Anyone about to start/just started TTC number 2?

[mrsm22]

Hi ladies, I am 31 and have one DS already. After my DS I went back on the pill but have decided to stop the pill and start TTC baby number 2 and wondered if anyone was also just about to start trying or just started and we could follow each other and share as we go along. I literally have stopped my pill last week for the 7 day break, and am meant to start taking it again tomorrow but obviously won't be, so I am very literally just starting to try for number two but am very excited! That's why I thought it might be nice to go through it with other people who are also trying. I have heard some people say that after your first baby you are more fertile but I am not sure so I am really not sure how long it will take this time. Does it usually not take as long second time round? It has taken a lot for me to decide for definite that I'd like another as I had an awful time in labour with forceps and 3rd degree tears etc which really scared me and must admit I'm terrified of another scary birth experience.

That's true, Metalhead. I hope it wasn't though as we've not DTD since CD19!

It didn't feel like OV pain though as I did get that pre DD.

I need to stop putting pressure on myself to get the timing right to avoid having to go back to work after this mat leave.

Funny, we were asking if we're mad earlier, trying for number 2. We decided we were, but in a good way!

And I also think it's impossible to not symptom spit when TTC. So we are all in good company!

Spot, clearly!

Hi all, sorry I've had a busy morning doing the supermarket shop etc and trying to get tumbledrier fixed, all exciting stuff! I feel pretty downhearted today as I felt sure I'd had a show but strangely the light bleeding started Friday night and then I still had a bit on and off on Saturday and Sunday so it could well be a light period as you said Metalhead (it started 4 weeks and 2 days after stopping the pill) so would be the right sort of timing for a period. I'm thinking although it is very disappointing today getting a BFN that surely some natural off the hormones bleeding can only be a good thing. I mean that in terms of, surely I have at some point since stopping the pill ovulated . Is that right , that you ovulate before your period? DH thinks it's still early days, which it is as I only came off the pill on 4th September. I really want to be pregnant by Xmas.
Metalhead - if I'm honest , I still don't really understand how the ovulation kits work or how to use them or even where to buy then but i don't really want to start using those yet. Last time I just came off the pill , we had sex a lot and just waited and in 7 months I fell on with DS. I think I must give it a bit longer before trying those but if nothing happens by Xmas I will definitely be asking you all how to use an ovulation kit and what to do etc. Are you definitely going to poas on Thursday? We will all be waiting patiently with everything crossed for another BFP to follow Donnas.
Hungry - when are you due to go back to work and will that be part time ? I was meant to have 12 months off for my maternity leave but ended up having 18 months off. The six months after my 12 months maternity leave was a career break and that was unpaid. I did that because before having my DS I worked full time and wasn't prepared to go back full time after having DS but work were very difficult and not very accommodating. Not sure if every firm does it, depends where you work but I took a 6 month career break as it meant I could hold on to my job and during that time I hoped I would get my part time hours. In the end I did, but I only went back to work in June (and I would rather be at home with my DS). I work 3 full days (weds , thurs and Friday ). When/ if I get pregnant again I plan to take 12 months mat leave and then not go back as I think it would be hard to work with 2 little one's and I want to enjoy them. That's the plan anyway.

Ah sorry you two, I haven't had the joy of a bfn yet but I can imagine its soul destroying :( at least now you know where you're working abit, if you assume the bleeding was a period. Like you say, it's early days yet.

Lucyjojo - so you could still be our hope for this month. Let us know what happens on weds if you are regular as clock work and it does sound like you have all the right symptoms. It's funny because all this weekend I have felt similar to how I did when I was first pregnant with my DS but then today got the BFN. Fingers crossed for you and Metalhead this week.
BetternotBitter -

Apologies that I keep writing another comment, I keep going back up the thread to see what has been said.
Windywinston and Donna - lovely that you both popped in. I hope you are both feeling well and enjoying being pregnant (apart from the morning sickness Windy )!
Lucyjojo - our little DS has started playing up and having temper tantrums. He will be 2 at the end of December so I think as they approach 2 it gets worse. I find that if my DS plays up, he totally ignores me if I tell him no or to stop something and he can really tantrum and get annoyed yet he doesn't for his dad or for my mum and dad. I think they do play their mums but it doesn't put me off another at all and I love him just the same despite his little temper at times . Usually it's when he is tired or gone a bit passed it.
Utopian - how are you ? Have you had any bleeding at all since stopping the pill? I thought you might have had a bit of light bleeding like me? I know we stopped the pill at around the same time .
Better - how are you ?
Funny - if you don't mind me asking , I just wondered how old you were? Feel free to tell me none of my business. I am just curious as I think women are having children older and it's not even older but whereas a few years ago I think it was more women in their 20's having children but now it is definitely 30's. I turned 32 last month and was 30 when I had my DS. All of my friends who are my age or a year or two older still haven't started TTC. Well one of my best friends is due with her first in January but this is her first and she is 31. Honestly please don't worry about age or size. Hopefully we are fertile and got healthy women.
Hungry - how are you feeling after this morning? I hope you're ok, we have to stay positive.

