TTC 10+ months part 16

[Buzzybee123]

New thread for the lovely 10+ers.

Mad - that's great news, that = pregnant. Woohoo!

Den - I am not surprised you just want to get going now. Not long now. Sorry about your friend that sounds very stressful.

Pout - Fri 13th transfer , that has only got to be good luck. It has to be!

mrsd we have appointments both with our existing and our potential new clinic next month when I am back from work travels, so we will see what they advise re: further testing.

joy how are you doing?

mad that sounds like a nice healthy number. :)

Pout If only, think small Victorian terrace, but with lots of cutlery?no big candelabras or anything?.. and plastic handled cutlery is the norm but we were given massive set of cutlery as a wedding present, (lovely in laws) which the dishwasher turns yellow and I always feel bad about and for the first time in three years have done something about! The kitchen did look a bit upstairs downstairs though with it all out and me in a pinny like the butler from Downton. It is incredibly cathartic, I have no creative streak so am in awe at all the crafting that all the ladies on the thread get up to, this is my version I guess?! Friday 13th is lucky in lots of other countries, just pretend to be Italian for the day.

Mad This is fantastic news. Here?s to an uneventful 9 months please!

Den That must be incredibly hard for your friends, a long 20 weeks indeed.

Euro - I am doing ok thanks although I am incredibly bad tempered and i cant remember if that Is a symptom of stimms or whether I am just bad tempered today! . I've now just read that a German 'man' has given birth using donor sperm. What I can't comprehend is that when you change sex, you have to take a huge amount of hormones. They keep their reproductive organs but surely hormones must damage them.

Cos - how are you doing?

I also don't understand how the hormones haven't had some sort of lasting effect joy. I still feel like my few days of stimms are still mucking up my cycle.

I just read that the woman from the 16 kids programme is now pregnant with no. 17. I only want one, come on fertility gods do your work over here.

mrsd I'm really pleased that you feel more positive about the next round. We both had pretty disappointing first experiences and I am sure that your eggs will be given the time they need so that you can make some more embryos and have a better chance this time around. I can't imagine how stressful this pregnancy must be for your friends .

pout Friday the 13th. You couldn't make this stuff up . It will be lucky for you. I am sure of it xx

joy crabbiness is to be expected and perfectly allowed.

MrM is home. Must run or be in big trouble for prioritising an ipad over him!!

Mad great news about the blood test. My clinic doesn't do them, and don't scan till after week 8 actually.

Joy not surprised at the bad tempered ness. You're an exerciser aren't you, what's your plan regarding exercise during Ivf do you keep doing or change it? And anyone else for that matter? Just interested.

Bella Pout! I like the idea of you being Italian for the day to get the good luck vibes! Loving the remote control induced pride.

Waves and cheers for everyone else.

Oh and for the record as I know we've had conversations before about this - at this moment in time I couldn't give a cheese straw for this being Ivf induced as compared to 'natural'. Besides ET was at least 12 years ago now (as 2 ww days are like dog years aren't they)

Joy about your near miss, drugs totally feck you over so you are allowed to feel that way

mrsd I know your friend from another thread, she also had very low AMH so just goes to show that low AMH doesn't mean the end of the road, glad you feeling more upbeat

cos will you have a scan earlier or wait till 8 weeks, at your dog years, yes it does feel like that

pout I have climbed off the ledge for now but never stray too far from it, not long till you and Colin are reunited

ten I too had images of an upstairs/downstairs scene in my head :)

Fail link but vaguely interesting re: the compatibility issue we were talking about a page or two ago:

www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2415985/Love-SNIFF-Women-tell-man-shares-compatible-genes-reading-scent.html

I've long thought there might be something in this. Mr euro is very much a head choice. He's my best friend and the perfect person to live with but his smell doesn't drive me wild. I went out with a couple of men when I was younger who I would just drink in the smell of. Unfortunately they were both utter twats. I do wonder if they might have managed to knock me up though!

cos at dog years. That's so true.

cos and mad can you remind us of your "journeys"? I have a terrible memory.

