Posifrickentivity all round, with a good healthy dash of project desperate. New thread, new luck, new BFPs and Summer 2014 babies all round please! TTC after MC

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Our brand spanking new thread full of luck, baby dust, BFPs and a few choice swear words.

The Rules...

(1) A lady may only POAS on a Friday.
(2) Friday means the day that everyone calls Friday in the time zone where you spent the night.
(3) Rule (1) does not apply to POA-OPK-S, UNLESS they are being illegitimately used as surrogate HCG detectors, in which case Rule (1) most definitely does apply
(4) Rule (1) does not apply following a BFP because if you want to waste £25 a day POADigiS that's your prerogative
(5) Rule (1) does not apply if a lady is POAS in an attempt to get a BFN to prove she can start DTD with intent
(6) Rule (1) does not apply if a lady wants for unknown reason to pee on an actual stick, like a twig or some such, if that lady is unexpectedly caught short whilst tramping in the forest looking for bears.
(7) These rules (including Rule (1)) are subject to the change at any time if the ladies of the Posifrickentivity thread decide on a whim come up with empirical evidence to prove that it is luckier to POAS on any other day of the week
(8) Violators of Rule (1) shall be subject to fish throwing.

And as a grand finale, why not pledge to NEVER POAS before 14DPO?

Sorry for lack of posting ladies. I've been wallowing in my AF misery. Have cheered up today though as we've bought a new puppy!!

Massive congrats to nerdy and wiggle! It's great to see some BFPs.

Welcome normal. Sorry you find yourself here. It took us 8 months to conceive the baby we lost too. I think I'll lose the plot if it takes that long again. My cycle has also gone a bit awry and I am spotting throughout it. I'm seeing the doc on Tuesday and going to mention it so will report back.

Glad you got your tests back camomile. I know it must be so hard for you but at least there is something they can look at treating now.

I've wondered the same about endo sundance. I have random pelvic pain and heavy, painful periods. It's another thing I want to discuss with the GP. They'll probably throw me out with my list of things I want to discuss!

Hello all. I joined a little while ago but haven't been very visible. I didn't have much to say.

Sal thanks for really really making me laugh. I even had to read them out to DH...

I need a big fish slap. I tested this morning and got a BFP, 3.5 weeks after my last MC amd with no AF in between.

Now very anxious and so is DH, but I figure I'm not going to get a live baby without going through this. Each day at a time and see how we go...

Thank you peeps! :) Suzybean, ovarian cysts and/or PCOS sounds more likely for me too if it's not endo. I'm sure from memory that there are a few of us on here that started noticing more pains especially after the mc, and especially around ovulation time.

I only had the one US at my 12 week scan, nothing was picked up but then they weren't looking for that and picking up the mc may have been a distraction. I'm going to ask for one if I can though.

Thanks miss p, it's been a long month but I'm feeling a lot more practical (if that makes sense?) I've not snotty-cried for the last few days which is a start. I also understood that endo would be more of a problem with conception so hoping that's not my issue.

Downtown Abby is pissing me off...everyone seems to get pg so easily!!

Congrats tannyloo!!!

Evening all.

Has anyone had their progesterone levels checked after one miscarriage? I have a lot of symptoms of low progesterone levels and don't want to bother the doctors if I'm just going to be told to sod off

flower if that was me I would really be thinking implantation bleed. You do get some people that have heavier ones. The fact yours was 7 dpo or something and stopped deffo hints it might be...
Wow bezza new puppy!! What breed did you get? How cute!
Congrats tanny!! You are one of the lucky 'fertile after miscarriage' people I thought didnt exist!!!
Never mind downton, everyone round me in Real life seems to get pregnant so easily except me!
Re progesterone test - I had the '21 day' test about 5 months after my mc. Normally if you ask to be tested you will as its only a blood test not complex fertility treatment. Although doc might want you to wait til cycle has settled...

Flower - I would be questioning implantation bleed too...fingers crossed.

Congrats to all the BFP's this month, I hope the run continues...

I'm currently laying in bed, bum on pillow post dtd for the fourth night in a row. Currently on day 17, got my peak and positive opk yesterday so might do one more tomorrow and then continue every couple of days or something.

I do feel strangely calmer this month, slightly less obsessive and I haven't cried for 3 weeks. I am thinking it might be due to the antidepressants but who knows.

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tannyLoo72 No fishslaps if you've poas waiting for a BFN after MC so you can start trying again - it says so in the rules. Sorry you're in here with the rest of us, but fingers crossed your stay is a short one!

