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A lovely new Fred for us This one will be full of fun and BFP's....well, it better be!!

Choc triggering at 11.15 just did my last 'what a waste of time you were' Menopur and cetrotide. I'm thinking that donor eggs will be the way forward for me. Are you having treatment in the uk?

rabbit please try to stay positive. I have everything crossed for you. IOTO.

Yes, in the UK. Abroad was tricky for us as DH's sperm is frozen from SSR and not allowed to be taken out of the country.

Thank you. I will be having ec on the day I usually ovulate, so it's easy to think I could be going for ec drug free to the same end. However, for all I know Menopur might have made it ripen properly or some other mysterious thing. It's so hard not to fret about every stage.

Talulah - that's way to early to test! Don't forget implantation can be later so a late BFP is always possible.

Rabbit - it only takes 1 and I am a believer in quality over quantity. I've stopped looking at stats it doesn't matter. I had a 1% chance if that of losing my baby and I still did. I take the positive aspect that stats simply do not matter as they do not make a difference to what happens to me.

Choc - good to see you's do thanks for the welcome.

Sorry if I've missed someone, on phone cannot see thread!

AFM - there's a slim chance it could be cancelled - they are not sure if a cyst is a cyst or fluid, so I have to be rescanned. If not, ET is Friday.

Rabbit - eat as much protein as possible.it saved my eggs. Eggs, chicken, pork.

I'd have chicken and scrambled egg for dinner!

I had to Coast for a week (that is no stimms) to keep my OHSS mild. I lost many eggs because of the coasting but it kept the ones left.

Thanks fish. I've had beef for tea! I'm sorry you've had such a tough journey to get here and boo to a pesky cyst. Hopefully it will all resolve and be ok. Stats are just that aren't they I guess. I've been on the shite end for three years so hopefully sooner or later things will switch!

Bugs in my ivf hole/prison I've developed inch long roots. I wasn't aware dying hair was bad.. Does it depend on the kind of dye?

Evening all
fish I forgot to answer yesterday - I've been back to work as normal since EC. Luckily it was on a Friday so I only needed the day off work & could spend the weekend recovering. I was borderline OHSS so did need the rest . I've been back at work since, with just a few hours off for ET. I'm going crackers as it is so I'd be a complete nut job if I was at home all day.

As you can probably tell ladies I am avoiding the internet for fear of overdosing on symptom spotting . Still have very hurty boobs

Rabbit - definitely do the protein thing , just go mad for it - I think it made a massive difference to my follies

Brooks, I've done some baking recently - the bonus of having time on my hands being in my mum's house. That said I went old school and didn't use a mixer as I was making biscuits. I even made my own spice mix up with a pestle and mortar. How bloody earth mother type am I?? That said, this is a scrumptious recipe that you definitely do need a mixer for www.lovefood.com/guide/recipes/12684/gizzi-erskines-blackberry-bakewell-cake
I made my signature tuna pasta bake dish tonight - layer of gently fried leeks, pasta, layer of tuna, layer of mushroom, peppers, sweetcorn and repeat then topped by a very cheesy and obscenely garlicky white sauce. Not for the faint hearted! I am oozing garlic now. No fear of vampire attacks tonight.

For those PUPO ladies I can only sympathise - symptom spotting on the evil fanjo bullets (Brooks I told you they were bad but you'd forgotten hadn't you!) is menkulltastic. I found that my best trick was to try and stay positive about being PUPO rather than thinking about not being pregnant. I was more worried about testing at all and would almost have been happy to leave it longer...well almost anyway!!!

AFM thank you all for your kind words, it has meant a lot to me. Dad wasn't able to come home today but hopefully will tomorrow - we have the banners ready and that will be my job in the morning - to make everything look blingtastic for his return

Life, good luck with cyst scannage xx

Thank you fab. I'm strangely calm(ish) there is simply nothing I can do. I wish you all the best for your dad's return home and I am still here squeezing you hand.

brooker its the commute I dread. I know I sound precious! Last time I was in too bad a state to work - I couldn't leave the house easily due to the OHSS. It's only when I look back I realise how bad it was - I couldn't walk without feeling pain! Plus I had nothing to wear.

I'm back on the fanjo bullets from today - thank you everyone from reminding me of those side effects!

Re beauty - I sorted hair between Ec and Et as well last time. In all honesty I doubt it makes a difference, but I tried to ensure there was nothing that we could blame ourselves for if it didn't work out as this is all hard enough without giving opportunity for irrational blame casting later.

