If TTC # 2 has turned you into a nut job this thread is for you! (Part 4)

[sebsmummy1]

Hey!! We have had lots of graduates from Part 3, so let's get on the TTC bus part 4 and make this place a ghost town.

Destination Pregnancy, choooo choooooo

Hopefully you will get a positive tomorrow fedup? There is still a chance yet. Will you keep testing until you do get a positive? I hope your cycles sort themselves out soon. Normally I would be due AF in a week but I am scared to even think too much about it, my last 3 cycles have been all over the place so now I just have no idea where I'm up to or when to expect AF.
I think the january blues are getting to us all, we need some sunshine...and some babies.

Ugh. Why did I do opks?! There's a reasons I stopped with them. Yesterday morning I had am empty circle with 5 am wee then I did another with 8 am wee that was fixed smiley. Took out the stick and screen was all blurry again so I think a false positive. However these stupid sticks keep the fixed smiley for two days after you have a peak so I can't retest today!
Sod it. I'm keeping going with our every other day method. No ewcm so I'm pretty sure no ovulation yet.

I'm ok thank you. Nothing to report so we will assume all is ticking along.

Fed up this was the month that I 'apparently' didn't ovulate according to clearblue and I also had hardly any EWCM at all. Particularly by comparison to months where I had loads and thought this was a good sign. So don't let those two things make you feel crap first off.

Secondly I think it is entirely plausible for you to ovulate later this month whilst your cycles regulate.

Xxxxxx

Oh Lucy I was exactly the same except I also told random strangers about my fertility issues. I am an absolute over-sharer . I really do believe in a problem shared is a problem halved. I also kind of believe in the need to tell the universe what you want, but possibly I could do that in my head and not out loud lol

Keep remembering what my doctor told me. You have already conceived before, I believe all of us with the same partner, so there is absolutely no reason why you shouldn't conceive again. It will happen.

Fed up I used to get those blurry screens and it didn't make them false positives. You are ovulating chick! Xxxxxx

And you can retest. Those sticks give a reading like any other ov stick. Just dip the stick in the wee and forget the holder. I think the line nearest the wee end is your LH and the other line is oestrogen.

No, the last cycle i used opks I had false positives for days! And actually got a real positive about a week later. I've thrown my wee away now! Or would have dunked just the stick but to be honest I just don't believe them any more. I really don't think I am yet either...
Opks put me in a bad mood. Just wish had still left them alone and wouldn't have to deal with this shit!

Well you did absolutely great without them so l think leave them alone for now as we know it just ends up with us assuming no ovulation which is total bullshit.

Yeah I know. Just wish I hadn't spent 25 quid on them! Idiot. My logic was a friend gave me some spare sticks so I kind of needed to buy some more to have the holder!

Who knows really as think cycles are a bit weird at mo. I could have ovulated already - about 3 days ago. Bit not sure so will keep shagging jic.

I agree, Fedup leave them alone! They just cause undue added stress and worry and fretting. At the end of the day all we can do is have sex as often as possible. Don't take up skydiving or glue sniffing and hope for the best. Wish I was feeling as sensible and rational as I sound!!!!
Glad everything seems to be ok Sebs.

Doc said don't drink don't smoke and shag a lot. Luckily I don't drink or smoke anyway, but that was the best thing you could do to optimise fertility apparently. He said vitamins and supplements were anecdotal.

I am sure most people would say that opks do not actually help you conceive as by the time they give a positive it's too late. I think they can be a useful tool but I do think they can also cause undue worry and anxiety.

You know I'm still getting this light brown mucous discharge. I've had it for four days now. It's enough to mark a pad but not absorb into it IYSWIM. I don't feel as hysterical but I know it's not right.

Fed up it reminds me of when you were coming back and talking about there being 'gunk' everyday and we were trying to reassure you. I just don't feel confident that this is going to end well at all.

I drink but don't smoke. But don't drink much. And there is a trade off between giving up something that you really like and then getting more worked up and miserable each month. And stress is even worse for ttc! . Plus I don't know anyone that conceived after giving up booze! I also got pregnant with DS around the time I was on a diet of coffee and wine as was working ridiculous hours at the time and needed coffee to stay awake but booze to send me to sleep (have left that job now thank god!) He was actually conceived whilst on the booziest ski holiday I've ever been on!
But i have decided I'm going to not drink in the week and have a couple at weekends / and a blow out on af arrival - ha ha!
Booze apparently affects the man more than the woman too. I have a friend who's husband has low motility and the medical direction is for him to give up booze and not her. (But she's cuts down to support him).

Right - am putting the opks away and I'm getting on with my homework, I've got more exams in 3 weeks and tonnes to do beforehand!

Yeah it was like that for me sebs. And worse after I did a poo. I never bled though properly - and wasn't bright red until I passed it. Have you done another test?

My advise would be to wait til you are over five weeks and if still bleeding trot down to EPU for scan to at least locate the pregnancy. 6 weeks if you can wait that long / to be sure of dates etc.

It can be normal sebs but obviously my experience it wasn't. But that's not to say yours is the same chick xxx

Actually sebs mine was watery brown / more dark and wasn't mucousy. Dark watery brown is what they worry about with ectopic. Sit tight chick but I know it's hideous xxxxxx

Ps. We just booked flights to Canada for friends wedding on September so being pregnant this month or next would not be ideal.