Really not sure what's going on this cycle; I'm now at CD29 (which technically is 2 days late for me) but only 9dpo. I had some cramping earlier but it wore off with no other sign of AF. I can't trust to temping because I have a cold so my temperature is slightly up. I'm wondering if the cramping was implantation, as the timing was about right - but I just don't trust the signals I'm getting from my body any more. It's been like this so often only to end up with a BFN. No point in testing until Friday anyway, as even if it WAS implantation then there likely wouldn't be enough hcg to give a BFP until then anyway.

I'm just so tired of the uncertainty. I hate Schrodinger's Pregnancy Time!

Oh Ark - fingers and toes crossed.

Congrats Tannny - think its always going to be a horrendously stressful time.

Over - glad to hear things are feeling a bit better and good effort this month on the TTC front. Here's to good news in two weeks.

Any pics Bezza? Love puppies.

Sundance - yay to no snotty nosed crying. It's progress!

I'm going to phone my Dr today and query -nag with a hint of hysteria- when I'll be seeing him so we can put in place a treatment plan. Don't like the idea of waiting another month when we had to wait last month too (I was away over ovulation - which given the news is now in hindsighy a good thing I guess).

Happy Mondays everyone. Lets don our fake cheeriness, get our "I'm good thanks" replied ready to go and we'll be off.

Crossing out fail but you get what I mean.

wow, tanny! that's great.

normal I got my progesterone checked after 1 mc, but it was after 6+ months of fruitless trying (and crying at the doctors).

cam that sounds like good news re your test results - at least there is something quite simple that can be done. I hope you can get an appointment soon.

over i'm glad that you're feeling better this month.

flower i'd be thinking implantation bleed... fingers crossed, I so hope it is that for you.
ark fingers crossed for you too!

AF is technically 1 day late now, but actually (probably) i'm only 7 dpo. Had a temp dip at 5dpo, which i'd like to think was an implantation dip, but is probably more likely to be just a random fluctuation. This is going to be a long week...

Hi everyone

I'm beginning to panic a bit about whether everything is ok. I had been getting some symptoms like sore boobs and a bit of sickness and bloating and frequent weeing but they have seemed to be less since yesterday evening. Still getting tired though. I have been doing tests everyday and they are still positive but another MMC is on my mind :(

Sorry I've been quiet last few days. Had a very busy weekend and only just catching up on everyone's news.

camomile glad to hear you are taking your test results positively. Hopefully at least there is something you can do about it - rather than 'unexplained' - so I agree you are better off knowing now.

aly how is it going? Have you risked any fish slaps yet and tested?

flower that one-day bleed sounds quite like an implanation bleed. Fingers crossed for you !!

Someone asked about spotting pre-AF - and that is the same with me. I never had this before mc. I've been hoping to go to the GP on this but my appointment keeps getting cancelled. Its good to hear that they are not difficult about offering progresterone test - as I would definitely like to have that done as well.

My cycle has gone completely awry. So I normally ovulated on CD17, with a positive opk on CD15. I am currently on CD 19 and so far not even a positive on the opk, no EWCM either. I had a brief temp rise but then drop again, so no positive ovulation based on BBT either (in case opk was not working!). So basically this seems to be an anovulatory cycle so far. I am thinking along PCOS lines - as I've certainly had the signs/symptoms of PCOS before, but was never diagnosed with it. How is it diagnosed btw?

nerdy - Its hard not to worry - but as long as there is no bleeding or cramps - I think you are ok. Symptoms change on an hourly basis don't they. Also sometimes when you are busy with other things you don't focus on the symptops and feel that maybe they are not there. Also are the lines on the HPT still dark? That is also a good sign, For me they started to get lighter few days before MC.

aly sorry I posted before reading your post. Your luteal phase is 10 days isn't it? Hopefully you get to test on Friday !

I am getting more worried about my lack of ovulation this cycle. Been googling / searching on mumsnet on anovulatory cycles, it seems they can last for several months at a stretch.

nerdy try not to panic. if I were you i'd try and get an early scan so that you don't have to go crazy waiting up to 12 weeks.
Having said that, I wouldn't worry about symptoms seeming weaker from last night, but if you do keep on being symptom free and it's worrying you, that's another reason to push them for an early scan.

don't panic about an anovulatory cycle yet triple. you're only 2 days late for ovulation. I was about 5 days late this cycle, and had been also starting to panic - for no reason it seems.

I will NOT poas before friday. Yes, luteal phase is 10/11 days so I expect AF on friday at the latest. I think i'll know if she's coming before that based on my temps.

aly thanks - i hope that is the case and I do eventually ovulate. At this stage I don't even care if I miss out on dtd - just want to ovulate lol.

Thanks aly and triple
Managed to distract myself a little this arvo.
Did buy a set of clearblue digitals, to see what they say as I've run out of cheapies. The last two I did I do think might have been a little lighter than the darkest one.

