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[hopefulgum]

Starting the new thread for you wonderful ladies before I fly off into the sunset.

May this thread bring us the happy news we've all been waiting for.

Oh Green I'm so so sorry. I really hope you get all the help and support you need.

Bless you Green, I'm so sorry you have gone through this. Don't feel bad about crying, there will be plenty more tears to come I'm sure so don't bottle anything up. I had one counselling session after losing my daughter and that really helped. I didn't feel I needed anymore but it was just nice to sit and cry and talk without feeling guilty.
Jass and Hopeful, sorry you are having parent troubles. I can't understand why anyone would not be interested in their grandchildren. It is them that are missing out on all the fun and excitement that children bring (most of the time!)
No major symptoms for me although I went to the loo last night and noticed a tiny blood spot in my knickers and then a really small bit when I wiped (sorry!) It's not af as I'm not due til 16th so hope it might be implantation. I've never had that before though so don't know why it would be. I was going to be good and wait to test but as I ov'd early I might test on Thursday because it's my work do and the wine will be flowing. I'll be 14dpo by then so might show up if positive......

Hi Green I've been wondering how you were.
It's good your miscarriage has completed without needing any intervention and that you could get referred for investigation. The gynaecologist sounds sympathetic though it must have been so traumatic sitting with the pregnant ladies for your scan. It's the same in our hospital, I don't know why they can't site the EPU in a different area.
You must be very strong and very brave, still continuing with family commitments and working while going through all this.
As Grizzer said, don't feel bad about crying, it's only natural. I never cried as much as in the weeks post miscarriage and even now it still feels quite raw sometimes. How is your DH?
There is definitely still hope, ttc in your 40's is not for the faint hearted but you certainly have the strength to keep going, hoping 2014 is your year xxx

Hi everyone,

So I've been lurking a bit on this thread, as I'm 40 now and TTC1. Just got AF so cycle 1 is done and dusted. This is my second time on MN as 6 maybe 7 years ago I was trying with my now exDH. We had major fertility issues, (my ex, rather than me), but we ended in divorce after we struggled to communicate through it all. It took time to deal with and find a new DP to try again with. I'm hoping I haven't left things too late, but life deals strange hands to us, and we just have to roll with it all, I guess.

Last time round, I did OPKs and temped, but haven't really been keeping track of my cycles and stuff since then til now. I was a bit of a nightmare cycle 1 with all the symptom spotting...I had everything including nosebleeds. So now making a list of things to ignore in the future.

Grizzler - fx for you that the spot was implantation. Good luck!

Green, really good you escaped eprc, that procedure wastes more time in recovery before you can ttc again, and risks to corrupt your uterine neck.
And i seriously share your view that mc should not be treated anywhere near pregnancy bliss.

(It is, bthw, were i visit. They offer no separate entrance, corridor or waiting room. you sit among the bumps and babies, and it usually takes at least an hour to be seen. I asked once could they not be a bit more sympathetic, and they actually were astonished i should even ask. got a lecture about "thats life". Care is good though, compared to most places here, so cannot change. but it means i now do not visit doctor if i find myself pg, or when i start mc neither. i can do and do it all by myself, they can offer 0help and a bit more knowledge about hcg levels or sac visible-not visible does not help me that much. i will only go if i guess i have ectopic or i will mot miscarriy by week 8-9. That is what they do with their damn insensitivity).

welcome Owlie!

grizzer, implantation bleed exists but is far less common than we hope it is, I am afraid! But 14dpo for testing is showing you have really a lot of patience. i am 12dpo and have spent last 3 days testing. negative and now spotting. feeling OKish though, lots of christmas-related drinking going on and have now joined the festivities with vengeance!

my daughter announced she will marry end of July next year. life is moving on......

Hello everyone.

