The Elderberry Pavlovas head into 2014 which will be full of ivf, berry babies and BFPs!!! (thread 17)

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Berries have a strict entrance criteria (TTC #1, over 30, TTC for 6+months (preferably 12+) NO instadiffers, must have a special pot and def no mention of baby dust or baby dancing UGH !!! Ooooh aren’t we strict!

The 17th thread, wow! This had better be it ladies, time to get off the Sofa of Pity onto the Pouffe of Positivity and beyond!

Afternoon Berries. Sorry to those of you suffering because of the weather and AF. AF is due here tomorrow, cramps have started so know she's on her way.

Aquarius I'm nowhere near the IVF bus. Had letter this morning that basically said 'Congratulations both tubes are open' (umm yeah I know, I was told that over 2 weeks ago when I had the HSG!). Also waiting for follow up appointment. Even if I get put on the IVF list then there's an 18 month wait

Told my mum today about the TTC/FC and promptly burst in to tears! Her first reaction was 'aw yey I'm going to be a granny'. Thanks for the positivity mum but did you actually hear what I said?! At least she didn't recommended an enormous helping of sprouts and some après sex pelvis tilting like interfering MIL!

Happy how old are you? Also remember IUI - is that possible?

I looked at my local FC recently and private IUI is remarkably cheap. Have you looked at that?

Thanks Bunny! Spent the afternoon tidying and now have so feeling happier in a neat house. How are you feeling? When is your 6w scan again?

Also someone needs to make plans to host the next thread!! Sid, barking??

RP I'm 35 for 6 more days. Going to wait and see what the consultant says at our next appointment before we make any decisions. We are allowed 1 private round of IVF whilst on the NHS waiting list so that is a possibility. NHS IUI has been mentioned but I don't know if that would be whilst we're on the IVF waiting list or before, and if it is before I'm not sure how long we'd have to wait for that. Not sure I'd want to delay getting on the list to try the IUI. Lots of questions I need answering!

Hi all!

Feel so out of the loop in just a few days - so much happening in Berry HQ!

rp sorry to hear pesky af got you. And your house issue. And the flat tire. This weather is nuts and life can be annoying sometimes. Have everything crossed for you next month. Gp visit sounds like a sound idea!

barking you too re af. And that dream is one I know well. It's so horrible when you wake up and reality hits . I dreamt the other day that I kept poas-ing on lots (I mean LOTS!) of tests and all of them were coming up as bfps and then fading. Doesn't take Freud to work out what's in my head. re having af due on your wedding, could you take provera to stop it arriving? You know it works the other way too, right? When I had a 3week af early last year, the fc prescribed it to me and it stopped.

kuma such great new re natural IVF cycle - so thrilled for you! I read somewhere recently, probably on MN, that they're just about to raise the nhs IVF age to 42. I seem to remember it saying that the changes come into effect in April/May and that it's pretty much a do e deal. Might be worth looking in to?

gill I'm sending you all the positive vibes I have for this round working for you.

sid where are you at? Just about to start jabbing?

hampshire how are you feeling today? RL pregnancy announcements suck. It's particularly hard to take when it feels like we're being left behind and we all want it so much. As blue said: you're allowed to feel sad

funky how are you doing? You asked the other day if I was back in clomid after EP, and the answer is no, not yet. FC said I have to have two af's and then call them for a hsg before we go forward with any other treatment.

tiger 2ww! Sending you positive vibes too!

happy he sounds like an absolute donkey. Always surprises me how insensitive people can be. I suppose unless you have been through what we all are going through, you just take it for granted that no one has fertility issues. He still needs a good slap though.

lady how are you?

Aquarius and happy I'm about as far away from the IVF bus as a person can be right now. Feeling left behind! At this rate, I'm going to be the last berry standing on this thread, (t)wanging myself and dancing around wearing only a bit of last Christmas' tinsel.

As for me, I'm cd (circa) 52. Still not bloody sign of af. Had a really intense acupuncture session, and some serious ovarian pains yesterday, but still no sign of it. I'm getting frustrated and avoiding calling the fc as they'll just put me on provera when I feel like I need to let it come naturally this month. I'm just in limbo right now and it's a little exasperating, but there's nothing I can do. Do any of you who know lots about exercise know if it's maybe all the spinning causing the delay? I eased up in the last week, more because I was busy at work and the tube strike, but went today.

