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hopefulgum · 05/07/2013 11:54

Starting the new thread for you wonderful ladies before I fly off into the sunset.

May this thread bring us the happy news we've all been waiting for. Grin

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mumalah · 04/08/2013 19:17

Hi everyone, haven't posted for ages but i still catch up everyday!
Jbrd So sorry to hear your sad news, take care of yourselfxxx
While im on here i will update
No action taking place here, have had bleeding from cd11, now on cd 22 and frankly fed up! This has not happened before so i have no idea whats going on. Maybe it is menopause? Any advice gratefully received.

Irishmammybread · 04/08/2013 20:30

JBrd I'm so sorry to hear your news, it's so incredibly sad , I know how devastated you must feel.
I really hoped this time it would work out for you.
Thinking of you xxx

hopefulgum · 04/08/2013 23:03

Oh Jbrd, I am so sorry. Of course you are devastated. How utterly terrible to have your hopes dashed like that.((hugs))

Welcome Tigerseyemum. I hope the lap and dye helps.Could you ask your consultant to remove some of the endo? I can understand your reluctance to get pregnant if you are in pain.

Isabeller, the adapted 5:2 sounds very sensible for a pregnant woman.

Today is my third fast day, and I am glad because I have been a bit lazy with my eating - I am usually pretty good about eating healthy food, but in a way, the fasting diet has made me feel more relaxed about it and I have been eating sweets and cakes etc, which I don't usually do. So I need to sort that out. Otherwise the fast days are a bit of a waste of time.

I am 9 dpo today and I did a first response test. I know it is very early, but in the past....anyway, it was clearly negative, and although I have my usual pregnancy symptoms, I am starting to believe they are my usual PMS symptoms because they happen so often. I truly believe that we may be catching the egg often, but the quality is bad,so they don't implant. I could be wrong, but I distinctly remember the pregnancy symptoms from my 9 pregnancies (5 THB's) and I often have those same symptoms.

It is sad that I can no longer trust my body to give me the right signals, but that's just something I need to come to terms with. I get disappointed every time, but I prefer this to having a bfp and miscarrying, that is much, much harder.

mumalah, perhaps you should get that bleeding checked out? It is possible to have a period start on day 11, but it shouldn't last longer that normal. The menopause, or at least perimenopause, will cause heavier periods, but that is usually due to longer periods of time between periods, so the lining builds up for longer. Of course with the perimenopause,anything is possibleConfused

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notsoold · 05/08/2013 03:53

Jbrd....so sorry for you!!! I really hope that in Rl people are giving you hugs and support!!!
Xxxx

TigerseyeMum · 05/08/2013 12:42

Jbrd so sorry about your news. Will you be offered any support, counselling? X

Morien · 05/08/2013 12:47

jbrd I'm so, so sorry. I wish I could say something that would help, but we all know that's impossible. I hope you're getting lots of RL support.

We got married on Saturday - had a lovely day. Civil ceremony at our local town hall, followed by lunch for family on our terrace at home - we got caterers in so we didn't need to do anything. Later on friends joined us for a fantastic buffet from the same caterers (which we're still eating!), and it was exactly the relaxed, friendly affair that we wanted...except for the dash to A&E at 9.30pm with DSS(4) screaming in agony after a fall on the trampoline Confused Fortunately one of the wedding guests is a doctor at the hospital and she pulled some strings to get us seen quickly - so we were back at the party by 11.30pm, with DSS's leg in plaster.

My mum & stepdad, sister & BIL & their DD(2) were here for a few days, all staying with us, but they left this morning - and shortly afterwards DH took DSCs to their mum's for the week, so feeling a bit empty now... We're not planning a honeymoon as such but we're thinking we might go somewhere for a night or 2 this week while I'm still on leave, to stop this feeling of 'that's it, it's all over'.

CaliBee · 05/08/2013 20:52

Oh jbrd I'm so very sorry. You must be devstated. Big hug for you xx

Congrats morien it sounds like a wondeful day...similar to my wedding in June. Have to say it seems like forever ago now.

