New year, new thread, fresh start and a brand spanking new injection of a hot new batch of posifrickenity! This is the year where our wombs will be comfy and our babies plentiful! TTC after MC.

[Sal1977]

2014. The year of the rainbow baby. We pledge to be positive (most of the time). We pledge to cry less, shag more and swear lots. This is the one wannamummabees!

The Rules...

(1) A lady may only POAS on a Friday.
(2) Friday means the day that everyone calls Friday in the time zone where you spent the night.
(3) Rule (1) does not apply to POA-OPK-S, UNLESS they are being illegitimately used as surrogate HCG detectors, in which case Rule (1) most definitely does apply
(4) Rule (1) does not apply following a BFP because if you want to waste £25 a day POADigiS that's your prerogative
(5) Rule (1) does not apply if a lady is POAS in an attempt to get a BFN to prove she can start DTD with intent
(6) Rule (1) does not apply if a lady wants for unknown reason to pee on an actual stick, like a twig or some such, if that lady is unexpectedly caught short whilst tramping in the forest looking for bears.
(7) These rules (including Rule (1)) are subject to the change at any time if the ladies of the Posifrickentivity thread decide on a whim come up with empirical evidence to prove that it is luckier to POAS on any other day of the week
(8) Violators of Rule (1) shall be subject to fish throwing.

And as a grand finale, why not pledge to NEVER POAS before 14DPO?

sal very normal. Hormones are raging (whether preg or af ones) which cause us to all go a bit nuts. Plus it's all out of our control, we have done all we can, shagged or syringed for all it's worth and it's just a waiting game. And if it's af it's FFS and doom and gloom and of its a bfp it's an even bigger shiiiit and 'here we go again' with hourly knicker checks and panic stations...

So tough. Whatever the outcome on af due date it's tough for people who have had a mc, and partic those with recurrent mc. Bfps are not exciting on the same way as someone who hasn't had a mc.

Go easy on yourself, and don't bother trying to fight the mental ness!!!

And I don't think you are scared of being a mum just the bit that gets your there... It's the most stressy time and can be so crushing but you have a plan now for when you get that bfp so hopefully it will be the thing that gets you that baby

sal I could have written that, so unless all of us agreeing with you are also nut jobs (possible but unlikely!) then you're normal and I actually found what you wrote comforting as I torture myself with the same doubts every month!

I try to make myself focus on that image of me with a baby, it's hard to conjure but I think that's more out of fear of the bit in the middle, as fedup says.

Hope we're all off this thread SOON! CD28 and no AF as yet, but 1st cycle post MC was 30 and my 'usual' is 28/29. Still feel like it's going to turn up any second - got a lovely day out planned with Mr Parsley tomorrow, a London show and slap up meal, no doubt the witch will show just in time to ruin it all!

Sal you've been in my head!
Seems perfectly normal to be screwy after all we've been through.

I sometimes make myself stop and think if it's all worth it. No answers yet I'm afraid!

You lot have made me breathe!! Thank god I'm not the only scaredy cat!!

At a friends house with 2 midwives, 2 with 1 yr olds, one with a 12 weeker and one who's talking about not TTC until they get married as she doesn't want to be pg on her wedding day (cos it'll happen straight away 'knowing her luck'). They tried to get me involved in the conversation by saying "any funny fanny stories recently?" Nice .

I'm poking my head around the door. I need to be kept sane in this TTC after MC lark because it sucks!

Having read the rules I have already broken rule 1 by testing yesterday but I didn't know any better so please don't shout at me or I may have to run and hide It was a BFN and AF has finally turned up today - 6 days late based on an average 30-day cycle but really they are anywhere between 28-34.

A little bit of background - found out we were PG with no.1 last April after trying on/off for 3 years. Found out at the end of May that I'd had MMC and had ERPC. Started TTC again in August but no luck since. Getting more and more frustrated so I've a job interview on Monday for a job which will involve me being away Mon-Fri. Think I've lost the plot but life is too short!

