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[hopefulgum]

Starting the new thread for you wonderful ladies before I fly off into the sunset.

May this thread bring us the happy news we've all been waiting for.

London many congratulations, you must be so excited!
Green Good to see you - I like the new thread motto Sounds like you have done your best for this month, and with the ivf lined up you are certainly giving it your all xxx
Well, placenta is most certainly NOT behaving itself. Still low, and if anything even lower, now covering cervical os and less than 2cm from cervix. Baby's head is also right above it...So, almost definite section for me; will confirm after consultant appointment on Thursday. Feeling irrationally disappointed if I'm honest, as if I'm missing out the key stage of the pregnancy - I'm sure I'll feel brighter in a day or two, and hardly a concern for most of us on a ttc thread either and baby following growth curve, slowing down slightly - 3646g today!

I , think that works out at about 8ib 3oz (37 wks) , so possibly tipping 9 pounds by 39 weeks?

Sorry London, I didn't see your message earlier when I replied to Diege. congratulations! How wonderful for you.

Diege, I am sorry the placenta isn't behaving. Like you I would feel the same way, labour is all part of the process, but in the end, you and baby will be safe,and that's really what matters. A 9 pounder, 'eh! I bet he will be a good feeder!

Hello greenlizard. Your marathon of shagging is amazing! I hope you will be rewarded with a bfp and baby, but if not, you have the reassurance of the IVF coming up.

Irish, come and tell us how your scan went today.

Swimming lessons went well yesterday. The kids had a great time, I swam my 50 laps, and we came home tired and happy.

Warning - don't read on if you don't want to hear my venting about ttc...

My spotting hasn't yet turned into AF. And my temperature is still up. Unfortunately that means I am being irrationally hopeful.Here's my chart, if you want to analyse it I also had a dream this morning where I was shopping in the supermarket, with a baby girl. However, she wasn't my daughter and I don't who she belonged to, but I was looking after her. It has just brought home that the baby isn't mine and I don't know that there ever will be one for me.

It has been 18 cycles of trying since my last miscarriage. I have to admit after another BFN this morning I have had a little cry. I know it sounds wrong to say it isn't fair, because I have 5 beautiful healthy children already. But right now it doesn't feel very fair, after the hard work of ttc month after month for so long.

It is funny - DS is watching "Yo Gabba Gabba" behind me and they are singing a song " Keep trying, keep trying, don't give up, don't stop..." Ah geeze, that's all I need!

Congratulations to London and best of luck for Green first for bfp and if that provides elusive, then for IVF.

Af nearly gone here, but it is behaving weirdly, as always after Chem. need patience, I guess. But am seriously short of it......
Shaggaton does not look fun as well, were it to bein soon. But maybe the OV will be a bit later in his cycle.

Calibee, hope you are not too bored - feeling rested and relaxed is good, but I guess at one point it gets a bit lonely. Lets hope anBFP would help:-)

I hope Morien is doing well, have not heard from her long time now.
Hopefulgum, I also still have hope for you, if AF is not properly here.

I went to Vienna for opera performance this week, was great relaxation, opera, then Lantmann cafe etc.... But it did not make me feel I am better off without a baby in a tow. I hoped it would.....

Thank you jass...and yes a bfp would help. I've had a few days of trying to convince myself that the negatives of a baby outway the positive. Who am I trying to kid????
green lovely to hear from you....fingers crossed for a bfp in a few days time.
hopeful i can always physically feel your feeling when you write.....probably because I absolutely understand them.

I'm loving the motto too....i'm going to keep it in mind.

diege that must be disappointing re naughty placenta. I guess try to focus on the positive....you are nearing the end of this part of the journey

irish hoping all is good with you and jbrd ...are all your tests done now?

I'm on about cd64 now( losing count) and into another course of provera. Blood taken yesterday so will be interesting to see what they say.

I was awake at silly-o-clock this morning with a pounding headache. DH has "another" cold....and boy do I know about it. So rather than lie and listen to his snortling I am wrapped in my teddy-bear blanket on the sofa catching up with saved episodes of The Midwives and Downton Abbey. Its howling wind and rain outside and I think i may just stay put for awhile yet :)

Hi Cali and Jass.

Just to make life interesting, but also bloody , I peed on a stick when I got in after swimming today and I got a friggin second line. Trouble is, it doesn't look quite right and I am going to have try to pretend it didn't happen. It is pink, but the dye seems to be awash over the whole test.

I'll pop a pic into my profile. I am pretty sure this is just a dud,sent to try my patience, but I still don't have Af, and temp was reasonable this am.

However, my boobs aren't even a wee bit sore and I just don't believe it.