On a positive note....less than 2 weeks until he is home. Yeeehaaaa.
Another 6lbs off this morning, making a grand total of 2st 8lbs. Feeling gooood!

mozzarellamummy · 05/08/2013 21:00

jbrd I have no words either .. Just sending you hugs..I'm really sorry..
morien your wedding sounded lovely..congratulations Flowers

Irishmammybread · 05/08/2013 21:07

Congratulations Morien ! What was your dress like?
Sounds like you had a lovely day, apart from the trip to A&E. Glad it was all sorted out so quickly,what exactly did your DSS break?
When we were in children's A&E earlier in the year they had a large display on the wall in the waitingroom documenting all the risks of trampolining and listing the number of injuries they had seen over the previous 12 mths as a result. The girls have a trampoline at Grandma's so it's made me much more wary letting them on it!
Hope you have a lovely few days away together this week, it's not all over, it's the start of a wonderful future married life together!

Gum sorry about your BFN, but 9dpo is early...
It is cruel though how our bodies can deceive us with similar symptoms leading up to AF as in early pregnancy, it's just a waiting game.

Welcome Tigerseye !

Mumalah as gum says it's probably worth seeing your doctor about the bleeding?

JBrd thinking of you today xxx

Irishmammybread · 05/08/2013 21:12

CaliBee that's impressive weight loss, hope your DH recognises you when he gets back! You must be looking forward so much to seeing him again, hope the reunion makes up for the long period of absence ! When do you make the move to NI?

hopefulgum · 05/08/2013 23:16

Good Morning Ladies.

Thanks Thanks Congratulations Morien!ThanksThanks Your wedding sounded wonderful. Sorry about the broken leg, what a drama! We have had a trampoline for over twenty years and five kids, and it seems like all our friends have had kids with a breakage due to the tramp, but not in this family, not a single injury (touch wood).

Wow, Calibee, your weightloss is amazing. Well done you. I checked out the Cambridge diet, but I just couldn't do the shake(drink) thing. I think I would probably cheat on a diet like that because my brain would insist I had only had a drink and would want to chew something!Hmm

I did another fast day yesterday and found it quite hard as I felt a bit sick when I got overly hungry, so I actually had more than 500 cals, but it was still low. My immediate thought was it might be because I am pregnant (I remember that feeling from the first trimester). I was also so tired in the afternoon, and eventually went to sleep at about 7:30, that made me think, maybe I am pregnant? But this morning my temperature has dropped a bit, so I haven't bothered with a test. I have a feeling this month is a bust too.

I continue to have a little hope, but realistically I know if I happen to get pregnant it will be a miracle. Still, why shouldn't I have a miracle?

And then of course, that is just the first of many hurdles for a 40+ mum.

Despite all that, I still want a THB. If I had a supportive partner I would definitely go for egg donation and ivf, but in my case it has to be all natural.

Have a good day everyone.

Sending a whole lot of love your way Jbrd.Bear

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sparklysapphire · 05/08/2013 23:19

JBrd, I'm very very sorry, I hope you are getting lots of RL support. I know it's early days, but is there any chance of any investigation now you've had 3 consecutive m/cs? Sending you hugs.

Morien congratulations on your wedding, it sounds like it was exactly what you wanted (apart from the hospital visit, obviously).

Wow, Calibee, well done on the weight loss! I hope the next couple of weeks fly by for you and you have a lovely reunion with your DH.

Hopeful, I hope your DS is feeling a bit better.

Irish, nice to see you.

Hi to everyone. I'm doing ok, much better now it's less hot!

Morien · 06/08/2013 08:55

Yay, calibee! I always think that whenever it gets to under 2 weeks, whatever it is you're waiting for is practically here.

Irish I had no idea about the dangers of trampolining, but since Saturday several people have made similar comments to yours. Shame, as it's the best thing we've ever bought for them - all 3 of them love it and play on it together for hours. They're almost 9, almost 5 and just 3, so it's hard to find things that all of them will do. Anyway, even DSS is not deterred - the day after his accident he said, 'Morien, can I go on the trampoline? I promise I'll only jump on one leg' Grin Fortunately there's no way he can climb up on to it with his plaster, or else I'm sure he'd have been there.