Green, so sorry about the miscarriage. I am glad that it has gone smoothly, but I do understand how much it hurts. I did not know crying until I had a miscarriage. There is nothing that can prepare you for that kind of heartbreak. It is so awful to put you with the pregnant ladies. I had the same experience. There is no EPU where I live, it is everyone in together. At least when I went into the hospital for the ERPC they didn't put me on the maternity ward, which is what happened to one of my friends years ago.

Grizzer, ooh, exciting, I hope that it was indeed implantation bleeding.

Jass, sorry it isn't your month. But as you say, now you can enjoy the festivities. Congratulations on your daughter getting married! Perhaps you will be pregnant for that party?

Hi LittleOwlie, I hope ttc is quick and easy for you.

Hello Irish. How's the pregnancy progressing, how are you feeling? It must be a huge relief to be past the first trimester. You give me hope, as you too had three miscarriages, and now you are pregnant and past the first trimester.

As for me, not much to report. I was a bit this morning as the first temperature I took was quite low and I am sure I have ovulated. So I took it again from the other side and it was a reasonable post O temp. I have no idea why the first one was low. Gosh I hope I am not having an annovulatory cycle, but I suppose it has to happen at some point, so far I seem to have ovulated every month for the last twenty months (since the last miscarriage). I guess time will tell. Luckily it is a madly busy time, so I won't be agonising over symptoms too much.

Green...so sorryfor you. I was crying all the time for weeks..xxxxx

Hopeful...sorry about your parents. My mum is wonderful but my dad is very demanding and controlling , trying to run our lives from Brazil! Never asks about dcs and always complaning! Xxxx to you!

Irish nice to hear from you! I hope you are enjoying your pg!

I am normally lurking but saw my mw in the supermarket and started talking. I mentioned about ttc for us older ladies and she said to ke that is harder but nothing as bad as the charts says and that they see routinely 46s years old going throughout pg with healthy babies as result.she mentioned another mw that had her last at 45 after remarrying...
So hopefor us!!! Xxxx
Sorry I never contribute to the thread and welcome to all newbies!

Green cry as much as you want.. there's no way to avoid grief and sorrow,you just have to go trough it and even if now it seems impossible.. it will be less raw and at times you will find yourself smiling again..
After my TFMR at 24 weeks I also cried non stop and I would never have Thought I could cry so much and feel so desperate... even if it's such an isolating experience, I found comfort in Speaking to some Friends who were there to Listen... it's very personal but if you feel it could help, go for it!
sending you hugs!

Green That is just awful, your EPU really should know better than this. When I had my first mc, I was examined by a very obviously pregnant doctor, and I also thought 'Honestly?! FFS!' It's the last thing that you want rubbed in your face.
Do cry! It is all part of the grieving process. Hormones are on a rollercoaster, and emotions are so raw. Be kind to yourself
Could your EPU not refer you to the recurrent miscarriage clinic? Mine did that for me, I didn't have to go back to my GP (I find that GPs in general are really not very clued up on fertility issues, I think by now I now more than the ones I have seen). It might speed things up, too.

I think I might have overdosed on Vitamin B6 today... I've been taking it for a couple of weeks to see if it might help to increase my cycle length. Not sure if it was due to this, but my last cycle went up to 28 days (from 25-26 days), so quite happy with that.
But I forgot to take the tablets yesterday morning, so took them late last night instead. And again as usual this morning. Started to feel yuck while driving to work and got really bad stomach cramps, and then I was sick when I got to work . Apparently, nausea and stomach cramps are associated with Vit B6 overdose... Thing is that I have not had any problems so far, so I'm thinking (hoping) that the timing was not right and that I need to space out the doses properly. That'll teach me for self-medicating...

Oh, Yes Jbrd, I have had that happen with vitamins too. If I take them on an empty stomach I feel very sick. It is good that it has affected your luteal phase in a positive way,though.

Hello notsoold, that is very comforting to hear. I am sure women in their forties can and do have babies, but it isn't an easy journey. Unfortunately, for some of us the road holds many bumps, including losses and a long time waiting. But, I am eternally hopeful.