Have a look and tell me to stop being stupid.

The image will be tiny. You can also see it here

Yes, too, too tiny on my profile. Don't even bother.

Bloody hell gum that's a clear positive on the link - I saw the second line straight away without any squinting or screen adjusting!!!! I know what you are saying re: not feeling hopeful etc, but there is clearly something going on, which I understand may be both massively exciting but also extremely stressful at the same time. Keep us updated!
Jass sounds very glam your opera evening in Vienna! Can see why a shaggathon wouldn't be too appealing just now - as you say, maybe a few more weeks, but understand how stressful the whole thing is for you
Calibee I'd stay exactly where you are if I were you - hope the headache clears soon - do you have strong meds? - and that dh's man flu is bearable (for you!)
Still feeling a bit bleughh about the section, but at the same time I know it is the only option and that both myself and baby could die if an attempted vaginal delivery was attempted. The prize will be worth it and I can't wait now to see my not so little baby boy. Hope it's ok posting about imminent babies etc on here - I remember being quite cheered to read positive stories, but please tell me to tone it down if not!

Woah there hopeful that looks like a line to me! Can you get hold of a FRER and use FMU tomorrow????

Hello Ladies,

I really hope you don't mind me temporarily gate-crashing your thread but I just wanted to send huge congratulations to London on her BFP.

I shall be keeping all my fingers and toes crossed for you London and I can totally understand your anxiety at this stage.

You were an amazing support to me when I was embarking on ttc no. 2 after a miscarriage and I've thought of you often. Thank you

Oh thanks for the replies. Really, really don't want to get excited at this stage. How on earth can I get a totally white BFN this morning, then this? Is it even possible? Green, I won't be able to get my hands onto a FRER til the afternoon, and even then it will be tricky as I will have DD and DS with me. I also have acupuncture tomorrow afternoon, so I want to have an idea before she shoves the needles in. Why would the breast tenderness evaporate if it is a BFP? I have 100's of internet strips, so I'll do another in the morning. Also, the temperature should give me a heads up in the morning too.
This is really a bit cruel if that's a pretend BFP. Surely the Gods are not that unkind

Gum were the 2 tests (the bfn and the bfp) the same brand/batch? I was reading on another thread (where someone got a bfn and a bfp with the same urine sample and same brand of test) that if the hcg level is just enough to show a pregnancy it could be the case the the bfn stick had slightly lower levels of dye, if that makes sense? It's a tricky position you're in - is it better to have the knowledge that something did happen briefly, but then have a bfn/af next day, or better not to have had any hope at all? Also if your spotting is implantation then you would expect, at the very best, only a shadow of a line now, if anything at all. You are so strong and will deal with whatever the outcome is, but I am hoping and praying that this is it for you - we would be bump buddies for about 13 days
Have the hairdresser coming at 2pm for a 4hr appointment . I'm going lighter for my base colour (the grey is getting too hard to cover) and then will have a mixture of lowlights and highlights. Just hope nothing happens baby-wise during - I'll be damned if I'm washing out foils too early - hospital would have to rinse it off for me!

hopeful how bloody well exciting. I just read about your possible line on my phone and have fired up the computer (still sooo damn slow) to take a peek at your test. Alas the pic is so small all I can see is a blurrr. Please please take another test and let us know.
Waiting with baited breath.................

Calibee I have a thread over at fertility friend and if you scroll down I have put a better picture on there.

The thread is here

it is now past my bedtime, so I am going to snuggle down with P.D.James and get my mind off it.

Hopefulgum - hi there, I just had a peak at the picture, and I am sorry to say, that I have had a couple of ones like this in the past, where it looks like a positive, but there is this blur of the dye instead of clear cut edges to the positive. It has always proven to be a negative result with me, a dodgy test. I had one particular batch of the internet cheapies where several of them gave this wierd misleading result. Obviously you are testing early and it could yet be the cycle that finally brings the dream, so I hope I am not bringing a down mood on your hope. I just wanted to let you know my experience of this result.

Your chart looks good, so there is still a good chance from this month!

Hopeful, I couldn't enter the page on fertility friend but I'm hopeful it's a true BFP for you.. I also had a feeling this was your month! .. and you look so young on the photos on your profile.. are you really sure you're 46????
If I go on with being a teacher, I'm afraid all my black hairs will turn white soon.. they're driving me crazy.. ..

Thanks Galwaygal _ that's exactly what I thought. Part of me wanted it to be a real BFP, but the rational part of me knows it is not a BFP.

