New year, new thread, fresh start and a brand spanking new injection of a hot new batch of posifrickenity! This is the year where our wombs will be comfy and our babies plentiful! TTC after MC.

[Sal1977]

2014. The year of the rainbow baby. We pledge to be positive (most of the time). We pledge to cry less, shag more and swear lots. This is the one wannamummabees!

The Rules...

(1) A lady may only POAS on a Friday.
(2) Friday means the day that everyone calls Friday in the time zone where you spent the night.
(3) Rule (1) does not apply to POA-OPK-S, UNLESS they are being illegitimately used as surrogate HCG detectors, in which case Rule (1) most definitely does apply
(4) Rule (1) does not apply following a BFP because if you want to waste £25 a day POADigiS that's your prerogative
(5) Rule (1) does not apply if a lady is POAS in an attempt to get a BFN to prove she can start DTD with intent
(6) Rule (1) does not apply if a lady wants for unknown reason to pee on an actual stick, like a twig or some such, if that lady is unexpectedly caught short whilst tramping in the forest looking for bears.
(7) These rules (including Rule (1)) are subject to the change at any time if the ladies of the Posifrickentivity thread decide on a whim come up with empirical evidence to prove that it is luckier to POAS on any other day of the week
(8) Violators of Rule (1) shall be subject to fish throwing.

And as a grand finale, why not pledge to NEVER POAS before 14DPO?

Ooh cross post sal. Will have to think about that!

Well I was told to drop some chunk by the consultant today, so really need to up my game exercise wise!

Daft I'm taking Maca, pomegranate, royal jelly and b complex. All of them are meant to help regulate cycles and encourage healthy oestrogen levels, I don't know if af responds to placebo effects, but I think my one just gone has been my healthiest for months and I feel more energised.

All in all, I would recommend them to get a nice af

Fedup glad you got through the day. I hope they get easier for you.

I tell everyone at work that it's my 4th mc. I refuse to hide it, just because I'm a stubborn old bag, and I can't stand the way we are expected to deal with our grief on our own. It did lead to an interesting conversation in supervision today, with my manager asking me to hold off trying again until things are a bit less pressured at work! Ha ha! That would make for an interesting tribunal!

SMEP starts on Friday, so she can bollocks!

Tanny that's outrageous! I hope you told your boss that they can't say that to you! I, too, am 'out and proud' about my 3 MCs. I refuse to suffer in silence and this is an ongoing part of our lives.

tanny at what boss said! Hope SMEP works for you to put that back in their face!

What is maca? In fact I've not heard of any of the things in tanny's cocktail - where do you get such delicious sounding things?

daft I'm glad the bleeding appears to be getting to 'normal' and hope that's the end of the random mid cycle stuff.

Just scoffed most of a bag of giant chocolate buttons when got in the door... Whoops!

Only thing I can remember is you may get up duffed if a bird poos on you!!

Ps. sal can they do anything re sperm morphology or is that not 'treatable'? Glad there is a plan for next pregnancy and fx there won't be any 4.5k treatments required.

wing so sorry to hear of all you've endured recently, and I hope you and DH are OK. Mine was pretty gutted but stoic at the same time, but definitely moved on more than I have now which is sometimes nice, sometimes frustrating! Men can be a complicated bunch sometimes!

Otters 1. That FB thing is just perfect, I'm all about #5 at the moment, and 2. I love your screen name! Did you ever see the BBC weather forecast where they got the woman to say it out loud? Arf!

Sal I often worry what my beautician lady thinks when presented with my fanjo, so I'm glad you just see the £ signs! Great news r.e. your appt today, onwards and definitely upwards!

Just had a lovely bath and having dinner cooked for me by 'im indoors, then it's bed, book and NO SEX! Woohoo! SMEP is exhausting!

Old wives tale: don't DTD with the window open. Can't see the logic, unless a squirrel nipped in and stole DHs nuts...

I'm normally thinking about my lunch Parsley!

It's got that bad that instead of hitting the gym, I'm hitting the and I don't even really want it!! Should have gone to gym as a good thrash about would have done me good!

I used to fork out for holly woods / brazilians but soon realised the £40 wasn't worth it when the husband didn't care! Now I mostly get the immac out when going for a date with the willy cam!!! (Which in recent months has been surprisingly frequent)

Love it how everyone is woo hoo to no sex night! I'm just waiting for stupid af to turn up so I can get on with ttc again. I'm too late after suspected ov to be pregnant now so just a waiting game for the bitch witch.