He didn't actually break anything, luckily. I wonder if it's what we call a greenstick fracture in English - an adult would have broken the bone, but not a child, apparently, because it's a place just below the knee where a child's bone isn't yet formed properly. He goes back to the hospital in a week and they hope to be able to remove the cast then. It could have been much worse!

I didn't wear a wedding dress; I wore a knee-length, sleeveless Ted Baker shift dress, navy blue with a dark gold brocade pattern underlaid. You can hardly see the gold close up but it's really visible on photographs and looks much nicer than I've made it sound!

Sorry, this is a very me post, but I'm just answering your questions!

Irishmammybread · 06/08/2013 10:34

Morien your dress sounds lovely and I'm sure is something you can wear again.
Glad the fracture wasn't too serious, children seem to heal very quickly at that age. He musn't have been in too much pain if he wanted to go back on the trampoline again so soon, I can just imagine him trying to jump on one leg!
My DDs still go on their trampoline,I just warn them to be careful, but you can't keep them in bubblewrap,they still need to have some freedom and fun!

Hi sparkly ,you've not got much longer to go now ,have you?!

JBrd · 06/08/2013 13:13

Thank you all for your kind words, I really appreciate it.

After having a bit of a meltdown in the EPU on Sunday, I'm now feeling numb and dazed, like walking through cotton wool. Feeling lost and disorientated.

You invest so must emotionally into a pregnancy, regardless of how early on it is... All the plans I've been making (you know, the 'I'll be that far along when this happens/I'll stop working in XXX/what holidays can or can't I do before the EDD' etc) have now gone down the drain again, and I cannot muster any strength or motivation to re-adjust them at the moment.

My boss has been great - I told her the news yesterday, and I more or less now have carte blanche at work. Which is good to know, in case I have to drop out at short notice. But right now, being at work is the only thing that seems real, I can just work my way down the to-do list and tick things off.

No idea how long this will all last. I'm not bleeding, in fact, I have no physical issues at all at the moment. Just hope that it won't be such a long and drawn out affair like with my first mc...

sparklysapphire · 06/08/2013 23:18

JBrd, I hope things resolve quickly now, and it must be a relief that your boss is so understanding.

Irish, I'm 37 weeks today so officially full term I think. But I'm expecting to go overdue again - or as overdue as they'll let me, so if LO decides to arrive early, I'm going to get quite a shock even though I know it's a possibility.

Irishmammybread · 06/08/2013 23:22

JBrd I know exactly what you mean about that numb feeling when you have a MMC, it's like suspended reality,you really feel in limbo.
Even early in a pregnancy you can't help making plans, I think from the moment you get that BFP you start bonding so it's heart breaking to suffer a loss,at any stage. It's difficult to even grieve and start to come to terms with it while waiting to miscarry, it's like everything's on hold.
I admire you for keeping going at work, it's good you have an understanding boss.
Are you booked to go back for another scan if you don't start naturally?
When I found out at 10 weeks the baby had died the previous week I opted to see if I would miscarry naturally and was booked for a rescan to reassess 2 weeks later. The day of the scan I started to bleed heavily though when I was scanned the sac was still there,it was another 2-3 days before this passed. I suppose it's hard to predict when you might start bleeding. I hope the physical side resolves soon for you and you have the time,space and support to heal and come to terms with the emotional fallout xxx

Irishmammybread · 06/08/2013 23:27

sparkly hope the next few weeks pass quickly for you and LO doesn't keep you waiting too long. Is your bag packed now just in case?!

hopefulgum · 07/08/2013 00:04

Jbrd, I know exactly what you mean about making plans. Even if you have had previous miscarriages it is normal and natural to plan. We do try to protect ourselves don't we, but we cannot help but love our babies as soon as we know that we are pregnant.

I am glad you are able to work. As you say, it is straight forward and gives you something to focus on. I hope things resolve quickly for you as I know how difficult it can be when it takes a long time.

Sparkly, how exciting that it is nearly birth time. By this stage I'll bet you are ready for your baby to come? How has your DH been? Has he gotten better at accepting the baby?