I had a big temperature drop this morning (though still not under coverline) and a clearly negative HPT. I think AF will show soon. And it is okay, because I don't actually feel pregnant. I have always felt it,with all my pregnancies, in the past, not just from symptoms, there was something else, and I certainly don't feel it now.

Thanks, mozzarella for the compliment about my picture. In actual fact, that photo does make me look young, I find that the selfies taken from the computer camera are quite flattering. I don't look anything like that in real life,and I can assure you, I have a tonne of grey hair which I dye! In fact, once AF turns up, I will be getting the roots touched up again. BNot to mention wrinkles! The Australian sun is pretty harsh on the skin and I've been enjoying it for a long time now!

Sorry to hear that the students are driving you crazy. I hope it gets better for you.

Good evening, ladies! Quick hello from me, I shouldn't be on here, I need to pack! Off to Vienna tomorrow for a long weekend... Hope it'll be nice - it's a lovely city, but I'm going with my family, which could be a hit-and-miss. Fingers crossed we'll manage to have a good time. DH is staying home with DS, so it'll be adults-only.
I do need a break, work has been completely mental. I couldn't go away at a worse time, but it was booked a long time ago, so nothing I can do

Nothing really to report on the ttc front here - I'm waiting for my appointment with the consultant in November, to go over everything. Currently thinking if I should pay to get the AMH test done - it's not part of the NHS tests for recurring mc, but it might be useful to know what my eggs are like. I'm also a bit because the NHS tests did not include the CD21 blood test, they only wanted the CD2-5 one. Apparently, that's a new thing, a friend of mine had both for her mc just a few months ago, at the same hospital. CD21 will be next Wednesday for me, so I really need to make up my mind and call the private clinic tomorrow...
Other than that, I'm having a break from ttc, well and truly. Which is nice, I am really focussed on other things to take my mind off, but at the same time, I'm nervous about what will happen...

Anyway, waving to you all, will check back with everyone properly when I'm back in the country next week!

PS: gum - have you tested again?!? I will be checking this thread on the train to the airport tomorrow... I have to say I'm in the can't-see-a-line camp, but would be more than delighted to be proven wrong

Diege I hope you are ok and coming to terms with the csection! When is it??? xxx

gum as always I read your posts and root for you. As we have said before ttc seems to be a tiring and sometimes heartbreaking business and I always have admired your strength. I hope that today you find out the answer for this month (and it is a BFP !)xxx

Jbrd lovely to hear from you!!! have a wonderful trip and I might be inclined to pay privately (if possible ) for the extra test..xxx

Hello to London,Jass,Irish,Caibee, Isabeller, greenlizard,Mozzarella !!!

Gum what a rollarcoaster... I really hope that bfp is just around the corner with the next test, but would probably feel the same as you. The next or so (temp-wise) will be revealing. Are you still spotting?
jbrd it really sounds like you deserve that break! Have a wonderful time, and fingers crossed your up-coming appointment is helpful. It does seem that there's a lot of variability in what's done test-wise, and where.
notsoold Hi! Think you're just a day or so behind me? How are you feeling? Feeling ok about section now - seeing consultant this afternoon so will try and make sure I get all my questions out. My sister's a mw and she says that a trial of labour can sometimes place with placenta praevia, but that in her prof opinion she would never chance it...In a way I hope the consultant gives me absolutely no options as that way I'll get used to the idea far quicker. Also wondering when the section might be - had thought 39 wks but others are given 38 weeks as date which would mean next week - eeek, too soon!!!!

Hello everyone. I haven't posted for a while as was getting a bit disheartened with the whole TTC business but have been keeping up to date with you all.

Big congrats to all those who have got a bfp recently - I am so pleased for you all. Gum, I have everything crossed for you too!
Jbird - hope you have a lovely break.

It is my birthday today and my period is 2 days late. I also have a funny taste in my mouth but I am trying not to get my hopes up as I am sure AF is just round the corner.

2minds, if you are two days late, why haven't you tested??! It sounds like you could get good news.Keep us posted.

Well, it is as I thought. AF started this morning. It's a relief in some ways, but,you know, I would have been much happier with a proper BFP. I think my Estrogen is low, which wouldn't be surprising at my age, so I think I will take the red clover tablets before ovulation and see if that helps. My periods are light and short, which means the lining is probably thin, and I really believe that I am conceiving but not able to implant properly. I could be wrong, but I just think that the two ERPC's I had may have caused some damage and the lining isn't thick enough.And lower estrogen will cause a thin lining. That's my theory. I have discussed it with the doctor but she wasn't much help, and it seems to me she really doesn't know how to deal with it and wants to send me to a fertility clinic. But how on earth can I go there when my DH is not on board 100%? I just have to go the natural route and hope it works. I still have the clomid in the cupboard, but I know it causes a lack of CM and thin lining, so it wouldn't really help me would it? I seem to be ovulating (according to temperatures, I have no real proof) so I don't think clomid is the answer.

