Eggcellent Egg Buddies - a thread for those IVFing in November, December and January

[eurochick]

New thread. Welcome back to all the regulars. Welcome to all the newbies - please come and join us if you are IVFing or thinking about. The regulars are a mine of information at this point!

Do you realise that this will take us through a year of egg buddy threads? I believe Karbea started the last one around Xmas time last year for those cycling in 2013 and I immediately jumped on it as I was about to start my first cycle in January. Blimey.

cups I've been told that absorbtion is better from the front, but some clinics recommend the back. I'm on a thread with someone doing an ARGC round at the moment and she has been told back door only. The box says you can use either.

thoughtful it doesn't sound like she was listening! I'm hoping the HCG levels will show it is just too early to see anything in the womb.

stars the poo thing is grim isn't it? But so is the leakage from the front. Basically I just hate cyclogest. I worked out I was on the for 13 weeks out of 52 in 2013. Eugh.

bugs sorry you are suffering. Nothing about this journey is easy. But you will be stimming soon.

I used to hate cyclogest...all the oozing, gas and costipation....then I get put on Gestone.....The first few injections are fine, then you run out of space and are injecting hard brusied bits. You then knock out a few nerve ends, which sounds like it should be awesome but no, you have random patches of superficial numbness that still hurt like a bitch when injected. Then, if you do anything to make your arse jiggle...and I am talking walking up or down stairs jiggle, it makes your backside feel like it wwll explode.

And to think I was only on them for 4.5 weeks last time....

...oh and when I stopped after the MC it took a couple of MONTHS for my arse to feel normal.

OK rant over

They sound evil val!

You are making me clench my bum cheeks together just reading this Val!

First Menopur injection done. It's a lot more complicated mixing it all together, isn't it? But no nasty stingy rash after it, unlike the Devil's Juice Buserelin. Oh how I hate that drug! When do I have to start with the bum/fanjo bullets? You have made me look forward to taking them... not!! Am so pleased I have got to the stimming stage.

My clinic has me starting them the evening of collection and then it's 2 a day from then on. Bleugh.

LOL - just making the bum bullets seem a bit better

Bad - normally from the day of EC

Bug I stare adoringly at my concrete jungle willing my fingers to turn green if that is what you mean?!

Bugs that's hilarious. 'Up bum, yes baby' for all if us please!

Hi all, sorry not to name check, just logging on at travel lodge near FC.

Thank you for the advice and support, in a weird way I am excited about tomorrow.

Ref the bum bullets, does everybody have to have them?

Good luck for tomorrow Bunny. Hope you get some lovely eggies

And yep everyone has the old up the bum/franjo bullets I'm afraid. They're ok tho, certainly better than is imagined them to be. Yes I'd rather not, but they're alright if I have to!

Look fwd to hearing how it went, tomorrow. X

Evening all!

Sorry for disappearing lately. Had a tough few days which has hit me hard. Not sure why I feel so down but it may be due to AF being on its way

Will catch up properly tomorrow but wanted to say euro so sorry to hear about the bleeding. You are so strong with how you're coping with it. Really hoping the days fly by until your scan on Tuesday. Hugs

bunny good luck for tomorrow! I have been fine after all 3 EC's & went back to work the day after 2 of them (the third was on a Friday so I had the weekend to recover - which I did need due to excess bloating). My 1st 2 EC's were on SP and the 3rd on LP. The SP cycles were SO much easier to recover from. Not sure why but I think I was close to over stimming on the 3rd cycle.

Cyclogest is rank btw. But let's face it - what isn't through this process? I used them up the rear I must get some gloves euro and from EC to OTD (think it should be until about 6 weeks' after ET with my clinic)

On the subject of 1 or 2 replaced, I was in the 2 camp but the further I go through this process the more I think 1 is the better option. If I could get a few frosties I would have 1 put back a month on a natural cycle. The benefit being no drugs = have another transfer straight away. Having said that, I've had 2 put back as the 2nd embie in each case was not good enough to freeze apparently so we decided we might as well stick it back up.

Hi to all you lovely egg buddies

cups thank goodness your dog is ok. Are you insured? A couple of nights is a hefty bill! I have taken ours a few times to the emergency vets & it's fecking scary. Our old dog used to make massive fools of us by making a miraculous recovery when we got there - no matter what the illness! So pleased to hear she has fully recovered now do her a favour & eat all the choccie in the house

bunny good luck for the EC!

Afm, taking the stim drugs, scanned today and going back tomorrow for another. Think I will be going for EC early next week. All seems ok, but winding myself up a bit because I seem to have fewer follicles this cycle...repeat 'quality not quantity' to self and remember that the loads of follicles I had last time didn't get me pregnant.

Have felt pretty calm this cycle but starting to get angsty about it, need to snap out of it!

Bunny good luck today.

I hate to rain on the Cyclogest parade that Brooker mentioned but at my clinic progesterone support (cyclogest or gestone) is until the 12 week scan.

Hat don't beat yourself up over follicles. My first cycle I got 16 eggs but it only ever seemed like the sonographer registered 6 or 7 numbers. The second cycle I got 8 and again she only seemed to register a couple of big numbers on each ovary.

