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hopefulgum · 05/07/2013 11:54

Starting the new thread for you wonderful ladies before I fly off into the sunset.

May this thread bring us the happy news we've all been waiting for. Grin

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JBrd · 29/07/2013 13:49

Hello everyone, just quickly popping my head round the door

Not much to report - I'm still pregnant Smile But coming up to the point where both my mcs started to kick off, so feeling very twitchy Confused
I'm 6+5 today, still so early, and still worried it'll all go wrong again. I'm seeing the consultant and the mw this week, so at least that's good news. I've not made it to my booking apt in both my last pregnancies... Getting very superstitious.

Sorry for not name-checking, but really need to get on with work!

Hope everyone's OK!

hopefulgum · 29/07/2013 23:26

Good morning ladies!

Calibee that's an amazing weight loss! Well done. Want to give us some details of how you did it? Your DH will have trouble recognising youGrinI am guessing with such a huge weight loss you will need to purchase new clothes, perhaps a cute little underwear ensembleWink

Jbrd, I am glad your pregnancy is still ticking along. I completely understand your feeling twitchy. I hope the next few weeks pass trouble free.

Deige, how did your trip to the cinema go? You will need a lie down when you get in - you earnt it! Which movie did you see? I recently saw Dispicable Me 2, which was fun.

Not much going on here. Yesterday was my day off and I had a good going over the kitchen. Scrubbed it from top to bottom as it was pretty awful. Felt so good to have that done. It was also my first "fast day". I had to keep busy. I am trying the Michael Moseley "fast diet". It is supposed to contribute to a longer life, less chance of getting diabetes, cancer, hypertension (all of which are my heritage). Honestly though, I am doing it to move the 10 kilos I still need to lose to get into the healthy BMI range. However, if it seems to interfere with ovulation (I will find out next cycle) I will stop. The reading I have done on it is contradictory. I have read that it does no harm to fertility and in fact can enhance it, but also have read that whilst the body is experiencing "famine" it is unlikely you will be fertile. I don't consider the fast diet to be a "famine" as you eat normally for five days a week.I have only done one day, so we shall see how it goes. Hmm

How is everyone else going? Is anyone getting close to testing?

I am only 3 DPO. Sore Biscuit Biscuit 's but I seem to have them every cycle. Fertility Friend says if I were to get preggers this cycle, I would be due April 19. I have had three successful pregnancies that were due April/May, so I am hoping that it bodes well for me.

Off to rub my beautiful silver fertility statues I bought in Lombok. (Yes, I am completely bonkers!Confused)

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diege · 30/07/2013 09:06

Morning! Hold on in there jbrd - can understand your anxieties totally but it will help I'm sure to see the mw/consultant this week, if only to voice any anxieties you might have. Might they do an early scan?
Gum It was indeed Despicable Me 2 we saw Grin. I thought it was pretty good, although I did fall asleep for a few mins midway through Blush Was impressed that ds1 (age 4) sat through it all and seemed quite taken with the whole thing - a record for him! Re: the fasting diet, I wouldn;t say it would have an effect on ovulation. I know a little about nutrition, having some qualification in it years ago, and do remember reading that it takes more than we might imagine for dietary changes for Westerners to effect fertility (ie., prevent ovulation). Something about losing a (quite substantial) percentage of body mass which I don't think would necessarily happen with the plan you're on. Sounds quite tough though - any leeway for treats?
Have been up since 5,30 this morning and have been at my desk since 8.30...feel very sleepy due to staying up to watch documentary on the 'baby born in a concentration camp'...Why can that wide-awake seciond wind feeling you get late at night never extend to the morning??!!

Isabeller · 30/07/2013 15:44

What kind of diet do you have to follow notsoold? I am starting to feel anxious about the Glucose test tomorrow and just want to have a calmer idea of what I'll have to do if it did turn out positive for gestational diabetes. After seeing a dietician yesterday my brain is awash worries about podge induced problems.

You must be so looking forward to getting reacquainted with DH CalibeeWink

Good luck with the new regime hopeful, just before BFP I found out about and started the fast diet and I wouldn't have stopped except for all the strong advice not to diet in pregnancy. It was definitely starting to work and was something I could stick to despite my lack of regular routine. Unfortunately I discovered it too late to get my prepregnancy weight to a better level hence my present worries.

Do you think it might be possible to lose fat in pregnancy with a high nutrition restricted calorie diet diege?

