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A lovely new Fred for us This one will be full of fun and BFP's....well, it better be!!

Awww Wish, I'm so very sorry for your BFN - I'm really gutted for you. Am sending you a big virtual hug right now ((((( )))))).

Brooker - so sorry you are feeling crap - the drugs do indeed sound like a bitch (and I regret my previous flippant post about my hopes for them - sorry ladies).

Fab - I too had a curry and two glasses of wine last night and felt so ill this afternoon that I am lying in bed right now. Think I'm getting flu, which is rubbish. Surely we can't really be hungover?! Arrrgghhh...

Hey - at least it's Saturday though, eh? Lots of love to all xxx

stars There's mixed messages about the raspberry leaf, but more argument for that against. Although I used it to wash down the vitamin tablet ad apparently I shouldn't have done that as it can affect absorption of vitamins.

I'm also going to be drinking nettle tea later, also good for building up uterine lining, and some of DH's protein shake.

Thank you ladies. You are all great
Is it irrational to feel mouth-wateringly sick when I look at the fertility friends site? The sight of so much baby dust actually has a physical effect on me -bbllleeuughh

Totally rational Brooks - I feel like that and I'm nowhere near down regging :). Babysitting is just chreezy bollox for instadiffers!

Ps we know it's not like you lovely as you are normally so chipper! How much longer do you have to go and how long have you been doing it for? X

Sigh. 12 days' in fabbie. You are sooo right-feels like forever. I'm back in on Tues & really hoping I am ready to start with the stimming. This down regging is the pits. How's the hangover light weight?

The app keeps closing agsin grrrrr!

I don't mind a bit if babydust myself! Hee hee! But have refrained in this thread as I know a lot of people find it sickening!

Tallullah, go for it with the raspberry leaf tea then..oops but perhaps not with the vitamins! Lol.

Brooker, fingers crossed Tuesday is the day you get in the menopur and begin to feel a bit more normal, well in the head anyway. Buserilin seriously is evil stuff, in my book!

Badhair, hope you're not getting flu and it's just the silly wine.

Evening all. Sorry for being so quiet recently but have had an absolute mare of a week. DS has the onset of pneumonia (that is the third time this year) so we have been going from one Dr to another and ended up in the hospital having xrays and praying that we wouldn't be admitted. Luckily we could come home, but it has been horrendous. And to top it all off DH is on a business trip which just makes everything that little bit more complicated. But I can see that I am not the only one who could do with a gallon of wine. I have been lurking, but trying to keep up is a real challenge so sorry if I overlook anyone.
wish so sorry to hear about your BFN. And I don't think you are hogging the thread at all. Thats what we are here for, hon.
Brooker really hope that Tuesday brings an end to the misery
Tallulah after all that protein you are going to have a lining we all dream of!
Bikes hello and welcome!
Waves to llw2,choco, stars, drizzle, nobeer, bugs, stars, badhair, still, pram and anyone I haven't mentioned.
AFM I had my appointment yesterday and I came away with a suspected cyst. But then they called in the afternoon with the results of my blood test and said that there wasn't a cyst so it must be the hormones messing me around. And then today I have more spotting WTF! Have decided not to worry and just wait to see what happens.

PS nobeer yes, I do miss fish and chips. As well as a good curry, Boots and Tesco

PPS Bloody hate Baby Dust. It makes me choke. Which is why I never went on any forums until this one

brookerC - totally with you - am going to be a giant nightmare during menopause!! HRT FTW. Buserelin is wonder drug, obviously, but... it makes me feel pretty lousy too.

fab - definitely going to get that book! Thanks for the recommendation.

Btw - just about keeled over with af arriving this afternoon - have never had such horrible cramps!! Does that happen to other folk when DRing? Must look back through threads and see...

Meh, loads more bright red blood. I really think my body doesn't like these patches for some stupid reason.

Feeling sad and depressed, with this cycle looking like its a bust god knows when we get get to transfer again. And it's the due date of the pregnancy I lost on the 16th. My poor precious twins gone at 6+3.

bikes if I get a baybee out of all this I shall no doubt soon forget the side effects of this wicked, wicked drug. I keep reminding myself it's only for a few weeks' of my life
Stars I will be starting gonal-f. Must be similar to menopur I guess?
talulah sounds like you can't do much more love
badhair no need for any apology lovely. I truly hope you do not suffer any of the effects I have endured today.
maryp what an awfully stressful week you've had. Really hope that DS recovers soon. It must be very worrying for you & DH. It's a wonder we're not all raving lunatics with what we have to put up with - physically & mentally. Hope that spotting sods off sharpish too.
nobeer where are you today me darlin'? Hope you're busy sorting/packing
wish thinking of you
I've been out to dinner with my family tonight & spent a few hours laughing my socks off with my sister, which has been such a tonic. Thank god for sisters!