Euro
Your fail link is uncanny.
MrSea is also a head choice for me. I love him and he is a great husband and best friend but he doesn't smell of anything to me. I had 2 exes that I used to drink up their smells. Unfortunately both were unreliable types - one committed suicide and the other is 41 and currently dating a 22 year old. The thought of these men being the ones that could have knocked me up is just too scary!

And Pout. Where I'm from 13 is v lucky indeed. It actually translates into something similar to definite life! I have a really good feeling about this one for you.

at taking work to a tribunal for messing up my menkulling schedule. If only!

Friday 13th sounds hugely lucky to me, pout!

Cos (and mad) I hope the next 9 months positively flies by, totally uneventfully.

I'm interested in the exercising question, too. I've thought that I've scuppered my chances a couple months by exercising hard in the run up to my period. You know, vaguely feeling pregnant, go for a long run, stop feeling pregnant/get spotting. So I'm currently sticking to gentle yoga/walks, and maybe I'll stretch to a swim. (Cause I do go barmy after a bit if I don't do something.) Curious to know others' thoughts/experiences as well.

And there is totally something in that smell compatability thing, euro. Ditto with Mr Rum having been a best friend, vs an ex (of sorts - it was mostly about the shagging) who was a twat but OMG phwoar I could sniff him all day.

Here's hoping it rains a bit less today. Although Mr Rum did have the funniest story yesterday about his trip to jizz in a pot involving getting soaked in his cycling lycra on his way there. Apparently he got a lot of funny looks! And then had to hang about, practically naked, in the unlovely sample room, waiting to, uh, detumesce before he could put his lycra back on, so he didn't scare the rest of the clinic waiting room! Not sure he thought that one through!

Those were a lot of exclamation marks for so early in the morning.

Euro - how funny I was discussing this very article last night with Roy because He told me I stank! But it was because I had eaten garlic!! Anyway one of the first things I noticed about Roy when I met him was his smell. I loved it and I still do (excluding halitosis days). I'm not sure he digs mine , well he certainly didn't last night. I must ask again whether he likes my smell or does it just relate to women' smell of men?

Rum/cos - I try to walk in to work every day . I don't Zumba or tennis now, too scared of jiggling my precious follicles. I didn't even do my 3.5 mike daily walk when I was pregnant as I was too scared. But that was a bad mistake. I think gentle exercise is the key.

How are our newly preggos today? mad that is excellent news on your blood test

cos at the dog years comment

euro that article made me worry a bit. I regularly say that MrP smells funny, I certainly don't drink in his smell. Having said that I don't remember feeling like that about any of my exes either.

rum That mental image of MrRum is making me cringe for him!
What is this exercise word you keep mentioning? Seriously though I have often wondered whether lugging my stupidly heavy hoover up & down the stairs is a good idea during the 2ww. My logical head says not to be so silly and that ladies in times gone by did very physically punishing jobs and still had babies but I do wonder...

sea any news on your results? Think I asked that yesterday and it must seem like I am badgering you I agree on the scariness of having a baby with past boyfriends.
BTW thank you so much for what you said about the number 13 where you are from. That gave me a real lift as did everyone else who pointed out that Friday the 13th is a lucky day in other countries.

mrsd I can't imagine what a stressful time your friend must be having right now and wish her all the best.
It is lovely that you are so enthusiastic about another go at IVF.

Buzzy I did smile at the thought of you climbing down off the ledge.

joy How are you today, less crabby? I'm sure it is the drugs messing with your mood that along with a big dollop of stress no doubt.

I am trying to buy a baby play pen...I kid you not. Oh the irony. Big Dog has to have a major op on his knee and will need to be pretty much immobile for 12 weeks. We are hoping to make it into a den for him that will also keep him confined and not bouncing off the walls at every sound from outside. I am not looking forward to the next couple of months at all.

Yes Sea good luck with your results.

