The Elderberry Pavlovas who will graduate (thread 12)

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Roll up, roll up for the best discussions of ewcm, opk, ic and double dying you'll ever have. Probably.

The smallprint - Berries have a strict entrance criteria (TTC #1, over 30, TTC for 3+months, NO instadiffers, must have a special pot) and def no mention of baby dust or baby dancing UGH !!! Ooh we are strict...please note your house may be at risk if you do not keep up repayments lol

I appear to be out of the loop! Do I know who juicy is? That thread is mental....I think I'll stay here on our nice friendly berry thread, I can't take the MN aggro!

Happy I'll give that one a miss then!

Oh pip rubbish that they stole your name! My godson got given the name we'd picked out before the MC so I can sort of sympathise. Rude royals.

Hi Marie come on back in and get comfy. Sausage wanging is the traditional sport around here, stick around and I'm sure you'll experience it! Thanks for the info re: preseed/conceive plus, I might just get both and try them out!

Tally so sorry you've come away frustrated. Is that it then, no more investigations, they're just going to leave you to it without a plan for how they'll manage you when you get diffed?? Hoping I'm wrong it's so unfair for you x

Thunder at your thyroid levels. Glad you're getting in early with consultant though, hoping hard that everything stays ok xxx

And sympathy to all the berries who got stupid, insensitive comments recently. Barking I think we need to compile a Berry Book of Snarky Responses to stupid bloody comments, I never have one handy and always think of a good comeback hours later!

No fun news here. An animal (they're not owning up as to which) has wee'd on the sofa so I've had to strip it tonight, no idea what's prompted it as we never have housetraining issues normally! I'd say 'good practice for when I have kids' but positivity is on the wane tonight and I don't want to tempt fate.

Hi marie I will join your bitter and twisted party if I may - had to sign two 'congrats on your baby' cards this week and had to contribute to collection this after getting AF on day of RB mania ...grrr...

boodle what's macca powder and what benefits is it supposed to have?

bunny sorry about your name being stolen- how annoying! one of my close family members stole the name I wanted for their first born and i thought we had sort of agreed neither of us would use it too but I do love their little one so couldn't stay mad for too long.

Not my name stolen, think it was pips!

Spent the afternoon with my friend (the one who knows we are TTC) and her 6 month old, he is so cute! She mentioned that our friend is about to come off the pill soon, if she gets instadiffed I think I will die a little inside!

Oops sorry pip hope you don't mind being confused with bunny

Boom Juicy is a old friend of this thread also known as Viv/Gail/Mike ) and a few other aliases I've forgotten) Not sure if you were around when she was a regular poster but she did pop back several weeks ago to say she was upduffed - as a result of IVF in the Czech Republic I think.

I think that's it for the moment. the consultant at my last appointment pretty much said that. But I can wait 4-6 weeks for the appointment to hear that all is well from her mouth rather than the nurses. I'm thinking I might just go ahead and carry on trying next cycle (as it's shag week right now and I'm not entirely sure if I'm allowed this cycle).
Pip, my sil stole our name for our nephew. then Dh's cousin stole my next one. I'm trying not to think of any more right now as they could go to the next family instadiffer. grr.

Hello Marie, you're not allowed to relurk now .

Pip I wanted George as well! It was my grandad's name and I've always wanted to use it if I had a son. Now it'll be over used .

Tally when is your appointment? Have you got one soon to discuss the results?

Thunder hope you see someone nice very soon who actually listens and sorts you out.

TMI alert
I've just tried dtd again after a break yesterday. I was still a little sore and the preseed stung a little, which is not a usual reaction. I used loads though, applicator and covered the bits likely to feel the friction! Despite doing lots of 'preparation' it wasn't looking like a quickie once he got in and I had to ask him to stop and 'help himself out' until he was ready to finish as I just couldn't bear the thought of it carrying on much longer . He wasn't very happy afterwards . I tried to reassure him that I was still a little sore from Monday and it would get better. Lying in bed now though and it stings like crazy, really feel rubbed raw and not looking forward to the next time even if we leave it tomorrow. Predicting Ov on Saturday so was hoping to make a deposit on friday and saturday. How has it come to this?! It really feels horrible but I'm not prepared to stop dtd completely while it's shag week!!!! Already disappointed we're not going to manage every day even though I know I'm being silly and eod should be enough.

x post tally. If they've not found anything presumably they won't do anything? How annoying . Hopefully they will now pay close attention to you when you are next diffed. Is there any chance the appointment will be sooner than 4 weeks and come ahead of next shag week?

Barking, stupid question but have you been to the doc? It doesn't sound as tho its something that is going to get better on its own

merk after my initial panic I think it will get better, otherwise I would be on my way to the docs as embarrassment wouldn't stop me where ttc is concerned!!
I don't seem to be producing much, if any, cm myself this cycle, even during foreplay, so I can only put that down to the clomid. When I drenched myself in preseed last night it was definitely a lot better, I think most of the problem was still being tender from dtd sunday and monday. It's bit hurting now but after going to the toilet this morning I had to dab rather than wipe iyswim, as the skin is still tender to touch.
I don't think this shag week is going to get any better, but once I've had some time off (which I will next week regardless due to crazy travel plans) I think we'll be ok as long as we use loads of preseed while I'm on the clomid.

