The Elderberry Pavlovas: still chasing that 'copter in the hope of a festive BFP. Thread 16 (the one where Happy was left in charge!!)

[happylass]

Here we go again.....

The smallprint –
Berries have a strict entrance criteria (TTC #1, over 30, TTC for 6+months, NO instadiffers, must have a special pot) and def no mention of baby dust or baby dancing UGH !!! Ooooh aren’t we strict!

Everything crossed for the magical clomid to do its job again.
Yours is the kind of instadiffing that is ALWAYS welcome

barking if in doubt about af you could always don the white shorts! That'll always work!

Evening. Weekend berry here.
So very sorry to read about feather and lady . Be kind to yourselves.
tally very pleased that you're feeling good and are getting good care.

Am on first cycle of clomid. Having second scan on Monday night as no dominant folly last week, despite it being cd15. Supposed to dtd today and/or tomorrow, just in case. Tried this morning, but no squirt. Getting concerned about the likelihood of successful dtd on demand. Now I'm on the clomid path (and whatever else may follow), we'll have to dtd when told. Any advice on this?

to all. Think there should be a poppy emoticon.

It must be very hard for chaps. We can lie back and think of babies but men have to achieve.
Is it worth talking to him and saying that he just needs to get the job done, you don't need to enjoy it.
I think if you try and make it all sexy then it will just seem false. Let he watch a bit of gentleman's television if he wants.

I did feel for my DH when we had the last round of IVF. I get wheeled off to have an operation and he has to go into a room with some magazines and has to produce a sample. How can anyone perform under that pressure?

From what I understand is that achieving orgasm for a man is a purely mechanical operation, unlike women where it's very cerebral.

Gutting news Lady and Feathers. TTC can be so cruel. Hope you're being looked after well. Thinking of you both.

barking yay to maybe AF!

In bunny news, things seem to be happening, DH has sperm freeze tues, we have appt with FC doctor on weds and then nurse planning appt on thurs. not sure what this all means but assume it is the start ?!?

Look at bunny go !!!!!!

oh that all sounds good bunny will you fit a cycle in before xmas? that would be a good present to yourself!

Very sorry to hear your news lady. It's not exactly fun being either of us right now, is it. to you. Guess we both have to get back in the saddle (so to speak!) when we're ready.

barking great news about af at long last. Fingers crossed for you.

charming it's v difficult, the only method that's worked for OH and I is to not take it too seriously - to laugh at the ridiculousness of it all. I think when the pressure is on, you have to be able to laugh it off.

I'm posting the following on both threads.

Just wanted to give you all an update and say thank you to you all for your support over the last couple of days. RL friends and family have been amazing, and OH has been a rock, but knowing I had extra back up from women that have been through their own fertility issues was and is both strengthening and humbling. Still can't get over the fact that strangers online can connect in this way. So thank you.

I got home from the hospital yesterday and the decision has been taken to go down the 'expectant management' route - meaning that they're waiting to see if my hcg and progesterone levels go down every day, and scanning for any signs of rupture or internal bleeding. This can take up to six weeks, but judging from my levels so far, the consultant seems to think that if things go as they have been, this should be over in a week or so. My hcg levels on Friday were only 607, meaning the embryo had probably stopped developing early on, and this was proved by yesterday's hcg result of 300ish. I'm going back in today for more tests.

I don't know what I'm feeling, but there is a definite element of relief for now that if things go as they have been for the last 48 hours, I may have a tubal miscarriage. I never thought I'd find myself wishing for that.

What I do know is this: whichever way it goes, this experience - a week of joy followed by devastation - has made me more determined to get pregnant again. I know know that I'm ready to be a parent now in a way I didn't before.

ANYWAY, I hope that everyone resumes their lovely chatter soon. Looking at the threads just now, it seems everyone has gone very quiet, and I hope that's not on my count. I'll be leaving the copter and heading back to Berrie Hq again, but I plan to be back at the copter with better news in the coming months.

Sorry about the long post, just thought you all deserved some proper details. You're all so great. xxx

Fingers crossed for the best possible outcome in a horrible situation feather. I know what you mean about that brief experience of being pg making you even more determined to get there again not that I would have believed beforehand it was possible to feel even more desperate than I was already. I'm sure we both will have our successful pgs.

I am berating myself for drinking last night as I've had about 5 hours sleep and feel like . Got to get up and walk the dog now then there's a fell race I've been building up to for ages and doing it on little sleep with a hangover is not going to be pleasant! Not to mention the pile of work I've got to get through when I get back as well as fitting in another dog walk means I can't just go back to bed!!!