Isabeller · 30/07/2013 15:45

Ps meant to say crossing fingers for you JBrd that the next few weeks - and months - pass smoothly xx

diege · 30/07/2013 17:27

Hi isabeller! To be honest the only eating 'regime' I would recommend in pregnancy would be Slimming World - it's recommended by Royal College of Midwives and focuses on low fat but generally quite volumous amount of food - treats allowed too! I have followed it between pregnancies and lost quite a lot of weight, and am also trying my best to follow it now (there are modifications for pregnant women). I'm not sure I'd recommend a calorie-restricted diet in pregnancy, but I do know women who have actually ended up lighter than pre-pregnancy/put on minimal weight in pregnancy with SW, and also lost body fat.
Good luck with the GI test! Had mine a few weeks back and all well, though did struggle a bit with the fasting!

hopefulgum · 31/07/2013 00:11

Good Morning ladies.

I am on my second fast day today and I think it might be a struggle. I have a blood test this morning (just routine to check cholesterol and blood sugar), so I can't even have a cup of tea. I could get through my fast day before with copious amounts of black tea. Also had a horrible night's sleep as I seem to have sciatica.The pain is awful, all down my left leg.It seems so silly to have it when I haven't done anything to cause it. It started as I was pushing the shopping trolley around the supermarketConfused So feeling tired is not a great way to do a fast, I always eat to compensate for tiredness, today will be tough.

To add to my woes, I also have to take DS to the doctor this morning as he hasn't been well for a while now. He has had a cough since the beginning of our holiday and now has intermittent fevers and headaches. I do hope it is nothing tropical and sinister like malaria, though I think malaria would give you constant fevers, wouldn't it? There I go catastrophising again. So it is another day off for me today, which means I have to sort out some lesson plans...bugger.

On the up side, I did have a nice temperature rise this morning.

I would like to take anti-inflammatories for the sciatica, but I recently read there needs to be a certain amount of inflammation for implantation, so I am afraid to take them in case it stuffs up implantation chances. I know it is a long shot, but I would like to give myself the best chance. SO I guess I will be taking paracetemol all day. the pain of sciatica is just so horrible. I wonder if a chiropractor could help me?

Oh dear, sorry this post is all about meSad

Isabeller, I know of some ladies who lost weight during pregnancy just by eating a sensible, balanced diet and leaving out junk. I always find that hard when pregnant due to the massive cravings and food aversions I have. How long did you try the "fast" diet for? Hopefully I will get a BFP shortly after starting it tooGrin

Right, I better think of something for my classes today!

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diege · 31/07/2013 08:39

Hi Gum! Hope you're feeling ok; quite a full-on day for you - sciatica is the worst Sad. Could you try codeine-based meds? They're fine in pregnancy (except at the very end) and seem to have a quite a good effect on moderate to severe pain (for me at least). Maybe you could have a quick word with the doc when taking ds?
28 weeks here today; always feels like a milestone! Have the dentists this morning which I get irrationally worried about, but am also taking dd3 so need to have a brave face for her sake Hmm

mozzarellamummy · 31/07/2013 08:45

gum sorry you're feeling so rubbish..I also had sciatica and couldn't sleep properly.. finally it stopped without any particular effort, so I hope it will be the same for you! And hope everything will be fine with DS too, please update us..

Isabeller when pregnant with dd1 I was slightly overweight and my skinny gynae pushed me to lose weight, after her birth I was 7 kg under my pre-pregnancy weight. I cut off all sweet stuff and reduced bread and pasta.. I tried to eat a good amount of meat even if I'm not a fan..and I ate huge amounts of melon and watermelon to keep me hydrated..
Now the weight has come back but that's another story.. I'd really like to lose one stone mainly to improve long term health.. I also started 5:2 diet but then stopped because worried about ovulation issues (actually I needed a good excuse to stop anyway!!)
I should be on my fertile days and my EWCM seems to have come back after a couple of months break..so I can't avoid stupidly raising my hopes.. However yesterday I was so tired that I started to worry if I ever manage to get pregnant I may not have the energy for raising properly another child .. my 2 yrs old is now rather energy consuming.. Confused.. Has any of you ever had such thoughts?

CaliBee · 31/07/2013 12:12

Morning all.
Sorry to hear you and ds both not feeling well hopeful..I hope all goes well at Dr's today.

is my sister had such severe hyperemesis during her pregnancy that she was half a stone lighter postnatally.

I confess to losing my weight using the cambridge diet...I said I would never do it again after piling it back on after losing £.5 st 3 years ago....but on reflection of course I will pile weight on if I eat the crap I do. This is a quick fix to give me a kick start...once DH home the healthy eating and exercise plan begin in ernest. I have tried the 5:2 plan but I'm ana impatient soul who needs to see fast results to get the umph to carry on.