I had a good temperature this morning, and for some reason when I put it into Fertility Friend it changed from me having ovulated when I thought I did,to not ovulating at all. I really don't understand it because there is a clear thermal shiftSo I manually overrode it, and still I am puzzled.It is here if you want to have a look.

I am having a day off today for "urgent private business". I have nothing urgent going on, but these personal leave days (we are entitled to three a year) don't roll over to next year, so I figured I might as well take one. And it means I can take DS to school and help him with some Christmas decorations. I also have acupuncture this afternoon, which will be lovely, and I'll squeeze a swim in too - it will be the perfect day!

Hope you had a good day gum, it sounds very relaxing (even if it's not urgent why not take the time if you can,you deserve it!).
I agree with you manually overriding your chart,I can't see why FF would have changed your ovulation day.
I'm feeling ok, thank you for asking,the usual pregnancy ailments like varicose veins,heart burn etc but I'm really not complaining,I feel very blessed !
Nice to hear from you notsoold,how is little Joe?
I would like to say I'm enjoying my pregnancy, I still feel very paranoid about everything and almost as if it's too good to be true so I can't quite relax!

However I had my anomaly scan today and all was well,baby was bouncing around and developing normally. We didn't find out the sex though it was tempting but DH would prefer to wait. We didn't know with any of the others.
I've been put at 21 weeks today and have been told due to advanced maternal age(!!!!) I will be induced close to term rather than being allowed to go over because of the increased risk of stillbirth. I go back for another scan to check growth in Feb and will have several more consultant visits so at least I feel they are monitoring things.
How are things with you Diege?
Welcome to the thread LittleOwlie ,you're a relative spring chicken compared to oldies like me,I'm 45 now and will be 46 by my EDD,there's always hope!
Jass ,congrats on your daughter's engagement,how old is she?
Grizzer have you tested yet?
Hi to JBrd ,Mozza and everyone else.
Thinking of you green x

Good to hear Irish all is going well. It is indeed benchmark that we have you and others delivering around 46. just shy of 44, i feel i have time thanks to you! My daughter is 25, since you asked, so i really hope for some grandchildren, preferable in 2years ' time when i am scheduled to return to homeland permanently! meanwhile, i keep trying for that elusive sticky baby myself, but feel hopeless - my period is so weird this time that it can not be a good thing.....

Great to hear it is all going so well Irish. Hi everyone else.

Hi everyone, I tested yesterday afternoon which I know is not the best time but I held on for a few hours before which I thought might help. Not even a hint of a line though so had a few glasses of bubbly at last night's work do! I'm not out yet as not due AF til 16th but thought there was a small chance of a positive result as I ov'd early. Getting weird pressure feelings in abdomen every now & again but no symptoms otherwise. I'm going to wait until AF is late now so fingers crossed. I have pelvic scan t

Sorry, I'm on my phone & fat thumb pressing all the wrong buttons!
I have scan tomorrow to look for cysts on ovaries. If by some miracle I was pg nothing would be seen yet would it?

AF arrived this morning. Next ov I'll probably be at my mums with brother, sister in law & niece & nephew. Prob have dd in the same room too. Not great for dtd! Hope it's not a squeaky bed!

Sorry for AF, grizzer. and lets hope for suitsble bed/mattress bhild for next dtd round. God, I am tired of dtd - weird, I remember i used to do it anyway, not depending on OPKs .......But now we have a clear famine/feast cycle....

Ha ha we're the same Jass. Fortunately dh hasn't seemed to pick up on the fact that I pull out all the seduction techniques for a week & then can't be bothered for the rest of the time!!