....it's bit not hurting now...

Morning!

Barking disregard this suggestion if you like, and it totally depends on how accommodating your other half is, but have you considered a pot and a syringe? I know it's not the romantic image we have of conceiving our children, but if you're struggling with dtd then it's an option which will give you a chance to recover without losing all hope of a bfp this month.

Anyway, just thought I'd throw it out there. I really hope it's just a case of not having a chance to heal and possibly the clomid effects. Have to say that this morning I struggled (still haven't bought lube) it was definitely a bit drier than usual!

Tally I don't blame you trying again (as far as I'm concerned you're a hero for waiting so long), but I hope they'd have you monitored from day dot! So hope your next BFP is different and you avoid the HG x

happy ah I remember the post, didn't know her when she was here though! Looks like she's been a naughty girl!

Bit late now so at all other berries x

Barking there's a good chance a doc trip could have you sorted Pdq. Honestly sounds more than just lack of lube to me (never thought that would be a sentence I would write )

barking get ye to the quacks my love! No harm in seeing if they can help! Nobody wants sore bits especially during shag week.

barking, that sounds painful. I definitely had something like that before, but I think the Clomid is making it worse. go e yourself time. eod sounds too much to me.

thanks boom. it's been hell knowing I'm not supposed to be trying, so I'm looking forward to getting back into the swing of things. I started reading a steamy novel today to remind me what things can be like - dh was starting to think I didn't like him any more because I was very reluctant. Now I'm not reluctant, and its shag week but even though there's pretty much no bleeding in not sure if we should dtd. Anyway, he's going to the woods tonight straight from work, so it won't happen today.

Barking Could it be a touch of thrush?
Another option could be to give him a BJ to get him started and provide a bit a lube.

puts on wise old berry hat One thing to remember about lube is that sperm friendly lubes will only raise your chances of conceiving as compared to normal lube. It is not an aid to conception in itself. Just like Special K will only help you get thinner if you stop eating chips, just eating it isn't going to help you get thinner. If you have a problem that is preventing you conceiving then no amount of special lube is going to help.

I didn't realise that Gail had got updiffed. Good for her!

Bunny & Merk Don't want to pester the doc unless it's still a problem after we've had a few days break post shag week. Last night was a huge improvement on Sunday/Monday and I think I'll be ok once I'm all recovered and we make sure we use plenty of preseed when trying again. I think it was the combination of me being much, much dryer than usual (presumably due to the Clomid) plus the new lack of foreskin and the fact that we've had at least 6 weeks! of no dtd while DP recovered from the op.

Boom I wouldn't be adverse to suggesting that if necessary!!

Pip I don't think it's thrush - I thought that involved itchiness and discharge, neither of which I have? I don't really understand your point about lube unless it's not necessarily directed at me?! I use lube as I don't always feel like dtd every day for more than a week and it replaces what nature would provide if I were feeling more up for it, especially when we've got 10 minutes to quickly dtd before we leave the house! Since realising the Clomid appears to be preventing all natural provision I'm using more and more of it!! My current problem preventing conception is friction, and preseed is helping that problem greatly!

Spent all day in my new classroom swearing at the teacher who left it in this state. Most of us are changing year groups which means changing classrooms. I've spent hours just clearing stuff out of cupboards that shouldn't have been left there anyway!!! Only managed 1 display, got part way through a second, and have at least 4 more to do....

Off for a fell race tonight though

Barking the point about lube was in general, not pointed at you at all.
I bought some when we were TTCing before we started IVF and we never used any before. It was more of a cautionary tale to not get sucked in to thinking that all these products will get you updiffed.
I understand that you need it.

But the reviews on Amazon assured me that I'd get diffed straight away with preseed!!! and over a year later I'm still using it

Hi berries. Still on never ending kiddie-centric holiday and have gotten a BFN for our cycle 13. Feeling pretty low about it all really and being surrounded by 4 million happy families on holiday isn't helping. Pregnant lady decided to sit near me at the pool today made worse by the lady who sat on my other side, who was Irish Earth Mother with two adorable under 3s to match. It would almost be funny if it weren't so fucking painful.

Haha! I use the lube due to my own lack of 'natural juices'! Think the business would be impossible otherwise! Barking I hope your soreness is all better soon!
Thunder sorry if I'm being dumb, but how did you find out you had thyroid problems?
Regarding my self diagnosis of low progesterone, I'm wondering whether to just wait and try a bit longer or whether to go to gp now? I've read online that they don't do progesterone testing on NHS. Anyone any experience of this?
... Told a colleague about my recent mc. She herself had a baby in May. She proceeded to tell me that 'everything happens for a reason' and then showed me numerous pictures of her baby off her phone. Grrrrr. She was one of these 'i don't think I'll get a Glastonbury ticket for 2013 as I want a baby by then' instadiffers. Grrr some more.

Sorry Sidney for the cross post. That sucks. Tis the season for children filled holidays.

Me again! Just got a smiley on the digital ovulation stick 17 days after start of miscarriage! I'm excited as thought it wouldn't happen or at least be very delayed this month! Better go shave my legs in anticipation of husbands arrival home from work. He's working late today so he better get back here soon! Conceive plus at the ready!

Oh dear sid and marie grrrrrrrrrrr

How is everyone this eve?

Break a leg marie