Question for you ladies (bearing in mind no clomid this cycle and NO sex booo) I am 16dpo with a sustained temp shift following 2 pos opk's. Temp still up, mild cramps but no af yet...hmmmm. My Lp is usually 13 days one or two 14 dayers over the last year but never this long. Any ideas?? I do have some mild cramping, boobs are perhaps the teensy eensiest bit sore but nothing else.

jass43 · 31/07/2013 14:36

Mozarella, I am on holidays pretty much in the middle of nowhere, lots of beach, sunshine, playing in sand with my 4 and 8 yos, and I catch myself thinking a lot about my ability to grow through the early (first 6, I think ) years of childrearing. But it only gives me a relaxing holiday, back on the wagon in September, I guess. Meanwhile eating all the stuff I want, running occasionally, swimming and doing nothing. Also forgetting about Internet - but still came by to see all pregnancies progressing nicely. Every pregnant lady here adds to my happy mind nowadays, I have to say. And I bumped into school friend who has a first child aged 11mo, so really last minute decision to have some family, and She was in such a regretting mood about not having more. I said She still can, but she preferred to keep herself ready to the negative scenario, in case no new pregnancies. Realize every day more and more I am happy as I am......

Isabeller · 31/07/2013 22:10

Utterly knackering day at hospital but excellent results. Scan good, no gestational diabetes found, dietician approved modified 5:2. Flowers to all xx

hopefulgum · 31/07/2013 23:06

Hi lovely ladies. Thanks for your thoughts. I am fine really, just having a whinge yesterday.

It seems that the painkillers will do the trick, and I did resort to anti-inflammatories last night. I slept very well with no pain at all. And I am up this morning without pain too. Fingers crossed it is better (though I doubt it). I went for a long swim last night while DD was at netball training. My leg hurt a bit while I swam, but I was pain free afterwards for about an hour, so perhaps that helped?

Saw the doctor about DS (didn't even cross my mind to discuss my woes) and she said he has a very red throat and an upper respiratory tract infection. She didn't prescribe antibiotics, stating it was caused by a virus. But we are to keep an eye on him, particular the intermittent fevers as we have just returned from Lombok, and there's a chance of malaria. I don't think he has it, but we'll get him checked out asap if the fevers continue. I think I'll send him to school today and see how he goes.

Mozza, I often have those same thoughts when I am tired. But I had them when I was ttc DS too, and though there have been some tough days, dragging my arse around the place, you do manage and I still feel that it has been so worthwhile. He is almost 5 now and not a day goes by where I don't feel 100% grateful to have him in my life. I am so glad I badgered encouraged my DH to have a vasectomy reversal and to ttc my little boy. He's brought so much joy to our family. I suppose that is why I haven't given up ttc again. I just know in my heart that it would be wonderful for our family to have another little person join us.

Isabeller, I am so pleased to hear that all is wellGrin Please tell me about your modified 5:2, I'd love to hear about it.

I managed my second fast day quite well, though after swimming I did feel very hungry. I think I may have gone a bit over the 500 calories as I had a banana at the end of the day.But I don't feel bad about it, I did expend a bit of energy swimming a kilometer.I know on the diet they say not to factor that in, but I don't care. You have to do what works for you.

Calibee, I am curious about the Cambridge diet. I've never heard of it, but I will google it soon.It sounds like it definitely works.

Back to work today. I am feeling increasingly disorganised after having three days off in the last week and a half. I have no idea what I'll be teaching today. Flying by the seat of my pants I think. Then I am driving some of the netball girls to a nearby town for a game. It is going to be a long day, but at least I won't be fastingSmile

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diege · 01/08/2013 21:00

Hope the class went well gum - some of my best lectures are 'seat of the pants' ones Grin. Has the sciatica kept away? Hope ds is ok - sounds like quite a nasty virus.
Had consultant appointment today - all ok, though placenta's still low...consultant convinced it will move up by 34 weeks scan though Hmm. Baby fine though, measuring a week ahead and still head down...would be sod's law that the only one of my babies head down at 34 weeks will have a blasted placenta blocking the exit route Grin
Hope everyone is ok - the sun has made an very unwelcome and sneaky return here today: nearly 30 degrees!

hopefulgum · 02/08/2013 00:27

Hi Diege, classes went well, thankfully. You know I think it helps to have a relaxed,positive attitude. Things always seem to go well when I am feeling "cruisey". Actually, a funny thing happened. Whilst my year nine class were happily working away I was having a quick look at mumsnet at my desk (purely research for one of the topics Hmm) when the school psych stealthily appeared at my side (looking for a student), so she would have got an eyeful of what I was doing. Opps! Grin

DS seems okay - he went to kindy and made it through the day, so hopefully he'll continue to mend. He will be at daycare today, which he loves and was cross about missing it on Wednesday.

I took DD and friends to their netball game yesterday. Gosh, I had a headache after traveling 50 km with four teenage girls in the car. I should have put earplugs in.Anyway, the game went very well, they played the hardest team in their grade and only lost by 2 points. They work together as a team so well, it's lovely to watch.

