Posifrickentivity all round, with a good healthy dash of project desperate. New thread, new luck, new BFPs and Summer 2014 babies all round please! TTC after MC

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Our brand spanking new thread full of luck, baby dust, BFPs and a few choice swear words.

The Rules...

(1) A lady may only POAS on a Friday.
(2) Friday means the day that everyone calls Friday in the time zone where you spent the night.
(3) Rule (1) does not apply to POA-OPK-S, UNLESS they are being illegitimately used as surrogate HCG detectors, in which case Rule (1) most definitely does apply
(4) Rule (1) does not apply following a BFP because if you want to waste £25 a day POADigiS that's your prerogative
(5) Rule (1) does not apply if a lady is POAS in an attempt to get a BFN to prove she can start DTD with intent
(6) Rule (1) does not apply if a lady wants for unknown reason to pee on an actual stick, like a twig or some such, if that lady is unexpectedly caught short whilst tramping in the forest looking for bears.
(7) These rules (including Rule (1)) are subject to the change at any time if the ladies of the Posifrickentivity thread decide on a whim come up with empirical evidence to prove that it is luckier to POAS on any other day of the week
(8) Violators of Rule (1) shall be subject to fish throwing.

And as a grand finale, why not pledge to NEVER POAS before 14DPO?

Exactly 2 weeks til 2014 ladies-our luck is going to change. This time next year we will all either have babies or be securely pg, I know it! Hope there are some bfps before that to get the ball rolling, otherwise I'm fully expecting mine on the 11th Jan 2014! Til then... and shall get me through...

P.s. I also changed my username, it sounded too 'flower fairy' for me!

Back at work today.. Been feeling tired and can't wait for week to be over then I'm off for Christmas. Started off the day with some more pregnancy news though. Ouch.

Chomping my way through a box of thorntons. Need to curb this comfort eating or I will look pregnant without actually being pregnant!

But as you say flower fairy seaside, two weeks til the amazing 2014! although i do feel slightly nervous that come this time next year another of my milestones will have passed bring on the posifrickintivity!!

Ditto fedup, so looking forward to thursday, then off for 2 weeks. Nope: this time next year you'll be looking back on all this as a shite time in your past that you're delighted to be done with. But hopefully we'll all still be feeling tired with our huge bumps, or our sleepless nights with a baby!

Loving the positivity seasides! I am definitely jumping on your bandwagon, I don't think there can be any more shit stored up for me and DH, we've def had our fair share, as have all of you lot.

(Adopts Del Boy voice) "this time next year Rodney!"

fedup well done for surviving first day back. Mine was an utter disaster and I left within 2 hours in floods of tears! Back properly now tho and I actually find it is the perfect distraction, helps that we're so crazy busy.

Sort of looking forward to Christmas, a rest will be nice but seeing preggers SIL (2 weeks behind what would have been my EDD) and all the family oriented stuff is going to be TOUGH.

Pah!! I'm in the knoboff2013 gang too!! This time next year will hopefully be a very different story for all of us! :)

I've self-prescribed baby aspirin. Good or bad idea? RMC consultant said I'd be prescribed it when I get preggers next time as long as a 6 week scan shows all is well. Well screw it, 3 out of the 4 MC have barely made it to 6 weeks, so I'm catching the aspirin train early!!

I've wondered about baby aspirin too, I mean what's the harm?! Do the capsules come in 75mg though? It would it involve chopping some up??

Fortunately parsely I worked from home and have asked to all week - I had the fear of bursting into tears in the office. Work been great to be honest, no pressure to come back, I just told them I wanted too as felt odd leading it til 7 jan and had loads to finish off. Got to go back to hospital this morn to check blood hcg has gone down.. Oh the joys of EPU .

Still bleeding but going to ask them about trying again... Eeek. As lost this one before 6 weeks I hope they will say I can start straight away..

What's my problem? Anyone else find they can just spontaneously cry? Feel so tired as well.

I take baby aspirin, you can buy them at the chemist as low dose aspirin. It's one of about 8 things I am taking at the moment in an attempt to make my uterus somewhere cosy to stay.

People seem to have mixed feelings about baby aspirin though, so people don't take it until they get a BFP, some take it all the time, and some think it won't make any difference. Who knows...

Don't be hard on yourself fedup. You don't have a problem. You are awash with hormones and grieving. Add to that the physical effects and fear of the future. It is no wonder you are tired and emotional. Have you considered having a break from ttc for a month or 2 to let you and you dh recover? By which I mean go with the flow rather than stop dtd. I know how it feels to be obsessively ploughing on and it isn't healthy (do as I say not as I do advice here so feel free to ignore me). Oh and cry and talk about it as much as you want. There us always someone who will listen

Fedup I cry about 4 times a day at the moment, it's getting ridiculous!

I have also been feeling irrationally angry, and completely in a daze most of the time.

I started back at work this week too, you seem to have gone back earlier than me, but I'm just using up air. Nothing remotely useful happening for me work-wise.

My bosses are rubbish, so there's no love lost at the moment.

Shite isn't it?

Just had call back from EPU. Negative for pregnancy. At least that's ok, then why am I so tired still. Apparently my haemoglobin was within normal range too so am not anaemic.

Thanks ladies, I just feel so crap. And sad and tired and pathetic. I'm lucky that my bosses are ok though. I just felt as this is my second mc I didn't want to take off even more time.

Doctor has offered to talk to me some more about what next, back at the EPU next week. Grateful for her time but also not sure what else new she will tell me other than keep shagging

Joke is holly we conceived the month I did sack off ttc! No sticks, no temping, lots of going out and having fun and sex about 4 times around about fertile period. It annoys me to say this but all 3 times I've conceived are when I 'relaxed'. The hardest thing to do but it worked. Going to have to keep up my relaxing (FFS).