It must be really hard nerdy not to worry but it might be good for reassurance to get a early scan I think that's what I will do if I'm ever in that situation again but I'm sure it'll be fine.

triple I wouldn't worry too much hopefully ov will happen soon.

aly ill keep my fingers crossed for you for Friday. I might poas this Friday too but I really think there was too much blood for it to be implantation but who knows!!

Hi triple my ovulation day varies by a week so don't worry just yet! Also worrying can delay ovulation or any time of illness can too. I know it's imposs not to worry but can help explain why things do get delayed.

nerdy how many weeks are you now? I would def go get an early scan or you will tear yourself up worrying and spend a fortune on sticks that can't really give you the right answers you are looking for. Had a few friends recently who symptoms stopped and they all got early scans to give them piece of mind - was £100 but you could easily spend that on sticks in no time!!

Nerdy try and stick to the same brand of PG sticks as they all differ in terms of how dark they are. Even different batches differ, so try not to panic!

That being said, your doc will completely understand if you go in and say you have a loss of symptoms and will probably refer you for an early scan anyway!

Keep busy and book in at the docs! Xx

Nerdy, I have nothing to add to the above posters, just wanted to send you some moral support. I am lucky to be family friends with a scarily eminent gynaecologist who I had a chat with last night and was so utterly reassuring, saying how the chances of mmc again are really tiny, and just what bad luck it is. He also said that the Cardiff scandal in the news was down to a rogue scanner, I was really panicking about the lack of a vaginal scan for my mmc. Apparently provided its confirmed by two scanners, that's the right way to do things. I wish he could give everyone on this thread a call and answer the million questions we have, but I'm not sure what he'd think about that! I think that the least we deserve is a knowledgable and sympathetic ear to reassure and advise and do something if needed. GPs don't quite have the time, I find.

I got a negative today, 2.5 weeks after end of hideously protracted mmc. Shit, but there you go. Upwards and onwards my friends. Camomile, you hit the nail on the head, every time I've said "I'm fine thanks" today through gritted teeth I have thought fondly of you!

AF put in an appearance today. It looks like my cycles have started going the other way - first they got shorter and shorter until they hit 25 days, now the last one was 30 days and this one is 32.

I'd be tempted to just give up, to be honest, except this morning my 6-year-old told me again wistfully how much she'd really like to be a big sister instead of a little one (her big sisters are 21 and 19) and DP is quite keen to get trying again as soon as possible.

Not feeling too full of posifrickenivity at the moment, I must admit.

ark sorry to hear about AF and the every changing cycles. I know exactly what you mean. Everytime my 5 year old says about saving some of the toys and smaller clothes for his sibling, I force myself to carry on - otherwise would happily give up at this point too !

nerdy not quite sure where you are based, but our local hospital also has a drop in EPU where you can self-refer. If you have something like that, then you could probably just go yourself instead of having to speak to the GP first. Are you 6 weeks now? As others suggest, a private reassurance scan may be just the thing. Hope you are less anxious this morning.

thank you all for your support. just holding tight at the moment, lets see what happens with the ovulation and the cycle length. To top it all - I am away again for a family celebration for 5 days. If I will ovulate this cycle - with my luck - I am sure it will happen whilst I am away (with dh at home).

Sorry about AF Ark, it just sucks every time. Well, you know what they all, constantly, unasked say: just when you're giving up, it happens. We're due lots of thread BFPs in that case - they seem to have started, so FX they keep coming.

Just had a really positive appointment at the Doc - I'm so impressed with our GP surgery. I went in to vaguely chat about 'what now, how long do I have to try before IVF etc' (2 years, then c.6 month waiting list) and she said just come in for all the tests. Got my 21 day OV bloods taken there and then, as coincidentally today's CD22, and DH is going in for sperm check. I think everything's fine, but it will be a relief to be able to rule out biological issues and that it's 'just' a matter of time. Obvs don't know what my womb's like, but it's a start. Also said my BMI's too low, so bring on the ! Feel more positive that at least we've logged concerns.

Don't know if we DTD enough/at the right time this month. I'm off to Oz tomorrow and so wish I knew if I could drink during the first week of holiday. AF due bang in the middle: am going to see BF after 1.5 years and not being able to celebrate is a right bummer! At least I'll not be dwelling on 2ww.

Nerdy - I would def get your early scan, to put your mind at ease. I'm sure everything's fine, it's totally natural to notice every fluctuation, but it will make you feel better, I'd think?

We do at least know it's something to do with me rather than DP - we already know his sperm is fine, because he's a sperm donor and they had to do loads of tests to make sure his sperm is fit, healthy & active enough and that it survives being frozen. It's just my body being crap.