Oooooh something to look forward to!! I would love to visit Canada, nearly booked it once then ended up allocating the money elsewhere. Exciting!!

Well I ended up doing a very dilute POAS just now and the line is still darker than yesterdays. I was contemplating self referring to my local Early Scan Unit but it is just too early and I know I will end up just getting myself worked up and I'd probably cry.

I will just wait for Wednesday and see what the doctor says. As you rightly say I can then self refer later on if I'm still spotting and see if they will scan me.

Re drinking,I agree, no point giving up something you enjoy and that relaxes you. I guess it's the everything in moderation rule and I'm sure he was probably referring to both partners and just trying to encourage a healthy lifestyle.

I've not drunk for ages due to pregnancy and feeding for a further 21 months, but have decided to enjoy a few now while I can. Not many, and I only drink maybe 2 or 3 times a month, but while I can (before pregnancy number 2!) I'm going to enjoy a couple.

My blood test results of day 3 came back and I managed to get to speak to a GP on the phone. She said they are loads better than in October when I was still bfing which is good, and she said the FSH is in the ideal zone and I'm lucky it is so low because usually it is higher by 35 and gets higher towards menopause so it looks, she said, as though I am many years away from menopause from the test and have very good egg reserves.

Hardly a guarantee but I cling on to any good news obviously..

Take care sebs. We are all rooting for you. xx
fedup, sound like a surefire way of succeeding this month booking a trip like that! Something to look forward to either way x

Zippy that is an EXCELLENT result from the doctors, so you are pretty much working right now hormonally. We just have to get you knocked up

I hear fantastic things about the sperm meets egg plan. Have you tried that?

Just catching up on the thread ladies, January is definitely a tough month I think.

lucy I know exactly what you mean about just getting really emotional, I'm having days where I just can't seem to hold it together and I'm getting really pissed off with myself as I'm just not normally so wimpy! I'm also due in about a week's time but same as you with cycles all over the place so it's really hard to tell. I had EWCM yesterday which was cd22 so what is that all about?! Madness.

sebs it's great that the line is darker and I know it is easy to say it but try not to worry and talk through any worries with the doc on weds.

fedup Canada sounds fantastic, and the sort of thing that's very likely to mean you end up with a BFP just when it's not convenient, fingers crossed

zippy great news on those results from the doc, definitely something to cling to!

As for not drinking etc, I'm not this month just because of Christmas excess but I conceived dd when I was hammered and was drinking pretty regularly before finding out I was preggers so not a great advert but I think it has very little to do with things. Obviously not advocating drinking once you do know, but the odd tipple now and again especially when things are stressful wont hurt IMHO.

Hang in there everyone, I'm convinced we'll be hearing another BFP on this thread sometime soon! X

zippy that's fab with results! Does is take the pressure off in anyway knowing that all is ok, good egg reserve etc?

Yeah, we have lots goings on now which most mean a pregnancy would be inconvenient. I have just been trying to get on with life rather than devote it to ttc another baby!

Spent last night surrounded by babies and my son was so cute with them. Playing, tickling then and giving cuddles. It was so sweet and I just want him to have his own brother or sister soon.

I'm dreading DD getting older and starting to ask questions about a brother or sister or baby, she absolutely loves babies
Great news with your results Zippy, that is awesome, hopefully it will help you relax a bit more about it?
Fedup you are doing the right thing just getting on with your life. It is so hard though isn't it as it's always going to be in the back of your mind. Sometimes I have an hour or two where I have been concentrating on a book or conversation or something and I realise I haven't thought about babies or ttc for at least an hour! It's great! Now I just need to extend that to a few days....after my emotional breakdown yesterday I have decided to sod the lot of it and get on with the rest of my life too if I don't have any success soon. Which may involve quitting my job and going back to college, which isn't ideal financially but I need something else to focus on this year!
I'm not confident for this cycle, next month I am going to really throw my all at it for a final blow out, no booze, cut down on caffeine, no takeaways, no processed foods, start doing some exercise, have sex allll the time..it will be exhausting but at least I will know I have done EVERYTHING I possibly could have to make it happen. Also I think I will book a Dr appointment. Anyone want to join me??
I think it is ok to drink in moderation whilst ttc, you do need something to keep you sane.
Sebs glad you got a darker line, I'm sorry you're still having to go through the what ifs though. I so hope it all works out ok for you, you deserve it after all this time. It doesn't seem fair after all this time waiting to get those two special lines once you do you still can't relax and enjoy it. It's all just such a cruel waiting game

That made me laugh lucy is I'm the same... 'Oh, I haven't thought about being pregnant or babies for two hours today'. I must admit I am very very far off being able to say 'days' hours is hard enough

I'm supposed to have given up coffee at the moment as am having my teeth whitened (got some groupon deal and it's something you can't do if pregnant so went for it!) but I cannot live without coffee at the mo as just too tired. I've been having milky coffees (they said this was ok) but my teeth aren't much whiter yet so may have to man up and go cold turkey with the old caffeine! Eeeek.

I love coffee too! I have managed to cut down to two cups a day, with a few teas thrown in there too. I literally cannot function without coffee. It was such a struggle when I found out I was pg with DD, but next month I will try my hardest to keep it to one cup a day, or just even stick with tea! Ah the sacrifices we have to make....