grin-D7Eg_B6y.png">

Happy shagging shaggers!

juniper my bbt thermometer stores temp. I got it from eBay for about £3. babymad its called. and my app adjusts the screen to show whatever temp goes on the chart. not that I ever ever use contraband of course!

My thermometer was from eBay u used it a few times but who the chuffing heck has got time for that ? I barely remember to take vitamins.

Dulcet sorry about your cat - what is it with pets and xmas they pick the worst time. X

Cosy my aim was to be carry pet lady (more room to diversify that trad crazy cat lady ) , but may now be puppy stealer :)
Yay to cancelled trip and I believe in fairies !!

Still no ertd and now have painful bits which is obvs punishment for shagging just for fun. :(

Today I'm 2 weeks late and not pg and the next period is due in two weeks.

Juniper I have this one BBT

I've just checked it and it does store the previous temperature, but quickly flashes off again, so you'd have to be quick to read it - not sure how difficult that would be with visual impairment. Maybe there's one out there with a bigger display?

I also use an app - Fertility Friend ,and enter my temp on there. It adjusts to whatever temp you have, so that wouldn't be a problem.

Beetle how are you not going totally crazy at 2 weeks late? Have you POAS at all (sorry if you've already told us, I'm not v good at remembering who is at what stage!)

http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/390657426998?nav=SEARCH bbt is the one I have. you press button to take temp and it beeps so you know UV done it in the dark, it beeps 3times when its finished and I press button again to turn it off, although it does turn itself off after a bit. then when I'm properly awake I press and hold the button and it displays the last temp taken. it will be there until I take another temp. I also use fertility friend, really good app. if you do start using it let one of us know as you can get free VIP usage (normally a paid upgrade) for the referral.

sorry about all the pets. although it sounds like you are all starting relationships with new ones. I don't have any let's but if I did Itd be a cat. my mum just got a kitten, so cute!

beetle if the weird bleeding was AF would you be due any time now then?

red its Tuesday already! hope the time is going quickly for you.

bear Essie if ur out there, hi!

bbt hopefully link works this time...

Good grief viroids! You're all at it! Whatever happened to just shagging?!
When you use contraband you make the pink unicorn cry!

Seriously though, should we be initiating some sort of contraband swear box type thing? We've got to have some standards right?!

ness I'm sure it's all just leftover from before we discovered JS'ing...a swear box might be a good idea though. In my last post I was swearing off all contraband.

I guess part of it is trying to gain some degree of control over this process which seems to offer absolutely none at all. Completely frustrating!

Spent some time today with one of my close friends I met through the molar pregnancy forum and her little one. She gave me a bit of a pep talk so I'll spread some DON'T GIVE UP, KEEP BELIEVING from her!

Hurrah for pep talks! I need one of them. All my friends IRL have found it so easy , it's great to have you guys to vent to when it gets me down.

And, yeah, I think it's definitely tempting to indulge in contraband from time to time eyes OPKs in bathroom guiltily, but we have our JSing capes to wear with pride, so open discussion should perhaps be frowned upon!

Just caught up on a bit more thread, sounds like there's some crazy cycles out there! Beetle, how long are you going to go without ERTD before you go see the docs - surely there's a good chance you're upduffed?!

nessa

I won't pelt you with jaffa cakes because I am being a good girl and obeying the rules!!

There are some rebellious j-shaggers on this thread

Ho ladies I am a serial lurker been watching this thread, any way I've come running back to my security blanket (you lot) as I've got a private acan booked in for tonight and I'm scared! I'm 7+6 or 5

I'm back to just shagging around ovulation predicted by opks , we missed it this month so have actually genuinely just had a shag for the sake of it!

Oh, very best of luck cookie xxx

Thanks for the recommendations for contraband. Am having a look but as I'm allergic to ebay I may not be breaking the rules yet looking on Amazon.

I love you ladies, you're so funny!

Just been naughty and looked on Amazon for ICs...what have you lot done to me?! You can get 20 for less than £3!!! If I order any then I KNOW I will get obsessed with them, but at £2.odd, how do I resist?!

Someone take away my bank card and cancel my amazon account so I can't buy anything. Please!

• pressed the post button too soon!

Hooya me please.

Hooya @ Spotti

The drive me mad the first 2 months ttc last year and stopped them, only using opks right now to learn a bit about my cycle after my last MC. If you don't need to know yet DON'T buy them! £2 is cheap but not enough to risk your mental health for!

My friend and I were talking about OPKs today and agreed they are a recipe for driving you a bit mad. Resist, resist spotti hooya THWACK

Well, to return to the spirit of the thread, there has been no JSing around here for a couple of days, DH has to store up the swimmers for the SA tomorrow. Actually quite fancy it so hope he's ready tomorrow evening!

My scan went well. The baby had a heart beat!

Yay Cookie !!!! Brilliant!

I will not pelt Jaffa cakes too wasteful! I was only imparting my advice, I would not partake in contraband of course except the darn cbfm that dh wanted me to use grr. which by the way is a pain in the ass, don't bother wasting your money! I'm looking forward to the twot so I can pee into the toilet first thing rather than a cup!

Decided to stop moping and crack on with studying so I booked my next exams for end of the month. that should keep my mind occupied and away from baby's contraband

ahh cookie cross post sorry. that's fantastic news. bet it felt amazing to see! hope you and dh are doing OK now x

no not cross post, my phone just didn't fully update, weird!

juniper amazon rather than eBay?

or if you want celcius I'll stop now I promise

Hooray, cookie! What lovely news :)

Stay off the internet spotti it's a god-awful place that crushes the spirit of JSing!

lil the time IS going quickly, actually! I have been busy at work; I had choir practice last night, which was a nice distraction (last few rehearsals I either couldn't make or were canceled due to snow); tonight I have a date with two girlfriends to go out for some Cuban food, and a sip of wine (I've stayed off the caffeine per the post-retrieval instructions, but I must make an exception for alcohol); and I am in the middle of, ironically since juniper mentioned him, Dan Brown's "Digital Fortress."

Thursday will be here fast. I am practicing positive thinking and visualizing us getting a positive phone call and then getting up early to drive to the clinic for the transfer on Friday. Anything to keep me smiling and keep the time flying.

Seems like a LOT of contraband going on around here lately. Tsk, tsk. Good old fashioned JSing may not have worked for me, but I hope it works for all of you! Seriously, I hope none of you ever have to use vaginal progesterone inserts. I have to remember to shove 'em up my hoohah three times a day and, as the saying goes, what goes up must come down. I have never felt so unsexy in all my life, what with the chalky, leaky lady parts. It's horrible. And the progesterone causes ERTD-like cramps, so it feels like AF is not only visiting but is unpacking her bags to move in. I may never JS again.