Sorry for the mega-post and sorry if I missed anyone out!

Aww thanks bunny for your wisdom - I need to remember 'one step at a time'. It's easy to get a bit overwhelmed with it all.

Happy that's so sweet of your mum - I love the optimism. Good news about your tubes. I've no idea about waiting lists round where I live- how do you find out?

Feather - impressive post!! You definitely wont be last berry standing dont you worry. Sorry to hear about your cycle... I was told by FC not to over do it with exercise to encourage regular cycles (also told me to 'eat more pies' ...) I don't do enough exercise in my view (once or twice a week max). I would think it could be worth you speaking to GP if you're concerned & don't want to bother the FC.

Aquarius the consultant told us it was 18 months but I'm in Wales and its only that long here due to a huge cock up last year by WAG on the IVF clinic provision front. I believe in England its a maximum of 18 weeks wait? I think Bunny waited hardly any time at all if I'm not mistaken?

That's interesting aquarius. I did wonder whether it's the exercise. I really, really need to lose weight as my bmi is two pints higher than in the 'healthy' weight range and I don't want the fc saying that I'm too fat to go on the ivf waiting list (if it comes to that) so I'm kinda stuck between a rock and a hard place. Plus, I never thought I'd say this, but it's the only thing keeping me sane at the moment. Pedalling like a mad woman to very loud music turns out to be therapeutic. Who knew!

Points not pints!!!

Feather you definitely won't be the last berry standing!
Bloody difficult to day and wallowing in self pity! Met upwith my best friend today to take her out for afternoon tea for her birthday. Lovely apart from the 19 weeks pregnant bit. Oh and found out that another 4 people that I know are about 20 weeks pregnant. And they are all younger than me. Can't help the feeling that I am getting left behind. Got upset and now feeling really awful that my friend saw that - been putting on a brave face. She was lovely and supportive but.....

Aquarius it's very difficult to not get overwhelmed by it all.

Hope those of you with AF are feeling ok - enjoy the . Hopefully wind and rain will naff off soon and let us all get on with fixing things!

hampshire very sorry you're going through it at the moment. Can totally empathise as I can't move for pregnant friends/colleagues/ family at the moment. I know it's difficult in times like these but you just have to trust that it's going to happen for you one day. Odds are they will.

Hey RP thanks for asking, I'm feeling rough but can't complain really, I know how you all want to be in my position. Scan Monday, very scared that they won't find anything in there

aquarius I don't feel very wise lol

happy yes we were very lucky, the ivf list here seems to be short. I would have had to wait 4/5 months though for my op if we hadn't paid for it.

HB sorry you are feeling blue

Oh Bunny, yes they will. Of course they will. 48 hours and that fear will be over.

Happy yeah, sounds like you need some answers. But I guess I was sating if private IUI is cheap, could you do a cheeky round or do of that Hilda on NHS waiting list? I me am, would they know?

bunny the fear is natural but it's going to be absolutely fine. Please try not to worry as it's important you stay as unstressed as possible right now. to you.

feather on the exercise - I think you'd have to be training for an ironman and pushing yourself to your limits on a daily basis for it to affect your cycles. As I understand it it's also related to your bmi being too low due to the amount of exercise. If you think you're pushing too hard maybe skip a spinning session once a week and swim instead? Cross training is good anyway. Jessica Ennis got pg and she won't have been taking it easy (I know it's different for everyone...) Due to my knee injury I haven't run for a month but my cycles are still kucfed up (and yes I realise I may need to stop for longer if that really is a factor for me).

I'm on spotting day 3. Don't want to take the last lot of clomid until I've seen proper blood flow.

I need locking up. More spotting this morning but pimped again anyway. BFN. So I pimped again with a double dye . Wtf is wrong with me? I really wish I hadn't had lots of spotting before my bfp as it means I remain in denial right up to the temp crash . Still not going to take the clomid until I actually bleed.
feather on the provera - it's not AF I care about in terms of the wedding (as that's pretty non existent anyway) it's the spots that build up at that point in the cycle. I'm not sure provera would prevent that, and probably not worth the risk of doing anything else that might screw up any natural cycle I might ever manage. The holy grail has become a 'normal' cycle, I can't believe I'll get pg again until my cycle is sorted not that pimping three times in one morning shows that.