I can't believe I actually slept in until 6:45 this morning. I almost never do.And usually I feel like jumping out of bed, but today I felt like I could have snuggled for a lot longer. The sciatica seems to be just an echo now - dull and hardly there. Which is miraculous because it was so uncomfortable. Fingers crossed it stays away.

I am glad to hear all is ok with baby. Are you feeling worried about the low lying placenta? I suppose in your shoes I would feel a bit concerned, but also hopeful that the consultant knows his stuff and the placenta will be out of the way by the time baby is ready to be born.

Hello to everyone else. I must get moving, after my big sleep in this morning, not much time to get ready for work. Confused

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diege · 02/08/2013 17:01

Hi gum! Totally agree about mental attitude really effecting how a teaching session goes. If I'm stressed/worried about something and can't put on a brave face it really does influence how the session goes. Have learnt from experience and try to be super positive when I go through the door; it's only IT fails that I really struggle with! Hope your session well today - sounds like you needed your sleep; maybe the hold catching up with you x
Re: placenta, I would be quite anxious if I had to have a section, purely based on the bad experience of one that I had with dc4. There's absolutely nothing I can do though that will effect the outcome, so trying to take some comfort from that...At least it would make childcare arrangements a little easier knowing when baby was going to be born!

TigerseyeMum · 04/08/2013 10:23

Hello, can I sneak onto this thread? I am 3 months off 40 but my DH is 41 now. We have been ttc for 3 years on and off, no NHS help in this part of the uk unfortunately :-( so I am having a lap and dye in September as I have severe endo (had it since teens).

Recently we stopped ttc as the scans showed that one ovary was embedded in my bowel (the scan doctor thought I'd had it removed!!!) and I've had a log of pain. The consultant is an endo specialist and has done bowel surgery before but I don't know if he's planning doing any with me or if he'll stick to the lap and dye.

I feel too nervous to try getting pregnant with an ovary stuck in my bowel, it hurts a bit and I imagine having a baby growing inside of me might hurt more. I could be wrong though.

I fluctuate between really wanting a baby and thinking it would be a crazy thing to do!!! My DH really wants children badly though, although we have been together 20 years and he used to say he wasn't bothered.

Anyway, that's me. I don't post here much but I lurk about a bit. I can't really talk to anyone irl so it's nice to bob on and off at times and catch up. Hope everyone's having a good Sunday. I gotta start work in a mo :-(

Isabeller · 04/08/2013 10:49

I only have a little experience with 5:2 hopeful.

I was on 5:2 for less than 3 months and it took several tries to manage 500 calories without feeling uncomfortably ravenous by the end of the day but I lost 10lbs which was my first genuine loss in over a year. For me the pattern of Monday and Wednesday 500 calories as close as possible and Friday 500-1000 most weeks meant I could handle unexpected or social events without losing the structure. I stopped as soon as my pregnancy was confirmed.

I found information about dieting and weight loss/restricted gain in pregnancy and pregnant women safely doing Ramadan fasting which made me think I could probably do something positive. The NHS dietician I saw is very up on current research and has a mission to help the obesely pregnant manage weight gain. She thinks dietary guidelines for overweight pregnant women could look very different in a few years.

What I'm trying, with her agreement, is restricting to 1000 calories on 'fasting' days and dividing it into 5 or 6 portions throughout the day instead of, as before, fasting completely until 3pm or later.

I am also paying very close attention to what I eat on the other days, logging everything on MFP and going for the best nutritional quality I can manage. Previously the fasting days reduced my interest in unhealthy food altogether but I was eating what I wanted on non fasting days without logging anything.

Sorry for being a bit long winded. Wish me luck Smile

Isabeller · 04/08/2013 10:58

Welcome Tigers Smile

TigerseyeMum · 04/08/2013 12:02

Thank you!

Feeling a bit odd today as AF is due tomorrow and I am grumpy, tired and with sore boobage. Definite sign!!!

JBrd · 04/08/2013 14:50

Ladies, a quick update from me. I had a reassurance scan this morning, and all they could see was an empty sac. No foetal pole, no heartbeat. Measuring 4 weeks, but I'm 7+4, and there is no doubt about my dates.

I am utterly crushed and heartbroken.
This is my third miscarriage in a row, and I don't know where I'll go from here.

Isabeller · 04/08/2013 15:12

There are no adequate words JBrd, so sad and thinking of you Sad

diege · 04/08/2013 17:45

Oh jbrd I'm devastated for you Sad That must have come as such a shock for you, I'm so so sorry xxxx

Rowgtfc72 · 04/08/2013 17:59

JBrd, so very sorry x (lurk on here and have had everything crossed for you)

isadorable · 04/08/2013 18:11

jBrd - I am so sad for you. So hard to deal with again. Take care and I hope you're getting lots of support irl.