Oh crap talulah how distressing . I really don't know what to say other than here for you & sending a big squeeze xx

Morning all! Hope u are all having a lovely relaxing Sunday? I'm in bed with a cuppa from my DH whilst he looks after his children (here every other weekend) downstairs .
tallulah I'm so sorry to hear ur news it moved me to tears, take it easy lovely.
wish don't worry about hogging the thread we are all learning with the q's ur asking and the answers coming back .
brooker yes I am bruising. I have little bruises down both sides of my thighs, still haven't tried the tummy yet. I've been on buserilin for 12 days now and have just started having hot flushes - man they r a bitch! Hardly had any sleep coz of them. Sharing something with u now which will hopefully make u feel a little better: im on anti-depression drugs as if I didn't I would feel like u do now, all the time! So at least ur only feeling it for a short while and then hopefully u'll be rid of the horrible feelings - I know they r nasty and make u feel like giving up, just drive through it brooker u can do it (sending hugs). X

Morning!

talulah sorry to hear about the red blood. Can you speak to anyone today? Are you on prognyova at the moment? So sorry you're feeling sad, the anniversaries are the worst thing. [hugs]. The epigenetics thing is quite interesting, I've read about that.

prambo thanks for the link to the assisted conception thread. I'll have a look.

wish so sorry to hear about your negative tests. Have you tested again today? I had a scratch done at your current clinic, but it was bloody expensive there compared to others I've seen. I was treated 'empirically' as I had level 1 immunology tests and nothing showed up on clotting or karotyping, but they were happy to give me clexane and prednisolone anyway - and I think a lot of clinics do this now.

fab so crap about your clinic messing up appointments. Give them hell, I hope you can get in soon and find out your results.

brooker how are you feeling today lovely? I had a failed attempt at DR last summer and I remember sobbing hysterically over something crazy on at least 2 occasions - it's awful. Poor you. Let's hope that when you go back on Tuesday, you will be able to start on stims. Glad your sister helped. I've seen the article that prammy posted about epigenetics, thanks for trying to find it for me

maryp sorry to hear about DS, that sounds awful. Hope he's better soon. What a head fuck with all the spotting, but glad there's no cyst.

bikes hope your AF pains have eased a bit now.

AFM, starting to wonder if I've been too hasty in accepting the donor and wondering whether I should hold out for one with my eye colour, even if I did, then there is still only a 50/50 chance that the child will end up with my eye colour. I veer between telling the clinic I've changed my mind about the donor and thinking it doesn't matter about the eye colour at all as I just want a baby! I suppose in my head it was a possible link I could have with the child by having the same eye colour. Hmmm... Any words of wisdom oh wise ladies?!

Morning all! Feeling much, much better this morning - just had a couple of hours of ARGH last night and seems to be okay today. Went for a very bracing swim in the sea this morning and feeling much better. Eggy bread for breakfast now! Eating eggy bread now will bring me good quality eggs in a couple of weeks at the clinic, surely...that's my excuse anyway and am sticking to it.

Hope all are doing okay today - am up and down and all over the place myself these days, so am just enjoying any times that I feel normal... supposed to be running a half mara today, but DH persuaded me that it was too much pressure (I get a little wound up about beating my times!! and it's a 3 hour drive to the race and back from here) so swim and eggy bread it is. Yum!

Thanks all for all the posts here ladies - it really does help to read about everyone's experiences and see that it's not just me! And you're all so supportive and lovely and full of helpful advice. Thanks xx

Have never tried banana in omelette before! Def giving that one a go tomorrow...!

talulah I'm very sorry to hear about your scan. I hope they're doing what they can to help you. You will get there xxx

choco how much did the scratch cost at said clinic? I can't help but feel that I want to move clinics but maybe I'm just looking for someone to blame? How much were the immunity tests?
We've decided to test again tomorrow as it is OTD and still no AF here. I'm not holding me breath though

choco I can completely understand how you're feeling about the eye colour. You're having a donor egg so want to try and make it 'yours' as much as you can. My feelings are that it is your baby anyway. It will be growing inside you and feeding from you. You will be giving birth and bringing that baby up teaching it your values and culture BUT at the same time you need to feeling 100% happy with it and it doesn't make you a bad person for not taking the first donor. What does DH say? x

I emailed the clinic about my continued bleeding and cramps and have just had a nurse email back to confirm the cycle will have to be cancelled and to ask me for my availability later today/this week for a telephone consultation. I'm on a week of progesterone pessaries and then off drugs and waiting for AF.

