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A lovely new Fred for us This one will be full of fun and BFP's....well, it better be!!

That's the spirit bugs

Still a BFN....

so sorry wish. Be kind to yourself and have a good old cry.

wish really sorry to hear that Xx

Oh wish so sorry lovely. Take care of yourself x

choco I live in a pretty remote rural area - we have to entertain ourselves by jumping in the sea or running up hills! Swim again this morning - it's a lovely way to start the day! Only thing is that then I get hungry and eat EVERYTHING. So much for pre-ivf diet...

Hope all are well today

Sorry wish. Treat yourself to something nice and keep ur chin up if u can. Hand hold and squeeze x

wish so sorry to hear that - hope you can take some time to look after youself xx

Thanks everyone. It hasn't hit me as hard as the last one but I really did think it was going to work this time and I have no idea why!

I phoned the clinic and I now have to wait 5 weeks for a follow up appointment (even if I pay privately) which is annoying! that means it'll be feb/march before we get to do another FET/IVF!
I feel like we're just another number to the clinic because we're NHS. The after care is terrible! I didn't even get a phone call let alone a follow up appointment last time. Nothing was changed or explored and I'm sure it won't be this time unless we really push for it! I'm just royally pissed off!

It may sound really ungrateful but we're thinking about skipping our NHS cycles and going privately. Maybe then we will get exploration tests/answers to why this isn't working when I don't seem to have a single thing wrong with my lining! We live in Somerset but are happy to travel to London, we just need to speak to family who are helping us financially.

The ARGC clinic looks more like what we want/need. Does anyone have any advice?

wish so so sorry. Make sure you take it easy the next couple of days. Can't believe the clinic is taking so long for the follow up. No wonder you are looking at alternatives, I certainly would.
tallulah a big hand hold for you sweetie. I'm sure sunnier days are up ahead
fab can't believe your clinic either. That is shocking.
bikes I am so impressed with the whole swimming before breakfast. I have done it too. But it was in Australia. And summer.
Bugs Did I really read that you eat Banana and blueberry omelettes???? You must post that recipe.
Brooker I am praying that tomorrow is the start of the rest of your life
Iwant how are you today?
nobeer get off bloody MN and get some packing done! Only joking
Waves and hugs to everyone else.

Well, AF turned up today out of the blue. That certainly stopped me in my tracks. Heaven knows what all those drugs have done....

Oh wish, I'm so sorry :-( bloody Ivf crap. You could always go private to have the tests and see what the results say, before giving up your nhs slot? Although can see the temptation of going private. I definitely had more options once I was paying for my cycles.

Brooker, good luck got scan tomorrow. Really hoping you can get in the Gonal F and start feeling much better.

Everyone else hellooooo :-D

Local clinic appt tomo for me. Nk cells and thyroid results.

Good luck today brooker and stars.

I'm trying to minimize my mn time so I get some stuff done! See you all soon. xx

On way to work from clinic. All looking good so fx I can start stimming on Thursday. Just need blood results this afternoon to confirm. Good luck with the results today stars
Understand nobeer - packing must come first! x

Thanks nobeer, hope you have been productive with packing

Brooker, thanks hun, great news that all is looking good at scan and Stimms should be thurs. Did you get confirmation? Did they give you an idea I mid how many follies you have lurking?!

Wish, hope you're ok lovely? Hugs.

Both my nk cells results and thyroid results were normal, do that's good news. Weirdly almost wanted something to be wrong to give me an answer to why it's bit bloody working,guess that's a bit warped, but ultimately I'm happy I don't have any immune issues... God this Ivf really messes with your mind! Anyway next week is hsg results, see what's what with those.

Hope everyone is ok? X

Evening all!
Very quiet on here today...
Hi stars glad the results came back all clear. Understand you wanting to find an answer as to why it's not working - not warped thinking at all. Look
at it as ticking something else off the list. x
Afm - had confirmation this afternoon that I start stimming on Thursday. Halle-fecking-lujah! Didn't find out anything else other than lining nice & thin & hormones where they need to be-? Who cares - hopefully I will be feeling more like myself in another few days'.
Hope everyone is ok xx

stars I'm glad your results came back clear. I completely understand to wanting there to be something there to be able to fix! I feel the same. We're in complete limbo eh?

brooker I'm glad you get to start stimming soon

Sorry I've been a bit absent. Obviously I'm getting over the bfn but also not bleeding so it's very annoying. I think AF is on her way but I have felt that for nearly a week now!