I am hugely bloated on only day 3 of stims....does not bode well. On the plus side my clexane jab didn't bleed last night so I can only hope it means no bruising!

Bunny good luck for today, can't wait to hear how you get on.

Thoughtful any news? I got asked if my pregnancy was planned by the EPU when I miscarried. The question before that had been when did you have egg collection!! How dense can they be?! Hope you are ok x

Brooker yep she is insured thank god. She is back to being her usual annoying self, she's just been barking at the sofa for ages as one of her toys got stuck under there

Val I'm never going to complain about the evil bum bullets again. That gestone sounds evil. It's twice a day for 12 weeks at my clinic too.

Hats try not to worry, it's definitely quality not quantity.

Bugs and Stars maybe our new motto should be up bum, yes baby?!

I live in a terrace in Manchester (think coronation street) so no garden for me. It's probably just as well as I seem to kill any plant in my care within a matter of days....

I've only got 2 more days left at my job, am getting excited now. I was up till late last night making cupcakes for my last day

Hey Cups - am just skimming but I live in Bramhall so we're sort-of neighbours! Where's your clinic? St Mary's ? Care?

I'm very glad I clicked on thsi thread now. All the bum bullet chat reminded me that I had forgotten to take mine this morning!

bugs I have a postage stamp-sized London garden. Mostly paved, with some small raised beds around the edge. The developers didn't put proper top soil in the beds, so it took us a few years to find anything at all that would grow there. We are not good gardeners. My mum is wonderful, and I expect she shudders when she sees our place!

cups that is ridiculous. How could an IVF pregnancy be anything other than planned!

hat my first cycle was natural (so only one mature egg) and that got me a BFP (although I sadly miscarried). IOTO!

My bleeding has largely stopped this morning, but Mr euro has caved and is calling the clinic to see if he can bring the scan forward so we don't have to wait until Tuesday.

Euro - I am london too. Which Clinic are you at? I am at The Bridge Centre

Euro - I think that is probably for the best. I adopted your view - it will be what it will be so might as well wait - but wish in hindsight that I had gone for the reassurance or otherwise earlier because it really is emotionally exhausing to be in a permanent state of anxiety. I feel so drained at the moment and think the wait (as well as the outcome, of course) is to blame.

I'm no gardener, sorry. We have a gardener who despairs of us, along with my mother.

I'm having a really bad day today. It seems every pregnant woman in Manchester is on the streets today (and every newborn). Everyone who isn't preganant seems so bloody happy and I'm as miserable as sin. Can't face the acting required in response to the "Good Christmas?" question.

Cups, so pleased your pooch is OK. We've had to indoctrinate our 2 yr old DD about no-chocolate-or-grapes. We know that we'll lose ours this year as he was diagnosed with cancer last year (but still thinks he's a pup despite his 12 years!). They are such a simple pleasure and great listeners!

Bunny, how did EC go?

Hi to everyone else.

val I'm at Create.

res what's the problem with grapes?

The clinic has no earlier scan appointments so back to waiting for Tuesday it is.

In that case, Euro - ignore my last - much more sensible to wait (note pragmatic lawyer change of position in light of new information).

Grapes are a big no-no for dogs - something to do with the kidney, I think. Ingestion can be fatal. We started to feed ours some grapes one day a couple of years ago and he LOVED them. By chance, we got a letter from the pet insurer the same week with a warning about the danger so felt like real meanies just cutting off the supply.

Res - sorry you are feeling so crap. In my experience there is not really anything anyone can do or say to make the pain go away. I hope you start to feel better with time and in the mean time let everyone else deal with their emotions and you focus on you. I used to think if I scowled at some happy pregnant person or didn't see someone who had just had a baby that was really bad but really why should they care?

Euro - sorry you have to wait. It is so frustrating

AFM - I got results of hcg 198 and progesterone 23 yesterday. Getting retested tomorrow. On its own the numbers look fine but three weeks ago I had a period and I've been bleeding for about the last 10 days. I've been here before.

Hello! Home and just scoffed a MaccyDs nom nom nom, a restful afternoon awaits me

Thanks everyone again, your advice is great fully received.

They took out 5 eggs, it seems like such a small amount, is that average?

Can't wait to shove the old bullets where the sun doesn't shine lol, twice a day till ET and then it's up the front instead!

Cups - glad your pooch is ok, I hate it when our furry babies are poorly

Hope everyone is ok, those with worries or feeling blue sending you

Res I sympathise. I am feeling it a bit too at the moment. A bit of advise which strangely works for me is to remember it is not their baby you want but your baby. I don't know if it helps....

Thoughtful tentitvely looks good, but I am speaking from no experience of PUL.

Euro if you are in London and want a scan the FMC (Fetal Medicine Centre) in Harley Street is great and has always had appointments when I have wanted them. It is also way cheaper than my clinic (£100 as opposed to £150 and all their profits go into fetal medicine research). If all is fine then they will give you that reassurance and if it isn't they just tell you to go to your EPU - which is what my clinic would do. Not sure if your clinic would have a different protocol?