Hello to all.
Once again its been awhile since my last post. I do pop on every couple of days to catch up with all your news.
I must just mention green and send big comiserating hugs your way.
grizzer and jass had to giggle at the last couple of posts. I used to be a sex-every-day kind of girl but that seems to have gone by the by since we moved over to NI. DH is usually shattered and I just cant find the oomph.
So its been a year since my bfp. I'm feeling it. I cant get home for xmas as the army ballsed up DH's last 2 months wages,leaving us very short. It will be the first year in their lives that I've not been with dc's :(. All in all feeling a little down.
gum i did read that you had decided against the clomid.....but please feel free to ask any questions you may have. I will help if I can.
I'm currently on cd 15 of my clomid cycle with no imminent signs of the big O. We should be. Receiving an appointment soon for dh's SA results....I may ask for some monitoring.

calibee, sorry for Christmas. No older kids for christmas here neither. renovations ongoing in my estonian home, so am taking the family to Courchevel for ski instead, but the grown -up kids cannot come. i have bought tickets for easter to visit home then, hoping badly my home will be renovated by then - and if not, then well on the way to be finalised.

Grizzer, my husband has picked up on the fact that we only dtd with enthusiasm from my side on a certain week. i said it is to be expected - my body knows when there is a fertile window and acts accordingly. the rest of the month it does not send these signals :-) So, not my fault, just hormones!

Hello all, may I join you? I've been TTC #2 for 12 months and only just now admitting to myself that I need some MN support. I'm 40 AND A HALF! Regular 28 day cycle and got ridiculously excited last month that I was 2 days late. Feeling very silly now ... I have NC'd.

Hi everyone, marking my place. I popped on this morning, clicked "threads I'm on" and nothing came up!Clearly, I have been away for too long.

I have nothing to report, hence not posting.

It is good to hear from you Calibee. I decided against the clomid as I feel my body is still ovulating on its own. Perhaps I am not feeling desperate enough, despite month after month of nothing. I don't know. I still have the drugs, and may still use them sometime.

I am thinking I will go visit my female GP again this summer (when I have the time and patience to wait in her waiting room) and maybe have some bloods done again, to see where my hormones are at. Perhaps that will be all it takes to finally convince me to give up the fight. I am pretty sure I won't be getting my Christmas BFP, and I am so sick of trying. I still want the THB, so I do keep trying, but I am getting very tired of the whole thing.
I am amazed that my DH hasn't picked up the "feast and famine" nature of our sex life. He is obviously just so grateful he doesn't say anything!

My Christmas is going to be very busy, entertaining DH's whole extended family (blimey!) so it is probably just as well that I am not preggers. Still, I'd take it if I could. It would still be the perfect Christmas gift for me!

Welcome, Jollyjolly, you will find a wealth of support and wisdom on this thread.

Welcome Jolly this is my first month on this thread and it does really help. Don't feel silly, I convince myself I'm pregnant about 2 days before af is due every month! Hit me harder than usual this month for some reason. Not helped by dh coming home after a drunken night out and announcing his friend's wife is pregnant for the third time and then, instead of noting my lack of enthusiasm (just couldn't summon it up as I'd just come on) he kept telling me every 10 minutes or so! To top it all he then switched to some crappy channel on the tv and watched the birth scene in Only Fools and Horses. Soooooo not funny!! I had a good cry in the shower and feel much better today!!
Hopeful I keep thinking maybe I should stop as it seems to be stressing me out too much but I think I'll try for a few more months. Maybe we'll all be so busy over Christmas we won't even think about it and we'll all be preggars in January!!

hopeful it disappeared from my thread list too.

Tested on friday bfn - wasn't expecting a bfp if I'm honest but am surprised at how I felt

Sending good wishes to you all x

Thankyou hopefulgum, thankyou Grizzer! I spoke with my doc last month who recommended 'regular' sex throughout the month rather than just on 'feast week' (as it were!) TBH I tried it one month and was so exhausted- I'm not sure how it can really help either if you're only really fertile for a couple of days around when the stick tells you and then not after your temps rise ...