Pout - poor big dog . And a baby play pen you say- Colin can use it after big dog. Positive thoughts! How are you feeling about Fri?
Oh and am in an absolute bait again today. A lazy git in my office is getting me to do his work and I don't work for him plus he is younger. He could bloody do it himself if he could be bothered to get off Facebook and YouTube. This is what set me off yesterday and I stewed all night. I am stewing again today about it but don't have the balls to tell him to big off.
It must be the drugs or perhaps the 4.55am starts for my cetrotide injection are making me super crabby! Normally I am quite placid.

Pout - Sorry about big dog. I had to ice my dogs leg once 15 minutes on, 15 minutes off for 1 week while keeping her immobilized. Best of luck!

Rum and Cosmos - I don't think gentle exercise will hurt you. I usually stick to gardening, yoga, biking and low impact aerobics. At least 30 minutes of any of these are recommended here daily when diffed, as is walking.

sea - I agree about smell and the idea that I could have been knocked up easier by an ex is really terrifying to me. Best of luck on Friday.

Joy - I hope the crabbiness subsides. Does your workplace monitor computer use? I know some people who have been fired for that kind of facebook and youtube behaviour.

Waves to anyone I've missed.

Aw poor big dog pout. I hope it goes ok.

Joy, how long do you have to take cetrotide for? That's the drug the clinics think I reacted strangely to.

Euro, I know some people who work on the sniffing genes thing. The daily mail article is a massiver over simplification. The guardian article they've stolen it from is a bit better guardian one way to guess how compatible your genes are is to think of the distance between the place your grandparents and your partners grandparents were born. The same village and you might have problems, different continents and its looking good. Again, a massive simplification thing but it gives you the gist.
I have always loved mrdens smell. I can tell of he's tired or sick by the way his smell changes.

Buzz, do you mean my friend who lost the baby? I'd be very surprised if its the same person as on another thread because English isn't her first language and I'm pretty sure she wouldn't be on mumsnet.

Joy just think of all the extra work you can palm off on him when you're swanning around as a fat preggo or off on mat leave!

Interesting discussions about the smells of partners! DH's smell is on a par with cotton - lovely and could last a lifetime without going off it, but not knock you off your feet exotic.

Rum at the gizz story.

Euro, my journey so to speak went a bit like this:
Yr 1 came off pill, took nearly year for periods to settle down, had lots of bleeding between periods from the start
Yr2-3 had all blood tests done and SA all normal. Referred to gyne unit due to bleeding between periods. Had scan, internal and hysterospinogram (the blue dye one) - on the day of this the guy said 1 blocked tube, but by follow up session the next guy said both were fine. Had blood test for polycystic ovaries but normal. End of year 3 had lap for suspected endo but again all fine. Was told several times that I have bad erosion on my cervix and the bleeding could be that. Tried 2 months of clomid at some point here but that just made bleeding worse and felt all wrong so stopped taking it.
Yr4 first round of Ivf: needed extra drugs but they got 9 eggs, 6 fertilised, 6 went to blasto, 1 put back 5 frozen. Grades varied but ok to freeze. Bfn
Then tried a Chinese medicine approach of acu, diet changes, herbs, etc for about 6 months.
Yr5-6 had FET round, 2 put back, got low hcg reading in blood test of 15, then bfn.
Did Mr S's superov programme for 4 months, he diagnosed v high nk cells (5. something), with pred. Also diagnosed with low antral follicle count and low amh. Sent period to Athens. Lots of anti b's. Followed Joy to dr in Harley street. (Joy am giggling)
Ivf fresh round 2 got 8 eggs, 7 fertilised, 4 made it to blasto, put 2 back and 1 ok for freezing. Did Mr S immune programme alongside. Bfn.
Went gluten free oct 12. Switched to organic personal and home produce, switched from pregnacare to food based natural supplements (wild nutrition). Moved house to massively reduce mortgage, reduced hours at work. Had endometrial scratch month before FET round.
FET round using 2 frozen from 1st cycle, with Mr S immune programme plus extra progesterone injections, bfp. And breath.

Given I've always bled around ovulation, I'm interested that I've got the closest in the 2 FET rounds when my ovaries were out of action. I tested normal for polycystic ovaries but I do get acne, blood sugar sensitivities etc. The other thing is that I've often felt tugging / tearing / grating sensations during 2 ww's. this one as soon as I had the extra progesterone it all felt very soft and warm. After the scratch I had some light bleeding for a few days and imagined some nasties leaving. Err, think that was it.