I'm such a lightweight. I only had 3 tiny glasses of wine - 125ml glass only half full each time - and then a taste of port. Not exactly binge drinking!! Probably more to do with AF finally arriving!!
Oh well, clomid starts today then I'm back on the ttc wagon and just the occasional drink. Probably for the best!

Morning all!

Feather, holding thumbs with FX for you - that tube needs looking after!

Good luck for your race Barking - wow, your Sunday sounds pretty hectic! I'm a lightweight too - if I have more than two crabbies I know I'll be feeling it the next morning

And good luck Bunny for your week ahead!

My AF is due tomorrow, and though I know it is highly unlikely we'd get pg without any help, I've still wasted 4 IC this cycle. Even though I get the same AF symptoms every cycle, I manage to convince myself that they are in fact pg symptoms We have our first FC appt this Friday! Feeling nervous and apprehensive. From what I've read, with DHs 1% morphology, the only thing that would work for us is ICSI and where we live we only get one cycle on NHS. Obviously we would save up to have more, but I would imagine we could afford a cycle every year or two. And looking at the success rate for our clinic (which is about average), I'm not feeling hopeful at all. All I know is that we won't stop trying. I'm just grateful the NHS help out at all.

Hope everyone has a good Sunday! and stays positive keeps going in this constant battle of TTC!

feather, good to hear from you!

I'm on CD24 and have a terrible fever and very sore boobs. Had to sleep on the sofa because my DH's snoring was annoying me!

AF expected next weekend. I just know I'm not pregnant this month

I thing to those of you saying 'I know AF is on her way'. My TA said the exact same to me about a month ago. She said she could feel that she was due on, she got a bfp.

Oh Feathers, I had a tear in my eye reading that. You seem so grounded with everything. FX you get your tubal MC and that you're able to get back in the saddle again soon when you're ready. X

Bluebirdy although you will get only one cycle on NHS, that cycle lasts as long as you have embryos to put back in. So if you were lucky enough to get more than one good quality embryo and had the rest frozen, your one cycle includes using up any frozen embryos in the future. Only found that out this week and it made me happier.

Good luck with the fell race Barking, should hopefully get any nasties out of your system. Bet you sleep well tonight!

Not long now for you Bunny!

We are almost cycle buddies because - I am CD23 and 7-9 dpo. AF due thurs ish.

Feel v fat. Really need to start doing something about my wright - been soooo lazy about exercise since the summer. We're going for a big Dartmoor walk today but my favourite lined walking trousers are a bit, ahem, tight.

And feather what a horrid situation, but it does sound like your medical team have a plan to help you. Maybe, fx, you will not be facing that absolute worst case scenario.

barking how are you feeling now AF is approaching? Are things feeling at all easier?

charming I do think wearing something sexy can help, perhaps have him see you put on sexy underwear in the morning when you get ready for work?? Can think of you all day. (you can too and might feel a bit more up for it later) Also foreplay being the main event with just enough time for him to finish in the right (ahem) place.
Don't wait till bedtime if you can help it, and maybe sometimes not in bed?

feather good to hear from you. It must be bloody awful but I can see what you mean about relief and it does sound like the best possible outcome for you and your tube in the circumstances. The thought of having the op or being in limbo for so lo g must have been terrifying. Big hugs to you x x x

feather what a lovely post, I know what you mean about the berries, they are pretty awesome! So happy you are feeling stronger and more determined! Hoping you can get back to it soon. Hugs x

puppy I don't think I'll be able to fit anything in before Christmas. I guess I'll know more after the appts this week but I expect it will be January FX!

Oh dear barking hangovers suck ass, especially if you don't feel like you deserve one. Good luck for the race.

blue and because it ain't over till the red witch sings!

GILL! I never knew that! Feel much better now
Hehe, wish there was some sort of talisman against that red witch!

I love this thread, you berries are special.

birdy morphology can always change. My dh's was 3% initially so I practically force fed him herby food and multivitamins, made him go to the gym and stopped his alcohol 2 months prior to us conceiving. Yes, with iui they do pick the best of the bunch but still think it was worth our efforts. They don't measure morphology at iui but they did say his count etc was excellent. Dread to think what it's like now he's not ttc!!!

*healthy not herby lol!

Ha ha red witch, you all make me smile. I guess I spent the first three months of TTC symptom spotting so badly that every cycle I convinced myself I was preggers, and now I've swung the other way. But this month I've been having some wine and I will be travelling for work so it would not be ideal if I was!

But herby food sounds delicious! Thanks Kitty, will start cracking the whip! Because I am the same, except now when I get my hopes up I keep telling myself that I'm being silly, just to even things out.

Because I wish I still had a link to the days before my bfp. I seriously ate my words!!!!

Ah, but I saw my wonderful acupuncturist today and she thinks my body is getting ready for AF.

I'm not very good at this (being patient and hopeful).