I'm going to have a month wait to get my system back to normal, I have work commitments in November anyway, and then will see if we can get the FET in before the Xmas shutdown on an unmedicated cycle, unless the Dr recommends otherwise.

talulah I've just read back through posts properly - I'm so sorry to hear about this. Maybe a cycle before Christmas though? It's so frustrating when something sets you back like this - hope you're doing okay x

bugger bit numb, strangely relived (if I had gone ahead with a less than perfect lining I would have been worried that would cause a BFN) and determined to spend the next month or so on a pre-transfer health kick to maximise my chances of success.
A transfer in December would mean a September due date, which would be better anyway in terms of maternity leave.

bikes IVF is never simple. I just have to remain focused on all the good things in life. DH is being wonderful and we will get there in the end I hope.

Wow it's been a busy weekend on here, just caught up. I've been away at the inlaws, and then marking this morning. Lots of sorting on Friday, but not much more packing. Interesting to read the immunology costs on here too! I'll see what immunologist says later this month, hopefully she'll say that it's highly unlikely that I'll have immune issues and not to bother wasting my money . However I suspect that's doubtful from a private clinic!

MaryP sorry your DS has been poorly, sounds like he's been having tough time of it. Sending you a hug.

Talulah I'm sorry to hear this cycle hasn't worked out, but maybe we'll be cycling together in Dec. Sounds like those patches really didn't suit you. I decided against them on my last FET because I've got sensitive skin and didn't fancy an allergic reaction.

Wish how are you doing my love? Hope you're ok xx

Choco how long would it be until another donor match came along? I think you should go for it! My brothers and my eyes are blue, green and brown (not a mixture in each eye, oh you know what I mean!!). Mum has green and dad had blue eyes.

brooker are you feeling a bit better? Although I've never met you in RL I agree that the crying in the car doesn't sound like you. You're a strong woman, just keep reminding yourself that it is the hormones NOT you.

fab I ordered the Dr Beer book but it never arrived . There was a problem with Royal Mail so I got a refund from the seller. You've reminded me to order it again.

Waves to stars, bugger, Llw res, bikes, badhair and still. Hope I haven't forgotten anyone. And a hug for Pram cos I miss you!

Right, I'd better go and do some more marking then put some stuff in boxes.

Thanks bugger for your point of view, I think you're right about the eyes, just having a bit of a wobble.

bikes glad you're feeling better today, a swim in the sea?! Half marathon - wow, I'm in awe.

wish everything crossed for testing tomorrow x Said clinic charged a whopping £379 for the scratch!! On my new clinic's price list it's 150. The blood tests I had were about £800, but I probably paid over the odds there too. It's hard to know what to do re changing clinics, I felt the embryology team there were really good and I liked the nurses, Mr D was good, but some things relating to treatment e.g. different drugs only came about if you asked - I didn't think he was as proactive as I'd have liked sometimes. Thanks for your input on the eye colour conundrum, DH will support whatever decision I make and the colour doesn't bother him in the slightest. My heart is telling me to go for it, but my head is unsure!

talulah so sorry to hear that you can't go ahead with this cycle, as you say you wouldn't want to go ahead if things weren't right and you can make sure you are super fit and ready when you can go again.

nobeer I too recommend Dr Beer's book, it's a really interesting read. Thanks for your input about the eye colour, I don't really know why I'm getting hung up on it. I don't know how long it would be until another match comes along, but we're happy with all the other details about the donor.

Good evening ladies!
So sorry to hear about your cancelled cycle talulah. I have to agree that if you had the transfer without a good quality lining, you may have had regrets if the cycle subsequently failed. Hope you're able to cycle in December. The thought of a drug free FET sounds very appealing to me (and surely is better for the body). Hugs x
iwant thank you so much for sharing such a personal part of your life with me. I hope the hot flushes ease off & allow you to get some sleep. I've had a good day today with little side effects
wish hoping that tomorrow's test brings some joy. Here for you whatever the outcome x (btw, my scratch was £140)
choco glad you found the article. I failed spectacularly! On the eye colour subject, I really understand your fears but in the end, this child will be yours. You will carry, feed, develop, nurture & raise this baby. But you & DH need to be happy with any decision you make. Keep talking to us lovely x
nobeer I have been imagining you & your brothers all with multi-coloured eyes . Thank you for your kind words. This stuff is truly horrendous! I have just read through my clinic notes which state that I could be on this shit for another week or two before stimming. AAAAHHHHH! All I'm saying is get ready ladies. I may be requiring mucho hand holding
bugs bananas in an omelette has me intrigued. I may have to try it How are you doing? Any chance of that ironi-diff?
bikes that bracing swim sounds....cold. Brrrrr. What day of the DR are you on? Totally relate to you making the most of the goods days.
maryp hope DS is improving today x
llw & driz If you're lurking ladies, hope everything is ok with you both xx
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