Ugh - my distraction techniques not working as I open my 'style at home' magazine ahead of our extension and first page I open is that super cute fairy advert worth the baby asleep on its mummy dressed as a super hero. Ouch.

Oh I do love hearing about the cocktails of pills and potions we all take in our mission to get upduffed! I'm popping some rather expensive Zita West preconception vits and snake fish oil, and mega strength folic acid at the mo'. Who knows if it makes a difference? It certainly makes my pee sunshine colourful I also started acupuncture the week after my ERPC - I had that desperate 'I HAVE to do something, everything is out of my control' feeling following the mc and acupuncture seemed more attractive than hitting the gym. I am loving it though - it give me half an hour a week to talk in-depth about periods and cm and cycles with someone IRL IYSWIM? What's the benefit of aspirin? I've heard it mentioned but haven't done the research on why it's beneficial...

fedup I'm trying so hard to resist the as I overdid it over Christmas and kind of numbed my feelings with it for three weeks. It's always been my crutch. Doesn't help that when I got home from work there was a 'thanks for crippling yourself with debt and taking out one of our mortgages' parcel from the Halifax which contains a rather naice bottle of red. It's calling to me from the kitchen! I have vowed to resist a drink until a week on Friday when it will be my birthday and a few days before ov! Then I shall abstain for the 2ww (maybe...!)

parsley I have indeed seen that BBC clip but had totally forgotten about it! Off to YouTube now! I choose the name as when DP and I had our first Valentine's I got him a cheeky card which had written on it: Valentine, you make me wetter than an otter's pocket!

otter reminds me of when we got our "hamper" from Halifax... Clearly didn't borrow pay them as hefty repayments as you as we only got a half bottle of white!! The husband does make some good use of the toolkit though!

Half a glass in and feel a bit pissed. Sure sign af is on her way. I'm stopping for the weekend (odd I know but I want wine to get me through tomorrow and Thursday) and no one please tell me I need to find something like yoga instead to help me cope as I know that, but today I need wine and that is it!!
Impressed otter tho and it will taste so much sweeter if you do wait til your birthday! Like that valentines card too....

Better slug down the old conception vits with my wine... Glug glug....

fedup I think this might be the first time I haven't slugged down my Clomid without wine I would NEVER recommend yoga over though.

Also, I just went to look at the Halifax 'hamper' - it's only a half bottle! Swines.

Nope fedup, sometimes wine is the only thing that hits the spot. Yoga just can't cut it - unless it's a yoga dvd in front of the TV with wine? That could work!

Morning all! Working from home for the rest of the week (and 3 days/wk from now on ) which means MN posting will increase about 100%...it's going to be my only allowed distraction yeah right

tanny, also horrified your boss said that. Even as a 'joke' it must have put the wind up you.

Stomach still sore from pilates . I'm made of marshmallow.

I can't believe your manager said that to you Tanny! Literally Now I doubly hope you get a BFP this month just to annoy her.

I made it to zumba and remembered how much I loved it despite my two left feet and the fact that 90% of the time I am going in the opposite direction to everyone else. I read somewhere that moderate exercise is good for blood flow to your uterus and for losing the half a stone in mince pies/turkey/chocolate can't hurt I guess.

I realised that aside from the old pillow under your bum after dtd thing I don't really know any old wives tales but according to My friend google planting a rosemary bush can help. I also read that peas contain a natural contraceptive so to avoid them when ttc.

Oh, I forgot my wives' tale: don't know if this is one, but my acupuncturist has banned me from eating cold foods! She says they stress the spleen and make for sluggish blood, so crap af. I'm taking it with a biiig pinch of salt.

seasides In that case I am doomed to failure! I prefer cold foods to hot foods

Good morning all! I'm not sure about where y'all are but it's an absolutely beautiful (if cold) day here today. I want to be out and about and not stuck in my office. Sigh.

First clomid pill was popped last night, which means that I'm a rather fetching sweaty lady today. Gotta love the side effects of fertility drugs I have to say that I had a bit of a moment when I walked into work this morning. On the side of the building was a HUGE sign which said in massive red letters 'TTC?'. The crazy ttc lady in me was slightly surprised and a little paranoid when I saw it! Apparently it's a acronym for some new project here... Go figure.

Sal - great feedback from the RMC. It sounds like they might be ruling out any clotting issues with heparin and aspirin. Interesting that she mentioned to take aspirin bfore getting upduffed too - I had read different things on whether to take it before pg, and whether to start as soon as you find out. FX that you get a BFP very very soon.