Hope everyone ok. tanny I'm up there on crying multiple times a day!!

I just wanted to add a ditto to the relaxing thing. It's one of those really, really, REALLY annoying bits of 'wisdom' insta-differs love to relay to those of us who take longer than the blink of an eye to conceive but, after 18 months of opks, blood tests, a highly undignified date with the dildo scanner and a bag of glow in the dark saline and yet more blood tests, the one month I just thought 'enough!' - up the duff I did go.
But you're right - relaxing, especially after a MC, really isn't easy.

Maybe I should start smoking pot.

Finally, cry cry cry away. I usually have a cry in the shower every morning and on the way home from work and sometimes when I'm trying to get to sleep. Makes it sound like a bloody beauty regime!
In all seriousness, never has the phrase "better out than in" been more true, so just let it out, and DONT feel bad about doing it. Every single one of your emotions is valid.

Ha ha - quite like the pot idea! Normally i would go for wine but just don't feel like it at the moment, disturbing me somewhat!!!

I too cry in the shower. In the toilets and work. On the bus and in the car! I just wondered how much water I have left in me.

I've sacked off work and got into bed for a couple of hours. Just too tired and computer screen was swimming at me.
Given I didn't start til 10 that's a bit crap but never mind. Hoping I recover by Christmas time to be able to remotely enjoy it!

Ah, fedup, parsley and tanny, I am with you about the crying. I am 2 months post m/c and have actually felt shocked that on occasion I don't fancy a good old sob. Time will help, to an extent. It's really early days for you. I was knocked sideways by the exhaustion. I guess you do lose a lot of blood, but I really think it's the emotions that leave you feeling so drained. I went from horribly morning sick at 12 weeks to ERPC in two days. That takes some adjusting to. Get some sleep and eat chocolate.

And hi Holly, how are you today?

I am ovulating. Yay! We have a quintet rehearsing poncey carols in our playroom tonight so I will make eyes at DH over our music, sing seductively and drag him upstairs the minute they leave. Ho ho ho to all.

I'm also with you on the crying front. I actually think I have been worse this last week than at any point other than the first week after mc. I just can't seem to stop myself.
Af has nearly gone and my ttc parcel arrived today- new pack of his and hers vits, opks and conception lubricant. As my lp has lengthened since mc I have decided to look at cm as being the culprit - cant figure out how to use the lube without completely loosing the magic iyswim
I feel a bit like I'm just going through the motions though- just so sad all the time. I need a kick to remind me to be positive.

Not that I want in anyway you ladies to be going through what I am, I do find some comfort in that you know how totally hideous this is and your emotions are all over the shop like mine.
Unfortunately time with me doesn't work, in fact it makes it worse!! So many people told me how fertile I would be after my first mc but took me 10 months to conceive again... Each month the pain was worse. The ttc was actually harder than the mc.
I was hoping with this one as I mc much earlier (last one was almost 12 wks) it would be easier physically but am just as knackered / if not more this time. Perhaps the emotions of the double whammy.

Ha ha hands - be funny if others notice the seduction attempts!

I've starter reading Bridget jones third book - makes me laugh and cry at the same time. And just so glad I've got my amazing DH. A good read though if you want something to do when mooching around.

We used preseed for a bit too fairy and just joked about it and accepted was a bit of a mood spoiler (like condoms really!) but we didnt use the syringe things, just covered DH's stick! !

I use the Pre-seed syringes to decant DHs swimmers onto my friendly cervix!!

syringe sal is back - hurrah!! Now I have a use for those syringes. Do you get your DH to do his thing in a pot and immediately syringe up?! I'm not sure sperm can hang around outside for long.. Or can they?!
I like the idea though when dtd feels like too much effort!!

sal I am half intrigued/half scared to know how you manage that! Haha!

fairy I used to disappear to the loo to wrestle with the preseed syringes! that lasted all of about a week before I gave up and, like fedup just blobbed it where it was needed. Actually using conceiveplus now instead, think it feels like goofy!

Thanks autocorrect for making everyone think I have a Disney character fetish - that should have said 'feels LESS GLOOPY'.

Jeez!

Syringe lesson #1

1.Get DH to do his thing into a little pot.

1. Using a normal syringe (10ml one I think) suck up the swimmers.
2. GENTLY squirt swimmers into a Pre-seed syringe.
3. Lay with your hips on a pillow, put your thumb over the end of the syringe (you'll see what happens if you don't) and insert into your vajayjay making sure you move it all around to get the goods all over your cervix.
4. Either leave the syringe in there for a while or slowly remove it to avoid losing the good stuff!

Having read the stats, the success rate is the same as usual bonking.

The last two times I got preggers we were using this method on and off as well as DTD normally.

Any questions kids?

I just wish we could also do home freezing of sperm for times when DH is away!!

Thanks for the lesson sal
When we next get on the ttc wagon I will indeed run this by DH!

Question is, do you then 'finish' to scoop them up!?I remember you saying DH goes off to make tea after he's deposited and you sort yourself out! Does the same apply for syringe method?! Sorry if this wasn't you!

But sal, is the syringe method any less effort than just having a quickie? I think it would be easier to get DH to dtd than to just produce the stuff to order.
Just had a fab evening at mulled wine party torn between newborn in one room and making small talk with boss who sidelined me at work due to mc. I really need - so glad I haven't ov'd yet.

Fedup - yep, I 'scoop'. ;)
Fairy - I guess it just depends what your OH finds quicker and easier. My DH can knock one out in about 3 minutes whereas on day 5 of DTD it'd take him ages I'm well bored and out of moves by then to get the deed done!!