Hi zebra and welcome. Sorry to hear about your MC and the long wait you've had. I was ttc for 18 months before I got my 1st BFP which I also lost with a MMC last Nov. Having tried for a long time is an extra layer of agony on a shitty cake isn't it? Did you ever have any investigations into why it took so long to get your BFP?
Good luck with your job interview!

sal that must have been a fun moment! Hope you survived unscathed

Hi Parsley. No we didn't have any investigations as I pretty much know the reasons. Y1 = NTNP & then CTTC. Y2 = abnormal smear, associated op and recovery period (inc 6 weeks enforced abstinence (sad) ), topped off by my Dad being very ill for around 3 months. Y3 = being away from home for 9 months Mon-Fri. We became properly serious about it when I came home and fell month 3.

I'm now on CD1 of cycle 7 since MMC and no luck. Have an apt to see the consultant next month (for counselling) so I'm going to mention my abnormal cycles then and see if there's anything that can be done.

Yet another of my friends announced her pregnancy yesterday. I literally shouted FOR FUCK SAKE!! DH thinks I'm being a mean bitch! I now I have 5 friends pregnant. 3 due July, 2 September!
To add insult to injury not one of them had any problems getting pg... All seemed to fall on first attempt! Except one who fell cycle 3! 2 are constantly moaning about m/s. I'd happily puke every hour of every day if it meant I was pg! Fuckers!

On another note - I'm now out of OPKs. No 'peak' fixed smiley so it's continual DTD now til the witch shows her ugly head!

Doom and gloom done, hope you all have a lovely weekend!

english it's so frustrating and unfair isn't it?! I'm with you. Also, I've not even got high fertility yet on opks and I'm CD 10 and norm ovulate on cd 11 / 12 so feeling a bit dispondent today. Think body must still be fucked after mc in dec. :(

Crikey, we really are a bunch of miserable bastards aren't we?!!! Haha

I've had a temp drop today but it may pick up again tomorrow, just have to wait and see. If I'm not PG this month, I'm booking a smear test. How delightful.

Right, off to work. Slap on, smile bright, and talk about people's Christmases all day whilst staring down the barrel of their fanjos.

(Note to self : pick up a lotto ticket on way home)

zebra well that's it's own set of crappy circumstances, if you don't mind me saying. Glad you're out the other side and I hope ttc this time is the one for you.

english I seriously want to go on facecation for a bit but I'm struggling with how to do it. If I just disappear it's going to seem very melodramatic and people who've no business in my business will ask questions no doubt, but I seriously can't be fucked with it. Every time I log in something on there gets me.

sal I'm also booking a smear if AF shows this weekend. I miss having medical people poking around my fanjola.

Parsley - have a great day out and enjoy the show. I think it's really important to plan nice things for ourselves given that it is tough going at times.for me distraction is a great and undervalued coping strategy :-).

english It's totally reasonable to shout 'ffs' with all those pregnancies around you. And difficult to listen to a lot of complaints about ms. I find it good to let people know ive had mcs in certain circumstances - people are alot more sensitive when they know you have experienced losses and are less like to complain (which I find helpful, otherwise I get angry!). In saying that it is hard to be open with people you don't know well, and work colleagues.

zebra sorry to hear you had a bfn. It must be very frustrating when you are trying for so long. It must also be difficult to make practical decisions about getting a new job that will take you away for 5 days.. I guess life needs to move on as you say, and hopefully you will still get your bfp soon. Hope the consultant is helpful.

sal good luck getting back to work. I find that once you get to lunchtime it's nearly back to the usual routine. Beware - there could still be sweets everywhere ( I work in a healthcare setting so Roses and biscuits still haunt me!)

Hi to the other lovely ladies. I can only read a few posts on this page so haven't read back too far.

All well here. AF due next Saturday, but I'm feeling quiet tired and possibly symptomy. This is my 4th pregnancy so from past experience I think I might be pregnant... I have one dd (so lucky!!) but subsequently had two late miscarriages so have a good idea of my own symptoms. So I will see next week - I wonder if I should test on Friday - one day before AF due - due to rules!!! I don't think I will be able to wait for the following Friday!!