I think I'm mad quite often for TTC now. DS is only 9.5m and can drive me up the wall sometimes. Like today with his refusal to bloody sleep! I do want 3 2 kids though, and I'd like them close in age to get the difficult baby stuff out the way. I also think two close in age will be easier to occupy as they grow up, as they'll hopefully be interested in the same type of things - ie we can go to a park or something and they'll both be old enough to play in it.
I wonder if I'm doing DS a disservice though, not taking more time to enjoy him and his younger years. It's a bit of a minefield, but we've decided we're going to try from now till Christmas, and if we're not pg then we'll leave it till around the same time next year. Definately don't want another Christmas baby in the family! I only have one tube (I read someone else here does too, but I forgot who) though, so my chances are kind of halved.. There's just not enough time between now and Christmas!

My first symptoms of pg with my DS was having hot hands, diorrhea, and feeling a little nauseous. I got a bfp quite quickly at just 10 dpo, then had about 3 weeks of insomnia. It was strange as I was only getting a couple if hours sleep a night, but I felt fine with it. Soon after replaced with constant tiredness. I never did get sore boobs. There's a website somewhere (sorry, can't remember the link) which you can search for symptoms on, it gives you a % score for how likely it is to be a pg symptom. I think it might be linked to fertility friend? There's also a website you upload your pee stick photos to and people vote on if they think there's a line there :)

So sorry to hear about the bfn's, hopefully they'll turn positive in a few days! Utopian it's hard having no idea when to expect an AF. I'm just trying to stick to dtd about eod but also trying not to stress about it. We've missed a few days out being tired or just not in the mood, dtd shouldn't be a chore.

Thanks Better - it is disappointing when you get a BFN but we have to stay positive and hopeful for more BFP's soon.

Hi Stacks - you are right about DTD meant to be fun and not become a chore. We DTD this morning but this last week we haven't DTD that much also through being really tired, but now after the BFN I will have to step up my game! If it ends up taking me 7 months to conceive like it did with my DS then I would be due around Xmas time again but I really don't mind. Xmas baby or not would be fine for me. Is your DS walking ? My DS started walking at 9 months but I think that's quite early.

Glad I'm not the only one with reservations :) MrsM I'm 36. If I get pregnant in a few months I'll be 37 when born. If I leave it another year I'll be 38. Don't want to wait too long.

Metalhead I am totally with you on the whole baby thing! :) Although I have enjoyed each month more with DD. The first three weeks were horrendous - CS, BFing, no sleep - and DD was a 'good' baby. I was still shattered. A difficult baby would have put me in the loony bin.

Also (confession) DD is SO good that basically the only way is down with number two

I'm great thanks mrs. My app says ovulation is due on Friday so should be in the window now & starting to feel a few cramps so that fits. We're still in the honeymoon period of TTC I think, dtd is certainly not a chore but then we are very lucky with our little girlies sleeping so that helps!

In other news, we have just tried our a new class this morning, toddler gymnastics..... It was amazing!

Funny - 36 is not old at all! Don't worry at all, and hopefully we will all conceive in the next few months.
Better - toddler gymnastics sounds great fun! I want to take my DS swimming and get him learning young. It's nice to do together . Have you tried that? Will you be going again to toddler gymnastics?

mrsm generally you ovulate 14 days before your period. And I admire your attitude re: just keep dtd for a while and see what happens - I'm too much of a control freak to not use opks! That, plus my cycles are quite irregular, and DH and I would both find it very hard to keep up dtd eod for a whole month, so realistically I need to know at least roughly when I'm ovulating to stand a good chance.

I think I will poas before the weekend if AF doesn't seem imminent, so that if I get a BFN I can at least indulge in some nice wine with a clear conscience!

Funny I have similar concerns about a second! Although DD wasn't an easy baby, she certainly wasn't terrible. She cried a lot and always needed lots of attention, but her sleeping and eating have always been pretty good. At least she'll be starting school next year so I will only have the baby to do deal with during the day (if things work out the way we're hoping of course). I just turned 34 btw.

Mrs, I'm feeling ok actually. My right ovary is still aching (like the ache in early pregnancy where the corpus luteum is - in other words the side you ovulated from!) and I feel a bit pre-AFy, but mentally I'm fine.

I'm 37 in 4 weeks' time, so really want to crack on!

We've just come back from swimming. DD is starting to enjoy it now, which is good. It's taken a few weeks, but it is nice for her to do. :-)

My paid mat leave ends at the beginning of March. I'm not sure what I'll do really as I'm not allowed to go part time in my job and I have a 90 minute commute each way. That's why I was so keen to get pregnant ASAP to avoid the need to go back, but qualify for mat leave / ability to take all my annual leave instead! Never mind!