11 DPO today and another BFN. Oh well...no point in kidding myself that there's still time for a bfp. I just know if I don't have a hint of a line by now then there won't be a line. I am sick of my body leading me astray with very sore boobs, feelings of nausea here and there, extreme tiredness and extreme intolerance. Can't I just have a 2ww that has no symptoms at all so that I can be hopeless instead of hopeful ??? Hmm

My days of ttc are numbered. It's been a long time - 4 years- and I think I will stop all things ttc on my 47th birthday. That's only about three cycles awaySad

It is difficult to let go of such a huge dream, but little by little, I think I am.

Well, another busy day ahead. Work, staff meeting after school,netball training and swimming laps...I'll be asleep on the couch at 7pm again tonight Shock

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TigerseyeMum · 07/08/2013 14:56

Lots of sadness around today :-( Ttc can be such an emotional roller coaster.

I'm due on 2 days ago and it drives me crazy because my AF symptoms are identical to pregnancy symptoms!!! Massively sore boobs (they wake me up when I roll over!), extremely tired, sore belly, generally grumpy. I have to try not to think about it otherwise I'll start picking out baby names and browsing Brora kids clothes!

Back to work, must stop daydreaming...

sparklysapphire · 08/08/2013 11:11

Irish, no I haven't packed my bag! I know I should have, but I haven't even got everything I need for me, though I think I have for the baby. Something for later this week I think.

Gum, sorry it's not your month again. Sadly DH has not come round, we're in the process of having a big sort out, and he said something really mean to me yesterday, which is very unusual. I promptly started crying, much to DDs consternation, she was very sweet though. I'm scared if I think about it, so trying not to as I'd be a wreck, but I'm very much hoping he'll soften when LO is here.

Tigerseye, good luck!

JBrd, how are you doing? I hope you're being looked after in whatever ways you need.

hopefulgum · 08/08/2013 11:55

Hi all.

Sparkly, I am sorry DH still hasn't come round. I do hope when the LO is here he'll feel differently.

I am definitely not pregnant, AF turned up today - actually at 12 DPO, which means my luteal phase has shortened. It may be because since my holiday I have completely stopped taking supplements. No multi vitamins, coq10,folic acid,aspirin or vit B. Maybe it has made a difference. I don't know. I think I may start taking the sups again. I keep reading about how great COq10 is for egg quality, so I will start taking it again.It's incredibly expensive, but I guess it is worth if it helps, and it will only be for a few more months.

I had acupuncture today and according to my pulses my energies are good (I feel flippin tired though, especially as I fasted again today). She asked if I still want a baby. I told her yes, and she said she felt I was becoming more accepting that it may not happen than I was a couple of years ago. I suppose she's right. However, I still do want one last baby. She thinks I have enough on my plate, but she cannot say that it will or won't happen. However, she says, from what she can see, I am in very good health, better than ever (according to her way of thinking in Chinese medicine), so that's a good thing I suppose.

Sorry, I'm rambling. Feeling very,very hungry and just waiting for my fish to finish baking.

News anyone?

When will you test Tigerseye??

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diege · 08/08/2013 23:02

Evening! Just a quickie from me. Back from hospital after being hit in bump with tennis ball at a children's play camp in town. All seems fine after monitoring, but have to go in again tomorrow to get anti-D injection just to be safe. Was monitored on labour ward which was hell on earth - emergencies everywhere and ward eventually closed for admissions as no room left at the inn. Just glad I wasn't in labour! Catch up properly tomorrow xxx

TigerseyeMum · 08/08/2013 23:11

That sounds hellish, diege!!!

I am still waiting. I tested when I was 2 days late but it was a BFN. As I've got older I've become less regular and I seem to go anywhere from 26 to 34 days.

Le sigh.

hopefulgum · 09/08/2013 00:02

Oh Diege that does sound like hell on earth. I am glad you are okay.

Nothing more to report from me.

I hope everyone else is fine.

Dh and I are thinking of doing a teacher exchange to the UK in 2015. Where would you suggest is a nice area to live and teach? We have heard horror stories about high schools in London, so somewhere in the country might be nice.

I am starting to look at a future that doesn't include another baby, but it still makes me a little bit sad to do soSad
Must dash, have to get the kids out of bed and ready for school.

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