I'll throw in too, feel exactly the same!

I'd decided I would be quite happy for it to take another 5 months to get a BFP (so long as it sticks) as by then my PG friends will be done and it could be my Turn however POAS yesterday and having negative PG and ov actually made disheartened

Feeling tearful, hormones making an appearance at last?

Thanks for listening to my moaning ladies! I'm feeling a little more positive now! Must stay this way!!

Sal....what do u do for a job?! Your day sounds like mine. Fannies in my face all day! I work in a waxing salon!

MrsHobart - don't get dispondant. I know it's easier said than done though.

Do you guys now about StayFocusd? It might help with the Facebook trauma - it's a free download that blocks you from going on certain sites. I use it to concentrate when working from home (and have the Daily Fail blocked at all times!), but you can set it so it will allow you to go on a site for a certain amount of time a day, or not at all.

Sorry for bfns :-( though some likely sounding symptoms, hopefully we'll get a clutch of bfps before long.

hello ladies,

i am on a real downer today :( and I was doing so well but it has hit me again so know how you feel misshobart

i haven't been on facebook for two weeks and feel better for that but am still just down today....

sal - hope you get some good news next week, we need some more bfp's and im really not thinking i will get one, af symptoms starting :(

english glad you are more positive...i need some of what you have?!

any sign of hollyben? xx

Think hollyben got her BFP and is on sept antenatal.. Sure I saw her then when I was on there (briefly )

Chin up Chosen. It's really bloody hard sometimes but I feel that being miserable about isn't helping my progress! We will all get there!

Wishful thinking or perhaps an omen English, I am still here! CD 18 in the hollyben house. After thinking I had got as close of positive as I ever have had on an pok on Thursday I PIAC just to check yesterday and it was a definite positive so the daily DTD continues. DH is loving it but we are both so tired.

English you were asking about cycle post MC. I had my first MC in 2010 at about 11 week, AF appeared roughly 4 weeks later. Next cycle was around 28 days with lots of spotting throughout then BFP cycle 2 resulted in my DD. This time started bleeding at 5+4. 5 scans (including 2 internal ones) and 4 agonising weeks later MC confirmed and ERPC. It took 3 weeks to get a bfn and 79 days until AF showed up. So I guess the moral is there is no rhyme nor reason for MC to MC never mind person to person.

Just dropped dd off at granny's for a sleepover and sent DH out for a run so I can slob in front of the tv and catch up on here. Walked into room with a cuppa to a sperm fertility test kit ad on the tv [shocked] Didn't see the ad just the product at the end. I hate ads so generally avoid. Has anyone seen it? Intrigued by how they would be selling that?!?

Off out for a posh meal for dh birthday later followed by more DTD. When did it become a chore rather than fun? Sigh.... Hope you are all feeling better and having lovely weekends

Oh fuck... As soon as typed that if realised I meant someone else! Sorry!!

My DH... Has done said sperm check! Hahaha!! Gave us a sigh of relief but not sure how accurate they are! Quite funny though!!

Englishgirl yep, I rent a room in a salon and specialise in intimate hot waxing. What's the £££ like doing it in Amsterdam and is it popular? We have thought about looking for work out there actually...

Hollyben that's a good sign I reckon...a sign of things to come!

Healthy eating and exercise is going well here....just ordered a curry for later and have stashed 3 creme eggs in the egg box (as DH will never find them there - that'll teach him for not cooking)!!

Sal, Well where I work they charge less than where i was in the uk and the product costs more. They charge €34 for hollywood/brazillian. In the Uk the salon I worked at charge £45/35!! My wages aren't brilliant here though, but i'm doing it more for the social aspect than the money. Its really popular here... no hairy fannies in Amsterdam! And there's a fair few waxing salons.

Bloody hell! I'm in the wrong part of the country (could've spelled that VERY differently but refrained). I only charge £15/20 and do 2-3 an hour!! FFS I could be loaded!! Where did you work in the UK?