Hello Berries,

I will be the last one standing, if only because it took months of stubbornness to make me go to the doctor! I'm seeing an endocrinologist I early March since it seems my thyroid is a bit off. According to my GP, easy to fix.

But of course, being on honeymoon right now I kind of hope it will happen because "it will happen when you relax" and all that

Morning all!

Because Happy Honeymoon! So hopefully only a month away and your thyroid problem should be fixed - that's good to hear!

Barking sorry to here about the spotting and the still kucfed cycle - good plan to wait for temp crash though. Also hoping your cycle is still on it's way to being fixed.

Kuma Hooray for the go-ahead!! Had a look at the dirty rainbow episode!! OMG it's hilarious! It just gets worse and worse!

Aqua if anything when we found out that we needed help it was a relief - but then that was because we actually had an explanation as to why it hadn't happened naturally, and now we are due some help and it's taken the pressure of in the mean time. Hope you get your head around it all and feel more positive about it soon.

RP good work getting all that lot sorted! And good for you for getting to the Drs sooner rather than later! Good luck for your appt!

Happy aw bless your poor mum! Better that your MILs response!

Bunny all the best for tomorrow - will be thinking of you!!

Last night I had a dream where I was breast feeding my baby!! I had bought some nice bras yesterday so spent some of last night trying them on and lookining down at my boobs, so think that must have been partly to blame for triggering my dream. It was such a lovely dream and luckily didn't feel too down about it when I woke up.

Have a good Sunday everyone!

Thank you RP feather and birdy too, I can't wait for tomorrow to be over so I know what happening. I had some spotting last night so the stress never ends believe me!

barking grrrrrrrr to your cycles still messing with your head have some

Because Happy Honeymoon!!! Enjoy all that relaxing!

Sunday hugs to all x

I need wanging. Decided to do an ovulation test and pregnancy test last night and got a positive ovulation line and a very, very, very faint second line on the preg test. Obviously, an evap. Had a restless night's sleep, woke up and did a first response and another IC with fmu and both bfn, naturally. What the hell is wrong with me? Feel like I am losing touch with reality with this whole business. I'm cd 50-something - there is no way I could be ovulating now or pregnant, so why am I messing with my own head and doing these tests! Please, someone, give me a reality check here! Wang away!

Happy honeymoon because! And great news re seeing the doc.

barking do you think you'll take the clomid this month or wait till your next cycle? Do you think it's worth asking for a dildocam to check out what your lining is like? Have you always had such light af? Good point re provera not helping symptoms.

Feathers I don't know much about very long cycles but could it be the case that you are ovulating now after having dormant ovaries and that you should be getting jiggy?

Good luck with the scan tomorrow Bunny. Will be keeping everything crossed for you.

Hope you're having a fab honeymoon Because and making the most of your free time .

I had my scan this morning and more blood tests. The good news is that I have an excellent follicle count - 10 on each side. They also want me to reduce my Menopur further which is good. The bad news is that there looks to be another polyp there in my uterus. I have to have another scan on Tuesday but it looks like they would have to freeze all the embies (assuming they fertilise) from this cycle, I then have an op to remove the polyp and then the stick them back in in a couple of cycles time (assuming they defrost and then divide OK). I had hoped that everything had been tidied up in December when I had my fibroid removed although it is possible that this has formed as a result of the increased oestrogen from the drugs.

Grrr to your wonky cycles Barking, must be so frustrating for you.

gill major Grrr to the polyp but excellent news re follicles! When will you know if you have to have surgery?

And I can't get jiggy as oh is away in the US till Thursday. Annoying!

I think I'm just going to give in and contact the FC this week.

Gill, that polyp news must be so frustrating. Well done on the follicles though.

We're getting close to the end of this thread; I nominate Happy to start the next one as she's one of the originals!

We haven't had an agreed thread theme of late. I was just mulling over some of the possibilities from our recent conversations.

Maybe some kind of reference to Ace of Base?!