The Elderberry Pavlovas who will graduate (thread 12)

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Roll up, roll up for the best discussions of ewcm, opk, ic and double dying you'll ever have. Probably.

The smallprint - Berries have a strict entrance criteria (TTC #1, over 30, TTC for 3+months, NO instadiffers, must have a special pot) and def no mention of baby dust or baby dancing UGH !!! Ooh we are strict...please note your house may be at risk if you do not keep up repayments lol

Morning berries

Well, I didn't get my bonk last night (tried my luck but no cigar!), but then the neighbours must have been going on holiday at 5am this morning and their little girl was squealing loudly as they left which woke us up, so we had a sleepy shag this morning. Not ideal because I didn't have time to try out my new lying-on-stomach-a-la-Bunny position because I had to get up, but at least there have been some swimmers sent in the right direction! To be honest, I think we're still too early by a long way but no harm getting the advance guard in place...

barking step away from Google! Speaking from personal experience and I've not even had booze so no excuse for oversharing I can't say I've found circumcision to be a particular problem in that way, so don't despair just yet. I wonder if it's a combination of everything - clomid, break from shagging, his op, you still being sore from last time and now anxiety that it's going to hurt. Can't give any advice other than lots of lube and taking it slowly, but do hope it improves!

Good luck with your funnel and hospital appt tally!

kitty hope you're not still upside down!

Right, off to work. Have a good Wednesday Berries xx

Thank you for sharing foody, I feel a bit better about it. I think you're right tally and kitty I definitely was still a little sore from the 1st night when we tried the 2nd time and last night there was no way I was trying again. It's the first clomid cycle though, 1st time in months I feel like there's actually a real chance of a bfp as Ov does seem to be on its way rather than waiting until the end of the cycle! This is really bad timing!!!
Will maybe have to aim for eod this week and then any extra would be a bonus. Lots of preseed before and during!!! And definitely warming him up so the amount of time he's inside me is reduced.
Went out for dinner last night with a group of friends. About 18 round the table and we somehow ended up sat next to pg friend who was actually due yesterday but hasn't popped yet, and husband of pg with twins friend. She wasn't actually there but husband was showing us photos of their double buggy on his phone. Marvellous.
Why can't ttc be simple? Want baby, have sex, get pg. What's really annoying is the number of people who seem to think it really is that simple for everyone just because they were lucky .

Cross posted as app kept not connecting. Thanks Boom I think you're right, it's all against us this week but it will get better!
merk glad you jumped on the flight thing before I went back to google - expecting my hard fought bfp this cycle but will then be flying back from America!

barking so sorry things are still so tender, hope it improves.

Hey merk how you doing?

Yay for the shag boom , so far we are on track but am worried it will all go wrong as we head into ov week.

Half day today, yay!

Good luck with the procedure Tally, keep us posted. I can't add anything to Barking's issues but think you're on the right track.

Out with mate and her 1 year old. She actually said 'I still think you need to just not stress about it, it will happen'. Thanks. I'll try that.

How did you not actually hit her Barking?
I think that women who have conceived with very little effort just don't understand. I heard someone complain the other day that it took ages to conceive their baby, she was ttcing for 6 months! Now I know that at the time its a long time but I felt like saying, just wait until its been 2.5 years, then we can have a conversation.

Just had similar conversation in ladies loos at work. A previous colleague had just been into the office with her new baby but I didn't get a chance to speak to her before she left. I then ran into another colleague in loos and asked how the new mum was doing as I hadn't had the chance to speak to her. After answering this she then asked "How was I doing?" which I knew was a loaded question so just said I was fine, then she proceeded to ask if I was trying? Even though I had rehearsed in my head a response that should have made her feel guilty for asking in the first place I just crumbled and said we were trying but it wasn't as easy as people think! I got the usual, "It will happen for you." Will it really! Having just changed a tampon it was just peachy timing! Having got AF on Sunday as entirely predicted I could have also had the op last week. Grrrr. Rant over.

Sorry to all those being affected with insensitive comments. A colleague said to me the other day "if you time it right and get pregnant early next year you'll mange to miss the Inspection". Yeah cos it's that easy!!
Hope all goes well at the hospital Tally. To be fair to my GP they gave me a giant bed pan type thing plus a pipette so I could get my sample in to the tiny test tube! Good job they didnt fall out of my bag on the way home or would have had some very strange looks!
How's things with you Pip?
Just awaiting AF here. She should be along just before bedtime
Sunny again here today so off to chill in the garden.