Mrfish wouldn't shag me for those reasons. Nearly 4 months without sex in all . Some of that was due to monster ovaries and then miscarriage though.

Well, I tested again this morning with FMU. And now I'm totally unsure. I thought there could be the ghost of a line, but maybe it's wishful thinking or an evap. I'm not feeling hopefully.

Sorry for no personals, more tonight.

Tal sorry for the ambiguous test. I sometimes get shadow evaps on cheapies and when I had a cp earlier this year the line was most definitely pink rather than see through. However I have never seen an evap on a frer? Also I've read lots of white/grey lines going on to turn pink. It's such a headfuck.

Fab love the food talk! I made a lemon and pistachio loaf last week and it was very good indeed. It's a river cafe recipe and I highly recommend it.

I am triggered. This bit all feels a bit limbo ish and nerve wracking.

Fish hope all goes well today.

Hey all, scan is tm. Though I'm at the hosp now for a therapy session.

Quick question - I had first crinone today but I'm getting kind of period twinges although in not due for 2 weeks. This is the crinone right? Or am I going to lose my lining?

rabbit hugs. Not for the result or anything as I still think it's too early and you are torturing yourself. But for the headfuckand obsession that I remember well. And am dreading. I hope you take that in the spirit it is meant.

Talulah how many dpt are you? Is Thursday your OTD? I'm hoping that faint line will turn into a big fat line by tomorrow.

Rabbit well done on triggering! Just think you can have a little fucker (needle) free day today. Keep positive, you will get there IOTO

Life I've only used cyclogest but I had cramps from starting them. Just really vague could be period pain feelings. I'm sure it's nothing x

I've been to my appointment. Now treating myself to a chai latte and muffin before heading home. DH has gone back to work. We saw a new consultant. To sum it we are still unexplained. We only just fell into ICSI category as DH's count was 14.5 million and there cut off is under 15. Count at EC was 70million. She said we could try IVF next time but she still would recommend ICSI so we have said we will continue with that. Out of our 6 fertilised eggs only one was good quality which she agreed was disappointing considering my AMH, age and eggs collected. Her suggestion is to try short protocol with menopur next time. She said on paper long protocol should be best for me but suspects I might produce better quality eggs on short protocol. She was quite nice and did take time to explain things. However she did give us quite a hard time about testing early and was reluctant to refer to our loss as a loss (god knows what it was then even though pregnancy and miscarriage was confirmed by EPU) DH was brilliant though as he asked her what her reasons where against early testing. She could only come up with false positives due to trigger shot and that some people stop the suppositories too early if it's negative.
He responded that we fully understood the risks of false positives/negatives, he appreciated her opinion but that it is our decision when to test. He also told her he disagreed with their testing policy as it is a good 4 days longer than most clinics. She then said well you obviously know what your doing! I completely forgot to ask her about immune tests but I'm sure she would have said we don't need it as she seemed unwilling to talk about our miscarriage anyway.

So I can request on AF which is due in about 10 days but I'm sure it will be a no due to Xmas closures. I can still request over Christmas when the next AF is due. I just leave a message and make sure not to have unprotected sex (ha!!) until someone contacts us.

Cup I'm a bit cross on your behalf that there wasn't acknowledgedment of your loss which at six weeks is a miscarriage and should, imo,be referred to as such. A bfp in any case, even if only for a day is a different kettle of fish to a bfn as it indicates that the egg continued to divide and implant. I don't know, in no expert. I've had two positive tests that were not evap lines that came to nothing and no one has given a jack shit when I've mentioned it and I've also been told off for not waiting at least two weeks to test. Mm. Other than that how do you feel about the review, is she generally nice and positive?

fab hope your Dad is home today & you're able to have sone lovely family time together x
talulah are you 8dp2dt? Hope that line gets stronger tom

We didn't quite get to 6 weeks. Not that it matters one jot to me. We would have felt the loss as much as if we had that BFP for just a day. I've got a copy of my letter from the EPU to GP which details a pregnancy confirmed by rising HCG and that they confirmed miscarriage at 5+6 (tbh I already knew it was over at 5 weeks as HCG was static then).
Apart from that she was very nice and said she was hopeful that we would get there. She even said we mustn't give up hope of a natural conception but after 4 years of relatively frequent dtd I can't hope anymore.

I was trawling through infertility last night as I couldn't sleep. I noticed a post from you about having treatment at care in Manchester. I live in Manchester and I'm having my treatment at st marys. I've looked into transferring to care but not getting anywhere with the pct yet.