Seaside - my dh and I have been following the lean and clean diet for nearly 2 weeks, which pretty much means having eggs for breakfast just about every day. I'm starting to dread breakfast time now I'm so sick of them, but we've both lost over half a stone now with the high protein diet. Both feel so much better.

fedup - funny you mentioned the bird-poop thing. It was me that mentioned it after getting shat on 4 times in one day on holiday and then getting pg the next month. And the weird thingis - it happened to my dh on Sunday!!

My more relaxed attitude to ttc is helping loads. I'm determined not to let it prevent me from carrying on with normal life. We've booked a weekend away in Marakech for Feb, and talking about going away with friends in June. Also want to move house in the next few months - feel like we need a completely fresh start after such a horrible 2013.

That is hilarious Otters. Maybe the sign is a sign!

Argh, I am feeling so angry today! Everything and everyone is getting right on my tits.
Colleague (who knows about MC) asked me at lunch time if i'd be organising the gift for one of the directors whose wife gave birth yesterday. GO AWAY!

Preggers friend on FB (who knows about MC) shared a stupid Buzzfeed post about 'Great things about being pregnant' via private message (admittedly a message that includes our whole group of friends and has been in use for general messaging for aeons, but still) - GO AWAY!

Got a call last night from community hospital to confirm our appt with the fertility specialist we were seeing pre bfp/mc. Obviously no point going to THAT now, so that can GO AWAY too.

Also just generally giving myself a massive reality check today. I've been pinning all my hopes on getting pg again straight away, which obviously is unlikely to happen, esp as it took 18m to get the first bfp. I just know I am going to be a complete mess when AF turns up this month. I really want to be hopeful and positive about getting pg again but I also dread having those hopes dashed as per fucking usual.

Sorry, very self indulgent rant there. I am going to eat another bit of panettone and concentrate on getting to my aqua aerobics class later. Let the stress float away!

Did you do any other investigations pre-bfp parsley - i.e. any idea why it took 18 months? Must be extra awful having waited that long, and what a list of insensitive comments - I hope your friend just didn't realise what she was doing, because that's beyond thoughtless. What will happen to fertility specialist now? Do you have to go to the back of the queue again?

Just booked doc to talk about my dodgy periods. Also tried to get a gelato on the way to the bank just now and they were closed due to 'medical emergency'. Taking that as a sign that I should obey my acupuncturist on the cold foods! Got a proper hot chocolate from my favourite coffee shop instead .

otters, that sign is amazing! You must have felt like the world was watching you for a second.

Good attitude Sundance - have you found a new house, or looking? Big change.

For the first time in a year, I'm loving my job. Happily back on the sofa, researching features. I have high hopes for 2014, I hope it doesn't let me down.

seasides we could all do with a bit of your posifrickenity

parsley That sucks big time. Sometimes it feels like you're getting there and moving forward then you get drop-kicked by people who you wish knew better. Rant away, it's cathartic. Would it be beneficial for you to still see the fertility specialist as it took so long to get your BFP? Or are you not entitled to now? Also, I hear ya with regards to the reality check thing. I've convinced myself I'm going to get upduffed this month and have been working out when I can start mat leave etc. It's totally stupid but I can't help myself. When If AF comes it'll be truly fucking awful.

I feel the need to punch something today - I should probably take up boxing or something...

That really is a long list of insensitive remarks parsley
Triple - in answer to your question, I didn't do smep this month. I generally do but we were away on the day I ovulated and sharing a room with dd's so had to skip a day. Looking back at my app, we basically dtd 2 days, 1 day break, dtd 2 days through the entire cycle from cd 6 to cd 24 when I got my BFP (and DH got a cold). It wasn't intentional though. The night before I ov'd must be the one as I had loads of cm and was really horny so thought at the time it would be a worthwhile shag ive let DH think it was the night after ov though as he likes the idea of conceiving in Paris
Otherwise, I haven't done anything different this month, the only supplement I take is pregnacare conception (and DH takes the men's one too) so no magic potion.
I'm still hanging around here, feeling a bit lost and scared in case it doesn't work out and waiting for company so keeping my fingers x for you all.

Caught up with everyone's news.

Congratulations fairy! Lets hope more follow.

Tanny I can't believe your boss said that, even as a joke it's just wrong. Lets hope that you get your BFP just to annoy her.

Otter the story behind your name just made me laugh out loud.

sundance good luck with the house move. Have you bought somewhere or are you just starting to look? We moved into our first house about a month before we found out about MC and I found stripping wallpaper and re-decorating hugely therapeutic in the months following it.

Old wive's tales - Cough syrup thins CM and makes it easier for little swimmers to get to where they need to be. Eating yams will make you have twins!