Hi all. Just popping in and still to read these bloody insensitive comments. Even when I got pg after 3 months the first time, I was still super sensitive that its not that easy for so many people.

I have had a horrible day. My thyroid levels have more than doubled and I've had to explain to yet another doctor what they should be and 'no, waiting a month just to see isn't actually ok'

FFS we should be paid more for doing our own job AND the doctors' too. Just hope this isn't going to cause any major problems

Thunder can you get a second opinion or even go private?

She's agreed I can up my dose. I then rang the midwife unit and managed not to sob. Lovely midwife says she'll sort me out with an early referral as I should get consultant care (usually from 12 weeks but I obviously made my case quite well)

Well FFS George? We had decided on George we when first started trying. They can't have that.

Think you should tell them Pip. That's just not on!

I'm back from hospital. it all went well but as far as they were going to tell me on the day, they found nothing. all normal. nothing to fix down there.

Why can no-one tell me anything? we're just going to have to try again and risk the sickness and mc all over again. I'm so frustrated!

Hello everyone. Apologies for being a non-poster. You're all far more interesting characters than me so I've been lurking and trying to follow your trials and tribulations.

Glad all went well Tally, though annoying to not have any answers/solutions. Did they just tell you to go and get on with it?

Boom (or at least I think it was Boom) we used the preseed applicators for about 4 cycles in a row with no luck. DH was not too keen on it. Said it felt really cold and watery. The month we changed to conceive plus was the month that I got my short lived BFP. Probably just a coincidence but DH preferred it to the preseed. I got it off Amazon in a box of prefilled applicators. Hadn't seen them before but handy as you don't have to guess how much you need. Just shove it in, squeeze and ready for action!

I'm currently waiting to get a positive on the opks. Cycle day 16 since mc so not quite sure when it might happen or if indeed it will actually happen this cycle. In the meantime 3 babies born on the day of the royal baby, a baby shower at work that I couldn't get out of, which was attended by a colleague on mat leave with her 3 week old and 2 pregnancy announcements in the last week have officially turned me into a bitter and miserable person.

Ps. What is sausage wanging?!?!

Oh barking I think I would have lunched her! Only one friend knows about us and I've had no daft comments thank goodness!
And Gil how clueless people are!

Oh thunder sorry to hear your GP is an arse. Can thyroid problems cause pg issues? (sorry so ignorant)

Oh pip that must be grrrrrr, I quite like Alexander so happy it's just a second name.

tally sorry you are still feeling frustrated with no answers, bug hugs!

marie bitter and miserable? Sounds like me!

Can't quite remember where it started but you tend to get whacked or wanged with a sausage if you are being silly! Or feeling too sorry for yourself etc...

Do NOT read the "Does anyone just have sex and get preggers?" thread. Naively thought it would be full of people like us but its more "my partner gave me come to bed eyes and I was instadiffed. Which is good because I wanted my baby at a particular time of the year"

Grrrrr will avoid that one thanks happy

Have you seen this shocking thread- www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/1805515-Im-ready-for-a-flaming-but-just-spent-the-last-few-hours-sobbing-and-I-need-to-talk?pg=1
Looks like our friend juicy has been naughty again

Oh dear Bunny. All her posts had been deleted by the time I'd got there plus the ones after she'd reinvented herself too! Anyone know how she is by the way? Wasn't she having a scan recently?

Oh dear indeed

Ohhhh I missed them too. Were they shocking? Has she been kicked off again now?

bunny yeah they can cause problems conceiving, miscarriage, low IQ in baby, premature labour...all sorts. Basically your body uses thyroxine for brain development and if you don't have enough then something's gotta give, hence my panic. And the fact I've had to fight since march with getting all the various GPs on side.

FFS tally that is so frustrating. After waiting all this time??? What's the next step then? Can you try again now?

pip they stole your name? Bloody rude.

Hi marie

Right marie now that you've outed yourself you're not allowed to lurk anymore! Sounds like you'll fit right in anyway! We're all bitter and twisted in here!

I missed them too! I assume she got kicked off again.

Oh Crikey thunder hope you find a good Doctor sometime!

So how is everyone?