I want to be positive, but the truth is, I am feeling sad about my dream slipping away.

How are you feeling notsoold? You must be getting very excited about meeting your LO.

Deige, you might have that baby very soon! They usually do C-sections at 38 weeks. So exciting that your LO will be here soon.

Jbrd, I hope you have a lovely trip.

Gm, sorry for AF. Lining issues can be caused by wrong ratio of estrogen/progesterone, and orally it is the low progesterone what moves the ratio off. So, at our age, even soy products are not suggested for fertility diet, for the fear of pushing estrogen levels up, and causing the wrong ratio. On the other hand, if you plan to use only natural supplements, trying whatever might be worth it, no doctor will know exactly what goes on with you. They simply do not, so maybe you are not so missing out on fertility docs and all this action. I feel much better now that I do not run to doc for every chemical or early loss. I only keep my progesterone and pred supplements n hand and thats it. It feels lower stress, a chemical feels nothing really these days.
I hope the natural way works for the both of us.
I am worried we have not heard from our diffed people, Irish, mozzarella , even Morien. Hope they are us forgetting us in their happiness and all is still going well for all!

Jbrd, hope you like Vienna as I did. It surely is a nice, clean, spacey town of not too big proportions!

2minds, it has to be bfp. Please come and tell us it was:-)

Gum, I'm sorry AF got you again. I had a dream last night (having not checked in for a couple of days) that you do eventually get your THB, fingers crossed for next month.

Deige, have you got a date, and your head round needing a section yet?

Irish, is everything ok? Let us know.

Green, good to hear from you, all that shagging must have been exhausting, I hope you don't need the IVF.

Jbrd, Vienna sounds lovely, enjoy the break.

Jass, sorry to see you've had yet another chemical, I hope you're ok.

Hi calibee, 2minds, notsoold. Congratulations london.

I'm trying to type 1 handed as every time I put DD2 down today, she wakes and cries, but is very comfortable on me. Also the keyboard isn't always responding so that's slowing me down too. We are doing ok, we went away overnight on Saturday which worked well, DH is interacting with her more. We still need to talk but by the time we get DD1 in bed and LO asleep in the evenings, we are both too tired, but I'm going to have to brave it I think. Also DD2 is still nameless, despite being a month old (yes really!) and DH has a firm idea I'm not keen on, but she needs a name soon cos a) I've had a stern letter from the register office and b) we're hoping to go abroad at half term so she'll need a passport. Definitely a debate/argument for the weekend. I may wander over and post in baby names for inspiration.

Have a lovely weekend everyone.

Hi everyone!
Sorry for not posting for a while, so much goes on on the thread it's hard to catch up and respond to people if you miss a few days!
Gum sorry about AF, especially when your hopes were raised this month too.
Diege looks like your little one could be here very soon, exciting! It will be easier when you have a definite date and plan.
JBrd hope you have a lovely break and can switch off from work and come back feeling relaxed and refreshed. I had progesterone tested on 7 and 10 dpo on the NHS last year but had my AMH levels checked privately. It was when I was considering getting a Duofertility monitor and the people who developed and supply it , Cambridge Fertility, suggested it before we decided re ttc or not after my first MC. I sent off for the blood kit from them online (think it was about £50), it came in the post, I brought it to my nurse at the GP surgery who took the sample, I sent it off in the post and the results came directly back to me. It was very quick and straight forward. I think they also do progesterone testing.Might be worth a google?
CaliBee it must be difficult living in a different country to your DC. Will you go back over when your new grandchild is born? It's tough your DH being post abroad too, hope by then you have your LO to keep you company when he goes.
Green great that your cycle is getting back to normal again!
Sparkly good to hear you're doing well, even the fact your DH has strong views on a name shows he cares about her! Hope you can make a decision soon and get her passport sorted out.
Jass I certainly haven't forgotten about this thread,I keep checking even when I'm not posting! My happiness is still tinged with a lot of apprehension but on a positive, my private scan this week went well . Baby looked happy,wriggling around, measuring correctly for dates.We could see little toes on one foot, incredible. The sonographer could see a yolk sac this time and has measured the area of haematoma exactly so when I go back there next week we'll know if it's better or worse. My NHS routine 12 week scan isn't until 16th Oct( well it'll be 12.5weeks). I'll breathe a big sigh of relief if everything's ok at that stage!
Happy Birthday 2minds,sounds promising, POAS and let us know!