Cos & Mad – How are our newly preggos’ feeling? Has it sunk in yet? I hope you are both doing well and taking it easy. Any symptoms yet?

Cos – Your TTC story is inspiring… Your BFP is so so so well deserved. I feel tearful that you finally got there. Prove it is just a numbers game and a lot of dedication. I really hope your pregnancy is enjoyable and totally uneventful. BTW, Who is Mr S? Feel like I should know but don’t..

Rum – I had a good giggle at MrRum’s adventures at the clinic… I can image the scene. Too funny. I am interested in the exercise question too… I haven’t done ivf yet but during my 2IUIs and 4 yrs of TTC I have pretty much always exercised – yoga, pilates and running. I am running 5k every other day at the moment (more like jogging as I am v slow). I think I will stop the running once I actually do IVF but continue with the other activities, as I believe light exercise is good. Chinese doc always says it’s good to get blood flow to wombie area etc.

Pout – Not badgering at all. I am actually watching my phone as I know results are back but they are waiting for the doc to call me…. Grrrr… Argy is not great on communication I find… Understandably they priorities ladies who are actually doing the IVF cycle… Yes – number 13 is v lucky where I am from… I think that is a good omen for you and Colin. So sorry to hear about big dog (or wolf!!). As Joy says, Colin can make good use of it after big dog.

Joy – So sorry to hear about annoying colleague. There’s always one isn’t there. You ask them to do something and they tell you how busy they are but you can see that they are on FB all day long. Grrrrr. It’s natural to feel the way you do with all the drugs and early mornings. I forgot to ask… will you be going to Ana during stimms and after ET? I hope the daily bloods and scans are going okay and it’s not too stressful juggling it with work.

MrsD – Unsurprising that the daily fail over-simplify everything!!!

Just got my results back. Not good news I am afraid. Cytokines went up to 47 (from 38). Now I have to decide if I should go on another course of Humira (as per their advice) or to intralipids. Either way... looking unlikely I will be cycling this autumn.

Oh sea I'm sorry. I nknow nothing about the immunes stuff so can't advise on that. I do have experience of having to wait and wait and then have hopes dashed when you think you're finally getting somewhere. It's truly heart and bone crushing. Massive hugs, you will get there.

Joy I can guarantee I will be grumpy, given my urge to punch people in the back of the head sometimes for walking too slowly when I have PMT, I am considering hiding away as much as possible when we start cycling.

Cos Wow what a journey, you deserve this so much for everything yoi have been through. will you be waiting until week 8 for a scan? I am not entirely sure what's normal procedure, but I imagine I would be willing the next few weeks away in your position! Twws are indeed like dog years, although this then make it seem that i have been ttc for at least 14 years (depressing thought). Any symptoms yet? Oh and Mad any sudden onset of symptoms today?

Euro interesting chat about comparability. MrTen is also a head choice (had my fill of dramatic all encompassing exes), god life would have been terrible if I had married/ got knocked up by my ex, makes me feel a bit sick thinking about it.

Rumi As far as exercise goes, I have to do some, or I will go mad, but I am going to lay off the massively strenuous mad stuff that I love during cycling (when I get there) and just take it a bit easier, more Pilates less bootcamp. Poor mrR, did make me smile though!

Pout Well as others have said you can keep it for future use, even if it is still to keep big dog in while mini pout is crawling....! Poor big dog, I always feel so sorry that you can't explain to pets what is happening, they just give you big sad eyes.

Sea I'm sorry that must be incredibly frustrating.

Ladies I have a question, how many of you have gone gluten free whilst ttc? Do you think it is a good idea? Sorry totally random but it is something I keep coming back to.

Waves to everyone I have missed

sea So sorry to hear that, big hugs

mrsd thats a bizzare coincidence as there is a lady with the same sad story on another thread

pout when is big dogs op booked for ?? The ledge is scary at times

joy how are you feeling

rum at your jizz story