Mrs, I hope you fall soon and don't have to wait 7 months again. :-)

I checked in first thing this morning, but then had to rush off to take DD to playgroup, sorry for your bfn mrsm, I reckon it was probably your period making its (her?) appearance, which can only be a good thing! Now you will have some idea of where your cycles are at I suppose, and where your 2WW lies!
I am desperate for another baby, it feels like as soon as we started trying I became totally obsessed, but if I think back to only July, the thought of having another one seemed a long way away! So yes, I have definately gone mad with it! I was up half the night cleaning up sick from my little girls cot, hair, pyjamas, and there is still now an aroma of sick all over the house, , and I must admit after the third bedding change I wondered what the hell we were doing trying for another one!! She seems to be fine though, so whether it was just her milk sitting heavy, or her dinner disagreed with her?
Hungry I also feel like I'm putting pressure on myself, I really don't enjoy my job, but keep thinking I'll stick it out for now to get my mat leave, then I probably won't go back after another baby. But every month that I get a bfn is just another month to keep working.....
metalhead my little girl is/has been pretty easy too, so also for us it can only really go downhill! Hubbie and I are both younger children, and our parents say if they'd had us first they wouldn't have had anymore!!
Gymnastics does sound like fun! How old is you little one again Better? There is a local gymnastics class that I have been wondering about taking DD too, it must be great to get rid of all that excess energy!!
I have been getting cramps all day, and I really can't tell if it's because I'm due on, or another reason, what do people think? I am soo tempted to POAS but I only have to wait until Wed to know for sure.....

Lucy, I forgot the bit about hating my job! But yes, there is that to consider too.

I don't envy you the sick. DD isn't a sicky baby, thank goodness! I'm glad your DD seems ok today though.

Oooh lucyjojo I'd be so tempted to poas! It's so hard not to, isn't it? I guess it depends on whether you'd be annoyed at wasting a test if it was negative or not.

I too don't like my job (hence why I'm on here so often when I should be working!) but am hanging on for the mat benefits.

Been feeling quite crampy today, which would be consistent with implantation dates, just like the first cycle when I really thought I was pregnant until AF arrived... (though I'm actually still convinced we did fertilise an egg that month and it just failed to implant properly).

Evening all ,
Lucyjo - how is your DD tonight? I hate sick and anything to do with it. My DS had gastroenteritis September last year which was really scary. A good tip when cleaning bedding and clothes is to run a bath and put the clothes in and swish them about before putting them in the wash. It removes all the sick. Anyway I hope your DD is better .
Hungry, Metalhead and Lucyjojo - I too hate my job and was hoping to get pregnant ASAP and just work up until going on mat leave for the money and then not go back. Fingers crossed when we all finish for Xmas we will all be pregnant! It is sensible to hang on for the maternity benefits. Hopefully Hungry you won't have to go back at all .

So what happens at toddler gymnastics and how old do they need to be? My DS would love it so I might look into where does that near to us.

I'd love to be pregnant by Christmas. See if my body starts playing the game a bit better soon :-)

We've just signed up for more baby yoga, which is great. I was talking about gymnastics to DH the other day for when DD is older. Or maybe baby ballet. We shall see!

Evening all, sorry for your BFNs mrsm and hungry here's hoping you get your BFPs soon! Not much to report here at the moment but just thought I would see how everyone else is getting on.

Our class is 15months-4years. Its a fab set up. Not exceptionally structured, I was worried it would be very instructional and formal, as at the moment my 20 month olds favourite word is "no".....

Its in a big sports hall, lots of mats set up, a bouncy castle and lots of toys spread about. Then, amongst all of that theres mini gymnastic equipment scattered around (balance beams, parallel bars, springboards, trampolines, vlimbing frames etc) and the teacher does individual time with each child during thr lesson when they work towards theyre gymnastic badges. But mums can still take them on the equipment

Sorry on phone today!

Mums can still take them on the equipment without the instructor.

I was pleasantly surprised by it. As a SAHM, weve done lots of groups over the last year or so & this has been the best. My little girl is bored of the the standard playgroup set up really, but is still a touch young to do a very structured group I think, so this was perfect!

Good morning ladies, how is everyone doing? Well I have an update. You know I had that light bleed on Friday night, followed by only a tiny bit of blood Saturday when wiping and same Sunday. Well last night (sorry if TMI) while DTD with DH afterwards he went to the loo and came back and said that I must be bleeding. I checked and had blood round my legs etc and it can't have been from the sex as we weren't doing anything rough. Have continued to bleed through the night and still am this morning. It's not massively heavy but I defo believe this is my AF. So do we think if I need to record dates on the calendar , did my period start Friday or Monday? I think it was trying to come on Friday and then last night started properly. Since I went on the pill I don't recall having heavy periods. I did when I was young and at school but I think as you get older it can change. Will keep you updated throughout the day but I think I've got AF.
Hungry - has yours shown up yet?