Hi everyone. Been away for a day and it seems like ages! Thankyou Cups, Rabbit, Tulu, Choco and Brooker for your kind words on my 'no symptoms' post. I do believe that it is too soon for symptoms, but still no implantation bleeding either - ziltch, nada, nowt!
Nice work on the growing of your eggs Val - quality not quantity!
Choco glad your off those horrible pills now - hope you start to feel better soon and back to normal
Rabbit - it is good to keep your options open, but don't give up on what you're doing at the moment. I had some really low times, each time i went for a scan, they could hardly see any eggs and they were disappointed in my growth. But in the end i got 2 good quality eggs which were strong too. So, although it's good to think of the alternatives, don't get too disheartened on the present - keep the PMA going x. congrats on the trigger - you're nearly there!
Bugs - i spent years dying my hair all types of different colours, but it just so happens i'm au natural at the moment, so at least that's one thing less i have to stress about!
Life fingers crossed for you lovely, that they don't need to cancel and can carry on, thinking of you x
Cups - sorry she didn't recognise that as a miscarriage, it most definitely is to me, and don't let anyone take the memory of being pregnant away from you.... xx
Talu - you're meant to be testing the same day as me, Monday 18th. I'm absolutely desperate to test, but i wouldn't do it for at least another 2 or 3 days at the earliest - but whatever works for you - good luck.
I had better get back to work! x

Hi all. I am only 8dp2dt (10dpo) today so you are all right, it's too early to test.
I'm feeling sick though, not PUPO related but down to a mouldy sandwich from the work canteen and I hope it doesn't affect my embies.

Personals later, I'm still at work.

brook what a romantic dh you've got! Actually I made an amazing curry paste with my blender at the weekend. Dp was very impressed and told me it smelt like REAL curry

nobeer mm, curry. Share the recipe on here? My DH loves a curry and it would be nice to surprise him with some cooking.

iwant I really do think there's no link between symptoms, or the lack of them, and results. We have so many hormones in our system from jabs/pills/pessaries that anything can be blamed on them. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you - and I admire your ability to withstand the peestick :)

nocupcakes how heartless! One thing that made me love my GP even more was being told 'a loss is a loss' after yet another chemical pregnancy. Some of these consultants need to work on their bedside manners. I hope you start to move forward with your treatment soon. My OTD is next Monday - 14dp2dt. I test too early.

brooker I will be testing tomorrow, and everyday thereafter. I cannot resist the pee sticks. Only 3 sleeps until your OTD, how are you coping? I have my fingers crossed for you.

rabbit trigger out the way, now to relax. I hope EC goes smoothly for you, what time are you in? I am using DE, so any questions feel free to PM me (not that I'm an expert)

bugger I am going grey. I hate dying my hair anyway, it either ends up staining the bathroom if I do an at home job, or costing a fortune in a salon. I reserve the right to re-colour it all when/if I get to 12 weeks though!

fish I hope your scan goes well tomorrow. You are right about this whole process being a headfuck. It's like my own private hell in my head at times.

fabuluce thanks for the recipe link definitely one to try out. I am trying to stay positive about being PUPO but it's hard. I hope your dad makes it home soon.

choco hopefully you are feeling a bit less sick, how are you doing today?

Really hope I've not missed anyone out if I have. I am home early from work. I told my boss after the mouldy sandwich trauma that I felt sick and couldn't stay late for open evening. Other teachers were staying if all they had to do to get out of it was to eat mouldy sandwiches then bring it on. I feel slightly guilty now I'm at home, but I really did feel horrible at the time. Possibly testing again tomorrow, but will try to resist.

Thanks for the reminder bugs - I've just booked in to get my highlights done before the next cycle.

Fab I hope all goes well with your dad's return home.

Good on Mr Cupcakes for standing up to the consultant! It's appalling that your loss was not acknowledged and it's damn well up to you when you test.

rabbit - fingers and legs and everything crossed for you! Go follie go!
fish - You're totally right about how nerve-shredding this whole thing is. I now have no nails to speak of - and I haven't bitten them since I was a kid!!
I want - no symptoms here either. Slight twinge at first, but I think that's due to all the messing around with needles and catheters and whatnot that happened in the last week - argh.

Just a quick visit, sorry not to mention all! Omfg btw though - cannot stop weeping when the John Lewis ad comes on. Hormones...? Or just being a big girl's blouse?

bikes I totally well up at the JL ad. I even went on youtube to watch past year's and sobbed at them too. And I even felt a bit emotional when I saw an ambulance with the blue light going today. I blame hormones, I'm not normally this mental.

euro When do you start the meds? Will your next cycle be kicking off soon?