We've been looking at private clinics and ruled ARGC out as although the have very high success rates, there are some serious horror stories out there. We're now looking at The Centre for Reproductive and Genetic Health who have a 64% live birth rate or CARE who have a lower success rate but claim that with 'time lapse technology' their success rates go up to 78%.

All of this would mean me taking 3 weeks off work unpaid and staying in Northampton but is it worth it? We're still trying to work that out...

For anyone interested - fertilityshow.co.uk

Brooker brilliant news that tomorrow is the beginning of Stimms. You will feel soooooo much better without a doubt!

Wish, thanks hun. Glad I'm not the only one having those thoughts. Sorry af hasn't shown up yet, I swear it does it to tease us in these situations! Where are you based? If I'm right, the time lapse technology is the embryoscope and lots of clinics are using these or offering these now. My clinic in London (Ivf Hammersmith) have it as do my local clinic too. Hope you can make the right decisions. It's not easy choosing between clinics, I know.

It's peeing down with rain here! Yuk! Hoping it stops this arvo as DS and dog both need a trip to the park but I don't fancy getting drenched!!

Hi wish. I'm so sorry this cycle hasn't worked out for you. When did you stop with the pessaries? Really hope AF doesn't muck you about too much. Can't help on the ARGC front I'm afraid. I had to wait 6 weeks for my consult after failed cycle #1. It felt like forever but with hindsight, the break helped me think clearly. Fwiw I would not make any decisions until you've had your consult. Keep all your options open until then (it doesn't stop you looking into other clinics in the meantime though). xx

Girls I've been having an app nightmare and haven't been able to get on for ages! I'll try and catch up but just wanted to say yay for brook (very excited) wish I'm thinking of you xxx

Hello all

Yay Brooks - so pleased you'll be entering a calmer stage for you - time to start feeling a bit more like you again - it will hopefully be a lovely relief :)

Wish - yes I believe the ARGC is very full on and from what I hear it would be very difficult to work whilst going through the process. Some people refer to it as IVF boot camp and that it can be very impersonal when you are in a room rammed full of stressed women. That said, they clearly individualise each cycle specifically to you which is something that some clinics are woefully poor at doing and I know that women have made great friendships with other women who are going through the same thing. A colleague of my DH went with them and swears by them - she had that one embryo one hope moment....and had twins! After several failed IVF attempts and miscarriages. I'm happy with my clinic (despite last week's cock-up on the appointment) as my consultant has a fantastic reputation particularly with immune issues which is exactly what we've just found is where our problem lies. The CRM (which is where my clinic carries out all it's procedures) offers the embryoscope too. They are very good at the TLC touch - everyone seems to have been hired for their people skills which is a change from most medical practices!

Llw - yep - the app has been utterly pants - it's doing my effing head in!

Stars, so frustrating that you don't have an answer yet but on the positive side at least they are things you can scratch off your list.

AFM well I've had the results of my autoimmune tests, finally. My anti-nuclear antibodies (ANAs) are very high apparently and my NK cell activity is raised plus my MTHFR (clearly now named MotherFucker in the fab household) cells have an issue so I'm going to need Prednisolone, Clexane and Intralipids plus low dose aspirin and high dose folic acid along with vits B6/B12. I also need to have further tests with an auto-immune specialist (through the NHS thankfully) to find out why my ANAs are so high as it may mean ongoing lifestyle management. Great! Something to look forward to. I don't need any pre-treatment before my next round of IVF as it's all about implantation for me so it looks like we can go ahead with our next round of IVF in November. Christ knows how expensive the drucks are going to be - does anyone know? Help!

I think they're about a grand, fab.

Stars I'm also at Hammersmith. Would love to say hi and give you a hug if we're ever there at the same time. I'm next there on Monday morning at 11am.

Hello all, hugs to all x